The core set is essentially a starter box, so I'll be happy if I can make 4 or so decks out of it to learn how to play the system. Once I do, I'll decide whether or not I want to buy more core sets or the chapter/monthy packs. For $40, I don't expect everything nor should I. People should curve their expectations.

If you have a good community, then I doubt you need to buy two or three core sets. Just trade and actually build a local community. Unless everyone is playing the same clan. Those darn unicorns always popping up in droves.

The core set is essentially a starter box, so I'll be happy if I can make 4 or so decks out of it to learn how to play the system.

The trap is a fact that 1 CS is a kind of demo that will provide you completely different view of whole game. Highlander type decks (1 copy of every card) with so small synergies may just irritate. AN:R or DT:R was best in their classes becasue their structure provided options for much synergied deck building. Later FFG changed their mind and that was IMHO a mistake .

Instead buying 1 CS only i recommend proxying whatever you want in 3x manner, play some games with "real decks" and then decide to purchase playset. It's much safier.

The core set is essentially a starter box, so I'll be happy if I can make 4 or so decks out of it to learn how to play the system.

The trap is a fact that 1 CS is a kind of demo that will provide you completely different view of whole game. Highlander type decks (1 copy of every card) with so small synergies may just irritate. AN:R or DT:R was best in their classes becasue their structure provided options for much synergied deck building options. Later FFG changed their mind and that was IMHO a mistake .

Instead buying 1 CS only i recommend proxying whatever you want in 3x manner, play some games with "real decks" and then decide to purchase playset. It's much safier.

Used to do exactly this before buying singles for L5R before

Definitely a good approach.

Rampant speculation:

I could see them having core sets with full playsets, but instead having several different core sets focusing on different clans. Perhaps five different core sets, each focusing on a pair of clans, and each one providing a full playset of each card inside. This would be my guess, actually.

This eliminates the issues people have with partial playsets and still allows people to get a healthy sample of the game at a cheap price. (Tourney addicts will want all of the core sets, of course.)

The core set is essentially a starter box, so I'll be happy if I can make 4 or so decks out of it to learn how to play the system.

The trap is a fact that 1 CS is a kind of demo that will provide you completely different view of whole game. Highlander type decks (1 copy of every card) with so small synergies may just irritate. AN:R or DT:R was best in their classes becasue their structure provided options for much synergied deck building. Later FFG changed their mind and that was IMHO a mistake .

Instead buying 1 CS only i recommend proxying whatever you want in 3x manner, play some games with "real decks" and then decide to purchase playset. It's much safier.

I'm a little more interesting in learning the game with a core set. If I like it and I actually need more than one core set , then I'd buy more . ​I'll most likely end up buying multiple core sets just to give people at my local shop decks to use or to keep.

I do wonder how you know that there's only going to be 1 of every card? Seems a bit presumptuous. Did the AGoT 2.0 core set include only 1x of every card? Has any of the lcg core sets only included 1x of each card.

You'd expect people would curb expectations by now.

I do wonder how you know that there's only going to be 1 of every card? Seems a bit presumptuous. Did the AGoT 2.0 core set include only 1x of every card? Has any of the lcg core sets only included 1x of each card.

Thrones core set only had 1x of just about every card except Neutrals, some of which were 2x.

I'm a little more interesting in learning the game with a core set. If I like it and I actually need more than one core set , then I'd buy more . ​I'll most likely end up buying multiple core sets just to give people at my local shop decks to use or to keep.

I do wonder how you know that there's only going to be 1 of every card? Seems a bit presumptuous. Did the AGoT 2.0 core set include only 1x of every card? Has any of the lcg core sets only included 1x of each card.

Basically, yes. The last two LCG releases (Conquest and GOT 2.0) had exactly one of every card*, except for two of some very simple common cards. (*Conquest with its Warlord card pack deck building rules actually meant your chosen lord had the full multiple copies of their armies, events, etc., they should have). So about 95% of the cards were singletons, except for the L5R equivalents of Small Farm and Light Infantry.

This set up was very well-received by the tournament players -- if you felt the urge to get a full playset, you were "throwing away" less cards when you bought three copies, because nearly all your cards were singletons.

Given the success of that, most long-time LCG players are expecting an L5R base set much like GOT 2.0 then.

Back even as recently as Netrunner, the base set had a full playset of "commons", 2x of the "uncommons", and 1x of the "rares". Which is why many tournament players stopped at just two core sets -- it gave you 6x of "commons", 4x "uncommons", and 2x "rares", which was usually enough even for serious competitive decks.

I do wonder how you know that there's only going to be 1 of every card? Seems a bit presumptuous. Did the AGoT 2.0 core set include only 1x of every card? Has any of the lcg core sets only included 1x of each card.

Thrones core set only had 1x of just about every card except Neutrals, some of which were 2x.

The basic "gold lands" for each faction were also two-ofs. And I think a few of the basic spuds (the "mana" dudes and the basic 2s for 2) were also two-ofs.

Also Call of Cthulhu Core Set is about 1x's except some neutral 2x. Just go to CardgameDB database and filter for every LCG Core Set cards. There's 'quantity' position that shows number of this card in box.

As someone who usually likes to have loads of decks built at once, I never felt like any spares I have in any game are a waste!

As someone who usually likes to have loads of decks built at once, I never felt like any spares I have in any game are a waste!

While I want to love the LCG model, this is exactly where I am at. I often want to have several decks at once and that would require buying many, many, core sets. At least that was true in Netrunner when I played. and that was off putting.

I am looking forward to the LCG model. Being able to just concentrate on deck building and playing and not worrying about the cost of loads of wasted cards? win win.

The CCG model is partially the reason L5R failed, along with those sometime poisonous forums. To commit to the game required a huge amount of cash and to shorten the cost lots of people went straight to the distributors (Potomac) to cut out the local shops. To get several 'competent' decks or each of the major factions also required a large collection (or placeholders) so of playing casually - the LCG model is better both for new players and casual players. if not playing casually then the LCG model is still cheaper as the cost of 6! of each core set would still be considerably less than the CCG cost to get the same.

So looking forward to the eventual release...

I am looking forward to the LCG model. Being able to just concentrate on deck building and playing and not worrying about the cost of loads of wasted cards? win win.

The CCG model is partially the reason L5R failed, along with those sometime poisonous forums. To commit to the game required a huge amount of cash and to shorten the cost lots of people went straight to the distributors (Potomac) to cut out the local shops. To get several 'competent' decks or each of the major factions also required a large collection (or placeholders) so of playing casually - the LCG model is better both for new players and casual players. if not playing casually then the LCG model is still cheaper as the cost of 6! of each core set would still be considerably less than the CCG cost to get the same.

So looking forward to the eventual release...

If you want really cheap card game (cheaper than any LCG around) with infinity replay possibilities i recommend you this .

Lol, I will happily play this lcg and probably buy 3 core sets. I'm happy, pity you don't seem to be

Lol, I will happily play this lcg and probably buy 3 core sets. I'm happy, pity you don't seem to be

You're happy even without knowledge how game will look. Perfect customer. Asmodee is proud of you. Earn a medal!

I'm a bit of a stoic and obsessing about things out of your control is regarded as a waste of time. L5r I returning, in a format I like. What's not to be happy about.

Lol, I will happily play this lcg and probably buy 3 core sets. I'm happy, pity you don't seem to be

You're happy even without knowledge how game will look. Perfect customer. Asmodee is proud of you. Earn a medal!

Lose the condescending ass style of your posts. Don't like it don't buy it. More for the rest of us.

Don't like it don't buy it. More for the rest of us.

Not so fast. I'll just wait for for first wave of second hand sales. Just like did with Conquest buying everything for 50% after 1st cycle.

Hey guys, i'm also really interested how this game will look but my current experiences with FFG/LCG tell me it won't be a good game.

Don't like it don't buy it. More for the rest of us.

Not so fast. I'll just wait for for first wave of second hand sales. Just like did with Conquest buying everything for 50% after 1st cycle.

Hey guys, i'm also really interested how this game will look but my current experiences with FFG/LCG tell me it won't be a good game.

Criticising someone for being optimistic about a game they haven't even seen yet, two posts later; being pessimistic about a game that's not even out yet......

Most of your comments here basically boil down to your unreasonable desire of having a playset of cards for 60 dollars. the lcg model is demonstrably cheaper than ccg yet you still want everything for next to nothing.

Criticising someone for being optimistic about a game they haven't even seen yet, two posts later; being pessimistic about a game that's not even out yet......

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment ."

Most of your comments here basically boil down to your unreasonable desire of having a playset of cards for 60 dollars. the lcg model is demonstrably cheaper than ccg yet you still want everything for next to nothing.

I don't wan't to repeat myself again, but... CS are just IMHO a bad idea becasue i don't want to pay for cards i'll never use. Three times. So that's why i believe they cost too much for my purposes. In CCG i sticked mainly to one Clan per edition so try to understand my point of view. Only required purchase was starter that costed me 3/4 of LCG CS and instead demo game i've received working deck + deckbox. All required cards i got from single hunting, redrafts and prizes from local tourneys and Imperial Assembly koku orders.

Criticising someone for being optimistic about a game they haven't even seen yet, two posts later; being pessimistic about a game that's not even out yet......

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment ."

Most of your comments here basically boil down to your unreasonable desire of having a playset of cards for 60 dollars. the lcg model is demonstrably cheaper than ccg yet you still want everything for next to nothing.

i don't want to pay for cards i'll never use.

This happens in every card game. Sadly a company can't tailor make a box of cards for each individual. Even in your facetious example of posting a deck of playing cards there are cards you won't use.

What is it exactly that you want in a core set?

as an aside - Stock pseudo-inspirational phrases contribute very little to any discussion, using them as "gotchas" just makes people come across as inane.

This happens in every card game. Sadly a company can't tailor make a box of cards for each individual. Even in your facetious example of posting a deck of playing cards there are cards you won't use.

You know there's subtle difference paying 20$ and 120$, don't you think? Especially if you for this price got also metal deckbox.

"... so try to understand my point of view."

I believe we understand your point of view very well:

Probably we could will be still in stone age if all people will think same way.

If you want really cheap card game (cheaper than any LCG around) with infinity replay possibilities i recommend you this .

You're happy even without knowledge how game will look. Perfect customer. Asmodee is proud of you. Earn a medal!

You know there's subtle difference paying 20$ and 120$...

You are an ass and don't accept that other people can be happy or pleased with something that you aren't. You're like that kid that makes fun of everyone because if "if it isn't good for you, why should anyone else be happy?"

What is it exactly that you want in a core set?

Thanks for trap question. I wrote above i don't want any multi Core Sets. Bring back Clan oriented starters with playsets of cards that will allow to any deckbuilding instead filling decks with crap cards because there are no substitutes.

Imagine situation where everyone's has option to buy his own 'clan deluxe' before even first cycle starts.

Don't like it don't buy it. More for the rest of us.

Not so fast. I'll just wait for for first wave of second hand sales. Just like did with Conquest buying everything for 50% after 1st cycle.

Hey guys, i'm also really interested how this game will look but my current experiences with FFG/LCG tell me it won't be a good game.

Criticising someone for being optimistic about a game they haven't even seen yet, two posts later; being pessimistic about a game that's not even out yet......

Most of your comments here basically boil down to your unreasonable desire of having a playset of cards for 60 dollars. the lcg model is demonstrably cheaper than ccg yet you still want everything for next to nothing.

I for one welcome the day companies start offering cheapskate players nothing but a raised middle finger.