Raider II/Overload Pulse and Unique Squadrons

By itzSteve, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

A Raider II has the Overload Pulse upgrade card. It has a anti-squadron armament of 1 Blue/1 Black. If you attack a unique squadron, even though a blue crit won't cause damage, does it still trigger OP?

Nope. Squadrons aren't affected by critical effects.

Intel Officer can be used against them, though.

And Obligatory Rules Quote:


PAGE 4, RRG, "CRITICAL EFFECTS"

• Squadrons cannot resolve or suffer critical effects unless otherwise specified.

Thanks, Dras, I was at work.

Dang...I actually looked in the RRG too...thanks Dras.

Dang...I actually looked in the RRG too...thanks Dras.

Thanks go to DerErlkoenig - he answered correctly first. I just had the PDF handy, as I always do :D

I'm always first. My wife hates it.

Wait... Way different discussion.

I was going to point out that it's in the RRG... But I didn't know where exactly, and just saying that it's in there somewhere almost sounds like I'm trying not to be helpful, lol.

Nope. Squadrons aren't affected by critical effects.

Intel Officer can be used against them, though.

Daaamn! I didn't even think of that.

Throw Kallus on there and you get another blue against unique squads

I know i'm late to topic but just looking at that aspect of overload pulse - squadrons in order to be affected by crits MUST receive a damage card and since they don't received a card those are the only effects that are not applied. Could not the conditional effects of a dice roll be applied as it does not relate to the issuance of damage/critical cards.

4 minutes ago, Mjorr said:

I know i'm late to topic but just looking at that aspect of overload pulse - squadrons in order to be affected by crits MUST receive a damage card and since they don't received a card those are the only effects that are not applied. Could not the conditional effects of a dice roll be applied as it does not relate to the issuance of damage/critical cards.

You have a misconception there, crit effects are not tied to damage cards at all. All you need is a proper crit symbol rolled (blue crit for Overload Pulse) and you can trigger the effect against a ship. There is no need to deal damage cards.

Squadrons are immune to crits in general, as Dras quoted. Also note how the Flechette Torpedoes or Ten Numbs ability is explicitly not a crit effect, but you spend the die showing the crit symbol.

I see what your saying, however squadrons can not suffer "crits" as damage - as its applied in ships, however the dice triggers the effect, no damage is taken or applied to shields or hull as squadrons are immune to that process - the triggered effect is applied as its not damage.

FFG didn't explore crits against squadron yet... maybe wave 6 ;)

Off-topic: did you notice that Avenger works on squadrons? :D

Ovinomanc3r - not played that many game and generally put relentless on any isd as not fully schooled in the art of command dials yet so no avenger buts its against exhausted tokens - my skills are not at the level to plan for that.

43 minutes ago, Mjorr said:

Ovinomanc3r - not played that many game and generally put relentless on any isd as not fully schooled in the art of command dials yet so no avenger buts its against exhausted tokens - my skills are not at the level to plan for that.

Oh don't worry. I played a lot of games and I never used Avenger against aces squadrons but who knows? Maybe you have luck and find yourself on a game where it matters.

EDIT: Maybe with Sloane and Kallus it becomes something.

Edited by ovinomanc3r
3 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

FFG didn't explore crits against squadron yet... maybe wave 6 ;)

Off-topic: did you notice that Avenger works on squadrons? :D

So does the TRC and DTT. Sadly there is no ship so far, that allows these two (slots are there, but defense token is missing).

But using the DTT is already really nice against squadrons.

Or you use the Warlord Titel and the H9. For guarantee hits on squadrons.

10 minutes ago, Tokra said:

So does the TRC and DTT. Sadly there is no ship so far, that allows these two (slots are there, but defense token is missing).

But using the DTT is already really nice against squadrons.

Or you use the Warlord Titel and the H9. For guarantee hits on squadrons.

I know those option exist (I Need-a Quasar with TRC :ph34r: ) but they are not crits. This field still be unexplored.

Fletchette Torpedoes is as close as we get to "Crits versus Squadrons"...

... and its not a Crit versus a Squadron. :D