I'm curious - how many of Sabine's Ties should one get?

By jkokura, in X-Wing

If you have no tie fighters and want to fly them all 4, if you have 2 tie fighters then you would only need 2 to fly any combination

You mean Imperial Ties? That only works if the dials are the same, which we don't know yet. I would assume so, but there may be differences, like Sloops or Tallon Rolls.

Jacob

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My impression about the First Order from the film is that they would not use any old remaining empire vessels nor even remaining officers and staff.

Maybe add a system like in FoW:

Early (Episode 1-3)

Mid (Episode 4-6)

Late (Episode 7-9)

And limit the ships to their time of apparel. And dont forget about the EU ships ;) As you can see, this system would even include Clone Wars era ships.

Well, we don't see anything but the cream of the crop in TFA- what with Kylo Ren, General Hux, and their uber super-weapon. Who knows what they are using in outlying systems or backwater areas.

For personnel however, they would probably still use older Imperials as trainers/higher officers- the First Order was founded by the remnants and survivors of the Galactic Empire.

One

I think ONE is enough.

If I want to fly more than one, I'll just borrow another from someone.

Or I can just paint 3 TIEs all masterpiecey-like and fly four of them. :P

Ive got like ten ties, the only thing worse than two rebel ties would be two that are both painted like Sabine's.

I was thinking of getting one just for fluff. I liked the episode it appeared in.

So at most, one.

But where are the Z's?

Good question, they featured them in the Clone Wars so no obvious reason why the nascent Rebellion wouldn't have some. Maybe they just don't want younger viewers to confuse them with X-wings with the S-foils locked.

This was basically explained by the Rebel Alliance being split up into separate cells that operate independently, each favoring their own types of ships. Phoenix Squadron likes A-wings, while Jan Dodonna's cell uses primarily X and Y-wings.

Just one for me. Only one can use Sabine's Masterpiece so why would I bother adding a bog standard TIE Clay Pigeon to my squadron?

Now some magic pilot ability could change which pilot I'll use. But I really doubt I'll need more than one regardless of cool abilities.

I wonder why they don't have a X-Wing Fighter. Flying a Tie Fighter is suicidal.

There no X-wings in the Rebels yet. Also they fly this TIE in one episode only. Usually they (Hera, Sabine and Ahsoka) fly A-Wing prototypes.

Mhm ... so Rebels takes place in a time before Episode 4. I had the impression that A-Wings came far after X-Wings.

I don't want to unlearn what I have learned just because Mickey Mouse said so :P

Then you are in luck. This is not disney idea, but from Lucas Film. With all those A-Wing predecessors in the prequels they decided that A-Wings should be avaible for the rebellion right from the start. Different rebel cells have access to different ships and only in the battle of endor all rebel cells came together for this large deciding battle. Works out a lot better than the legend stuff in context to the prequels and their establishment of typical kuat fighter designed fighters. Speaking of kuat, A-Wings are now kuat ships.

I havn't watched Rebels but it is my understanding that they have a single Tie Fighter.

So ONE is the correct answer.

I wonder why they don't have a X-Wing Fighter. Flying a Tie Fighter is suicidal.

Well Sabine does like bombs...

I just realized, there's gonna be like, a Captured TIE title that makes it so you can't be attacked by pilots with a lower pilot skill, until you attack or are the last ship or some noise like that, right?

..can we get the highest PS TIE, put VI on them or something, then load Sabine up as crew with like, a Proton Bomb? Then you've got a TIE Fighter that can't be attacked, that can fly into the middle of a TIE Swarm and bomb it to kablamo? ...yeah, it's not tournament viable, but it's funny as hell, and thematic to boot.

It'll just be the OCD-fulfilling 1 for me.

(and even then, probably won't ever fly it)

Assuming you're using it in a rebel list, probably just one. It gives you more options in the sub 20 price range which is great. Because the pilots have different pilot skills and their unique abilities don't really jive flying them in a swarm, I don't see getting more than one.

For me the biggest thing is that it make it much easier to fit all the Rebels characters in a single fluffy list. The closest you could get before was Hera crew in a B-wing to represent her flying the prototype. This is more fluffy IMHO.

Will it be tournament-topping? Probably not but it should be fun and characterful to play.

43 Chopper (37), Hera (1), Zeb (1), Autoblaster turret (2), FCS (2)

26 Ezra (20) , Kanan Jarrus (3), PTL (3)

22 Sabine (15), PTL (3), Sabine's Masterpiece (1), BMST (1), Tactician (2)

91 Total

Plenty of points spare here so you can mess around with the options if you like. A better turret perhaps or more stress inducers like Flechette Torps for BMST to abuse.

Edited by Karhedron

Rebels have shown both A-wings and B-wings (or at least, prototype versions of them) to be in existence well before Yavin.

To be fair, this does not contradict anything we have seen on screen before. It only contradicts secondary material like the old RPGs. People's assumption that the As and Bs are newer than the Xs and Ys is based purely on the fact that we see them in ROTJ but not in ANH and ESB. Plenty of plausible in-Universe explanations could be used to explain this.

It actually doesn't contradict that much, as it has been stated that the A-wings seen in RotJ are modified versions of the original A-wing. the Rebels A-wings are more akin to Z-95s (which I'm puzzled as to why they don't have those either).

You should buy 8, for Epic.

Getting 4 so they can be all matchy.

One

BTW, what is "Rebels"?

No more than 2.

One

BTW, what is "Rebels"?

Crappy cartoon that disrespects everything that came before.

Rebels have shown both A-wings and B-wings (or at least, prototype versions of them) to be in existence well before Yavin.To be fair, this does not contradict anything we have seen on screen before. It only contradicts secondary material like the old RPGs. People's assumption that the As and Bs are newer than the Xs and Ys is based purely on the fact that we see them in ROTJ but not in ANH and ESB. Plenty of plausible in-Universe explanations could be used to explain this.

The A-wings in "Rebels" are probably R-22 Spearheads (which had the nickname "A-Wing"), which is the model the RZ-1 (also nicknamed "A-wing") was based off. The R-22 was available as either a 1 seater or a 2 seater. But the RZ-1 was not developed until after the Battle of Yavin.

EDIT: Double post.

Edited by GLEXOR