Imperial Assault - Rogue One

By SolkaTruesilver, in Star Wars: Imperial Assault

I am 100% certain that FFG are either working on a Rogue One expansion for Imperial Assault, or would at least have asked permission from Lucasart of doing it.

The game is such a perfect recreation of the movie's projected plot, the potential synergy and benefit-reaping from both FFG and the movie studio.

Now, however, do you think FFG should publish an IA-Rogue One box as either:

- Expansion for IA Vanilla

- Stand Alone, self-contained game that can be combined with Imperial Assault for more material

The 1st option would be better for us standard owners, but FFG might be able to get a lot, lot, lot more people into the Hobby if they use the popularity of the movie to turn it into a true Gateway Game that convince people to later buy the full Imperial Assault.

Whatchathink? Stand alone or Expansion?

Seems like a good way to get us a new Darth Vader figure that isn't so freakin' expensive.

Edited by Engine25

A new Vader, standard and Dark troopers, a new tank, new heroes, new Imperial deck..

Make it 100% playable with what came in the box, but bare-boned. And then keep hammering that the Imperial Assault core box will provide a whole new campaign, a boatload of side missions and Imperial Deck, more heroes, etc..

I think they need to avoid dropping a new "Core" box -- IA is too expensive as is for general gamers.

What they should do (says the person with degrees in English/Writing, and nothing for business), really, is create a "Stand Alone Expansion."

This would be a self-contained mini-campaign, one that comes with everything you need to play the game. Think RtH, but with dice, and no call-outs to tiles included in other sets.

This allows players to get a taste of IA, with nothing else needed, isn't as cost prohibitive as the Core box, and still fully useful for current players.

Edit: And starts the plastic-crack addiction we all suffer from.

Edited by ArbitraryNerd

Seems like a good way to get us a new Darth Vader figure that isn't so freakin' expensive.

Or a new Vader that can throw his darn lightsaber like the Inquisitor.

Edited by Keoki

I do NOT want a new core box. Why? Because I ALREADY have enough stormtroopers!

A stand alone expansion would be fine. Just.. well, sorry, but you have to have at least one stormtrooper squad in there :-P

The point is to get new players to the hobby with a lure ;-)

A Rogue One expansion, so-called, could be accomplished in a plastic-less fashion. Just release a campaign guide, and an 8 x 10 cardboard sheet full of new tiles, and some gear and mission cards. No need for new miniatures, or conditions.

Edited by Rikalonius

A Rogue One expansion, so-called, could be accomplished in a plastic-less fashion. Just release a campaign guide, and an 8-10 cardboard sheet full of new tiles, and some gear and mission cards. No need for new miniatures, or conditions.

While this could be done, it would only be usable by people who already own the core game. The idea that struck me as most helpful to growing the player base of this game was making a half size core box basically and making it be a Rogue One Expansion. Small campaign, half the mini's, comes with dice and four heroes or whatever, and maybe even has the exact same core set tiles (existing owners take a hit here, but I would be willing to if it meant getting new people in easier) to help new players not be further behind in the tile department. The other main selling point would be that it directly ties into the characters you see in the movie and can be leveraged to get new players that way even more. Maybe it comes with the right setup of characters to have an imperial 40 point army and rebel 40 point army right in the box to get people into skirmish easier too :) (and I know you can do that with the core set - kind of for rebels - , but if this is a smaller set, maybe it'd take a little more creativity and intention to make it work.)

So maybe not even a campaign but a skirmish expansion that was specifically geared towards having two armies in the box and stuff that new and old players would actually want. And it could have the campaign book if you want but it'd need tiles from other sets. I don't know, I'm just rambling now. Basically, I'd love to see some Rogue One stuff sooner than later (I'm ok with after Endor if that's what it is) and I'd love to see a streamlined entry point for new players to the game (and I personally have 2 copies of pretty much everything because I supply for 3-4 students to play)

Edited by Masterchiefspiff

For now, I feel like Rebels material is far more likely. Now, I would be thrilled and floored if we got a surprise reveal on Force Friday! But, all we can do is wait.

A less expensive stand alone expansion is a good idea, something around the same price point as Hoth building off the popularity of Rogue One could help breathe new life into the game.

A lot of people are hesitant to take the plunge at the cores current price.

Other than a couple blister packs. What would "Rebels" material be? A new pack of Rebels Stormtroopers with - {block} and - 2 {accuracy}?

Other than a couple blister packs. What would "Rebels" material be? A new pack of Rebels Stormtroopers with - {block} and - 2 {accuracy}?

Could follow behind cast on Lothal easily enough and rally locals against the Empire after the Spectres have left, or feature any number of other settings from Rebels.

Edited by Engine25

Well we haven't seen the movie yet so we aren't totally sure what is all in it, but given the history of movies up until this point I think it is safe to assume there will be new races/troops/soldiers/whatever introduced through out the story. For starters, the Death Troopers (is that what the black ones are called?) and Scarab Troopers offer two new Imp units, there was a different type of Storm Trooper also driving the tank.

I can see a new core set being added for rogue one.

But I think it'll be a headache when it comes to competitive skirmish, how do you manage maps using tiles from different core sets without annoying lots of people?

I can see a new core set being added for rogue one.

But I think it'll be a headache when it comes to competitive skirmish, how do you manage maps using tiles from different core sets without annoying lots of people?

That's why I could see it using the same tiles from the main core set, to get new people up to speed and sure we already have them, but I personally wouldn't mind a second set of the core tiles and if I did, I'd consider it a small price to pay to get more people into the game and start seeing regionals consistently hitting higher than 20 people (and less in a lot of places).

I think they need to avoid dropping a new "Core" box -- IA is too expensive as is for general gamers.

What they should do (says the person with degrees in English/Writing, and nothing for business), really, is create a "Stand Alone Expansion."

This would be a self-contained mini-campaign, one that comes with everything you need to play the game. Think RtH, but with dice, and no call-outs to tiles included in other sets.

This allows players to get a taste of IA, with nothing else needed, isn't as cost prohibitive as the Core box, and still fully useful for current players.

Edit: And starts the plastic-crack addiction we all suffer from.

I feel the two bolded and underlined bits contradict themselves.

Sure, I get that a mini campaign will have less content, but you'd still need a considerable amount to make it viable as a standalone box.

More tiles would be needed, extra figures and dice. Basically, the cost would be driven up to RtH, if not more than.

Still, if the price ends up there or slightly more it's still cheaper than the core set buy in, so it might be a viable option...

I think they need to avoid dropping a new "Core" box -- IA is too expensive as is for general gamers.

What they should do (says the person with degrees in English/Writing, and nothing for business), really, is create a "Stand Alone Expansion."

This would be a self-contained mini-campaign, one that comes with everything you need to play the game. Think RtH, but with dice, and no call-outs to tiles included in other sets.

This allows players to get a taste of IA, with nothing else needed, isn't as cost prohibitive as the Core box, and still fully useful for current players.

Edit: And starts the plastic-crack addiction we all suffer from.

I feel the two bolded and underlined bits contradict themselves.

Sure, I get that a mini campaign will have less content, but you'd still need a considerable amount to make it viable as a standalone box.

More tiles would be needed, extra figures and dice. Basically, the cost would be driven up to RtH, if not more than.

Still, if the price ends up there or slightly more it's still cheaper than the core set buy in, so it might be a viable option...

That's more or less the expectation. Yes, you CAN get the Core set cheaper, if you're looking for it, now. But I still think seeing a new, READY TO PLAY set that is $40 cheaper when sitting next to the original Core set at your local FLGS (mine never discounts anything) is the way to go.

Also, a the new-shiny, ready-to-play box becomes something shops have zero issue throwing up in a window display.

Posting an awesome looking expansion up, but then having to tell interested parties that it requires a $100 ADDITIONAL purchase, doesn't help anyone, shop or consumer.

So, yes. A stand alone campaign, that is shorter/smaller than the original Core. Maybe they can be more creative with less tiles, maybe they just accept that hardcore fans will absolutely buy it for the new tiles, whatever. And slap some dice in there. Doesn't need the same amount of minis... There are ways to do it, is all I'm saying.

IA needs a new affordable skirmish-only starter set before it gets another campaign focused core.

As a campaign player, here is why I don't think a "Easy start box" would work.

In case you do not understand what i am saying the idea here is a product that allows you to play the expansions without the core.

Needs:

All original tiles - Expansions reference these so one can't just drop 'em

At least two heroes - Mini campaigns only come with two so an additional two would be a minimum

All non-unique enemies and Vader - Featured in other missions from expansions

Han and Chewbacca - Featured in other missions

Dice

Campaign Tracker

Tokens (including weaken and hide)

Item cards

Supply cards

At least 4 Agenda decks

RRG, LTP, and any other guides

This is all that comes to mind.

This has got to be what $75?! And there isn't even any new content here!!!!!!

Using this model, they would be better off just doing a new Core Set. The only option would be a stand alone which would likely be $80??? If anyone can think of way that this is not the case please say so, because I can't!

Actually. A minimum of 4 heroes would sadly be required.

Make maps that are the baare minimum regarding the use of available tiles to minimize the required terrains.

Accept that the profit margin won't be as great as the regular imperial assault prodicts. But this is meant as a gateway game to ride the wave of the new movie and bring in fresh gamers in the community. The market potential is enormous if done properly.

With the recent deluge of Rogue One products being revealed, they have the bare bones to make a "mini-starter" based on what we are seeing and NOT step on the toes of the original base set:

4 Heroes:

Jyn Erso

Cassian Andor

Chirrut Imwe

Baze Malbus

Imperials:

2x Scarif Stormtroopers (3 figure group)

2x Death Troopers (2 figure group)

Imperial Assault Hovertank

Director Orson Krennic

Ally/Villian packs:

K-2SO

Saw Gererra

Again, that's just a start. The Rogue One product video had a heavy dose of Jawas but I'm not sure if that was for comedic value or if they actually pop up in the movie but they could be an easy inclusion as well for some Scum influence.

seems like a plan to print money. here is hoping we see something on Force Friday.

Let's not forget this would be a good way to get a new Vader

With the reveal of some of the upcomign Rogue One toys we learned that there is already some Rogue One content coming to Imperial Assault in the form of the Jetpack Stormtroopers. :)

I for one would love to see a big box with a campaign based around the new movie. Death Troopers, new tank and a bunch of new characters/allies! It would also allow me to play Obi-Wan and Greedo in the campaign without having to close my eyes to continuity.