Every so often I'll think of some crazy lawyering potential in the rules or an upgrade, but I usually just decide to ignore it. Or I'll search it here and find my answer, but i didn't know how to search this.

So, for OEs, doe you have to reroll all the dice at the same time, or can you roll them individually? Before you call me crazy, hear me out.

This step occurs during the modify step, at the same time as adding dice. So if you reroll before adding a black die via any multitude of means (let's say CF), can you still reroll that CFed die? I would think the answer is yes in this scenario (though I don't know why you wouldn't just add the die first and then reroll). However, let's say I'm fishing for crits with 3 black die, but I roll a blank, hit, hit. I choose to reroll with OE a blank and hit, to get hit, hit. I still haven't rerolled that third die. Can I reroll that third die using the same upgrade card as it is still during the same timing used to reroll the first 2 die?

All at the same time.

• A “while” effect can be resolved during the specified

event and cannot occur again during that instance of the

event.

While attacking, you may reroll any number of your black dice.

Ordnance Experts can be broken down to:

"Pick as many dice as you want to reroll right now. But you can only do that once."

Essentially, the "While" stops you from doing it multiple times in one attack. Re-Rolling one dice at a time, would include effectively triggering the reroll multiple times in one roll.

However, Dice themselves can be rerolled many times from many sources There is no "a reroll cannot be rerolled" restriction - quite the opposite.

So you can reroll them all one at a time... But only the first one.

In the case of your question, add CD first, then pick what you want to reroll. If you OE first then you don't get the reroll on the CF, barring other reroll effects.

With all effects that have identical timing, you choose the timing in which they resolve.

Let us consider this Hypothetical Ship and Situation:

The Ship has (and declared it will use):
Concentrate Fire Dial

Concentrate Fire Token

Quad Turbolaser Batteries

Ordnance Experts
Darth Vader

It throws 3 Reds and 3 Blacks.

its initial roll is Blank, Blank, Hit , Hit, Blank, Hit/Crit

At which point, it decides to Reroll using its Concentrate Fire Token. rerolling a Red. That Red comes up Blank

Then the ship decides to add a Die with its concentrate Fire Dial, adding a Red, because it really really wants, and gets, an ACC to trigger Quad Laser Turrets. Which do.

Which means now the Ship has ACC, ACC, BLANK, BLANK HIT, Hit, Blank, Hit/Crit

It decides to then spend an ACC to be able to lock down the Enemy Brace Token. Which it does. At which point, it decides it doesn't need any more accs... So having to reroll the Reds anyway, it throws the ACC, BLANK, BLANK, BLANK with Darth Vader...

Let's say it comes up now with HIT, HIT, DOUBLE HIT, HIT , HIT, HIT, HIT/CRIT

And then decides, with Ordnance Experts, to go all out.... Rerolling those two HITS to fish for more HIT/Crits.

All totally legal.

I would think the answer is yes in this scenario (though I don't know why you wouldn't just add the die first and then reroll).

I run into this all the time. Let me tell you why you might not want to add the CF die:

I have close side arcs on two Raiders on my OE/APT MC30. I'm trying to pop them both, and I have a CF dial. I roll out my first arc and roll hits on everything but no crits. I really need that APT to proc to kill this Raider; if I reroll now, I have about a 58% chance of proccing it. If I add my CF black and then reroll the whole mess, I have a 76% chance to proc it here, but that means my overall chances of proccing on the other side drop from 90% to 82%.

So I have to evaluate not only the likelihood of getting that roll, but which target is more important to me. If I really need to kill the second one, I might wait to add the CF until I attack on that side. I also have to evaluate which CF gives me a higher incremental increase to my chances of getting the APT crit (the first attack), and weigh that against the relative value of killing one target vs the other.

All at the same time.

• A “while” effect can be resolved during the specifiedevent and cannot occur again during that instance of theevent.

While attacking, you may reroll any number of your black dice.

I need to start some daily devotions in the rule book. Can't believe I'm still missing things like that (I suppose this is also the same reason you can't just use Leading Shots ad nauseum). Thanks for the quick response.

Also, good point on waiting to use the CF to add the die before using OE. I'll put that in my toolbag

With all effects that have identical timing, you choose the timing in which they resolve.

Let us consider this Hypothetical Ship and Situation:

The Ship has:

Concentrate Fire Dial

Concentrate Fire Token

Quad Turbolaser Batteries

Ordnance Experts

Darth Vader

It throws 3 Reds and 3 Blacks.

its initial roll is Blank, Blank, Hit , Hit, Blank, Hit/Crit

At which point, it decides to Reroll using its Concentrate Fire Token. rerolling a Red. That Red comes up Blank

Then the ship decides to add a Die with its concentrate Fire Dial, adding a Red, because it really really wants, and gets, an ACC to trigger Quad Laser Turrets. Which do.

Which means now the Ship has ACC, ACC, BLANK, BLANK HIT, Hit, Blank, Hit/Crit

It decides to then spend an ACC to be able to lock down the Enemy Brace Token. Which it does. At which point, it decides it doesn't need any more accs... So having to reroll the Reds anyway, it throws the ACC, BLANK, BLANK, BLANK with Darth Vader...

Let's say it comes up now with HIT, HIT, DOUBLE HIT, HIT , HIT, HIT, HIT/CRIT

And then decides, with Ordnance Experts, to go all out.... Rerolling those two HITS to fish for more HIT/Crits.

All totally legal.

Provided command dial use was declared at the same time as the token.

Did an edit. Better?

Kinda. The only issue is that it reads like you are choosing to spend the dial after seeing the token result.

Once you decided to spend that Token, your Dial was committed. You would need to be spent during that same attack or you lose it.

But it doesn't change the sequence of events you presented.