I wonder if there will be a descent conversion kit where you might be able to use some of those models more neutral units in Rune Wars
Descent Conversion
A few models may be reused eventually, but I think the odds of a conversion kit are incredibly low.
Runewars minis have a hole in the base, to fit on the trays, and descent ones do not. It's not much but I think it'll prevent reuse of the old minis.
It would be great if you could use them, I've already got golems from both versions of descent, it's a bit annoying to have to buy more.
I hope future models are cross compatible.
Nothing that a drill cant solve...
Nothing that a drill cant solve...
I don't see FFG as the type of company to release a conversion kit that includes a movement tray and rules cards but no model and requires drilling a hole into a model's base from a different game. They're far more likely to simply retool the manufacturing process and redo the models with a new style base... which is what they've clearly done with Ardus Ix'Erebus. He's the leader of the Waiqar the Undying side of the starter set, exists as a Descent Lieutenant model with the same sculpt, but has different bases in the two different games. I'd expect any other models making the jump to have new bases in the same fashion.
Now... what I CAN see happening is that future Descent heroes/lieutenants and maybe even some monsters might start coming with RuneWars type bases. From a gaming perspective, so long as the base is 1" in diameter or smaller, it'll fit the Descent tile squares. Changing the base type would reduce the need to make two different molds for what is effectively the same model but would have the added benefit of opening up Descent models as potential RuneWars add-ons. At that point, FFG could include Descent hero cards with RuneWars expansion packs and vice versa. I doubt they'll do this, but all else equal, it makes sense to keep the option open. CMON has been doing hero cross compatibility between games set in the same universe recently (Masmorra/Aracdia Quest, Massive Darkness/Zombicide Black Plague), so there is an industry precedent saying this might happen.
FFG have already done that with the earlier terrinoth games.
A new hero introduced in one game came with cards for the other games.
But wasn't the scale of miniatures from Runewars and Descent different? Someone posted a comparison picture. It looked like Descent miniatures are smaller. Runewars looks like 28-30mm heroic while Descent is more 28mm true scale.
But wasn't the scale of miniatures from Runewars and Descent different? Someone posted a comparison picture. It looked like Descent miniatures are smaller. Runewars looks like 28-30mm heroic while Descent is more 28mm true scale.
The newer Descent models are physically larger than the older ones. Descent 1st Edition had relatively tiny models. Descent 2nd Edition had larger ones from the start when it was released in 2012. Since then, the scale has grown. The heroes from the most recent releases are all taller and bulkier than the heroes from the initial core game release. Ardus Ix'Erebus, one of the more recent Descent Lieutenant releases appears to be an identical sculpt with different base to the Ardus Ix'Erebus model being used as the Waiqar the Undying Hero in the RuneWars core game. In that sense, the scale is identical as the models are identical.
It'd be great from a gamer perspective if they could figure out cross comptibility whether in future releases containing all cards, conversion kits or some other answer.
Not only dkes it make sense for the customer so they aren't rebuying the same minis for different cards (as is already the case with Runebound 3, Descent 2). But, it seems like it would make alot of buisiness sense for FFG to cross pollinate their games.
"I have all these heroes I can use from Runebound maybe I should gie Descent a try. Wow, with my substantial Descent collection I almost have a full army, no reason for me not to start Runewars Mini Game."
If they are going to reuse assets anyway they are making a mistake or at least missing a huge possible positive if they choose to segment their player bases over card stock.
I don't think this is going to happen.
Descent is a hero base game vs. monsters and Runewars is a platoon miniature game with some heroes.
In runewars we are going to get probably 4 infantry miniatures, 2 cavalry, 1 monster / hero in a blister, tray, dial, some cards... the pack more similar to this in Descent is Lieutenant Miniatures which come with a miniature, some cards and tokens.
FFG have probably to double the number of cardboard to include at the same time the dial for Runewars and tokens for Descent, also double the number of cards for the different games, include the tray... there is so much material people only collecting one game is not going to use.
On 8/17/2016 at 4:10 PM, KrisWall said:The newer Descent models are physically larger than the older ones. Descent 1st Edition had relatively tiny models. Descent 2nd Edition had larger ones from the start when it was released in 2012. Since then, the scale has grown. The heroes from the most recent releases are all taller and bulkier than the heroes from the initial core game release. Ardus Ix'Erebus, one of the more recent Descent Lieutenant releases appears to be an identical sculpt with different base to the Ardus Ix'Erebus model being used as the Waiqar the Undying Hero in the RuneWars core game. In that sense, the scale is identical as the models are identical.
Ardus is actually a little larger and slightly different sculpt moving from Descent 2ed to Runewars.
I'd be excited to see a conversion kit as well but agree... it seems really unlikely.
I'd be happy seeing more Descent characters existing in RW. It helps to solidify the universe and it would be nice to have other stories to go with Descent characters or vice versa.
Some of the RW minis can work well enough to replace tokens in Descent, like the Reanimates and Spearmen.