I'm looking forward to this ship, but not sure when I'll actually get it. I'm out for at least a month with surgery.

Sorry to hear that. Hope you have a good recovery!

Thanks. Good thing to get done, but aggravating to go through it (again).

Tabled Dengar during the first engagement with a Ketsu list the other night. He simply ran out of dice to stop all the hell coming at him.

Range 1 Ketsu gives him a TB. With VI, she shot and gave him another TB token. Now with 0 agility, he has to dodge a range 1 Fenn and clusters from N'dru. *poof*

For that to happen in the opening round you need a Dengar that lets you get into range 1 of him with Ketsu. Even if hemoves first, it doesn't take alk that much to prevent that from happening, rule of 11 and the like.

First engagement does not have to be the same thing as opening round. Sure you should be able to use rule of 11 to guarantee no range 1 for the first combat if you're set up straight across from each other, but if you set up opposite corners or something and maneuvered around befor eyou got to combat, it's entirely possible

I know. My point was that it's not simple. Even if you have the most favorable circumstances (he moves first) you still meed to outplay Dengar to make it happen.

EDIT: you need to outplay him even more to get the other ships into range 1 as well.

No one had seen the new stuff played. Dengar player saw Fenn as a quick kill. Ketsu and Fenn were R1, N'dru at R2. And honestly, with Fenn at R1 and N'dru throwing his ability-boosted clusters, I could have just slammed Ketsu into him and been fine probably. 13 red vs 2 green and he has 9 hp?

Tabled Dengar during the first engagement with a Ketsu list the other night. He simply ran out of dice to stop all the hell coming at him.

Range 1 Ketsu gives him a TB. With VI, she shot and gave him another TB token. Now with 0 agility, he has to dodge a range 1 Fenn and clusters from N'dru. *poof*

For that to happen in the opening round you need a Dengar that lets you get into range 1 of him with Ketsu. Even if hemoves first, it doesn't take alk that much to prevent that from happening, rule of 11 and the like.

First engagement does not have to be the same thing as opening round. Sure you should be able to use rule of 11 to guarantee no range 1 for the first combat if you're set up straight across from each other, but if you set up opposite corners or something and maneuvered around befor eyou got to combat, it's entirely possible

I know. My point was that it's not simple. Even if you have the most favorable circumstances (he moves first) you still meed to outplay Dengar to make it happen.

EDIT: you need to outplay him even more to get the other ships into range 1 as well.

No one had seen the new stuff played. Dengar player saw Fenn as a quick kill. Ketsu and Fenn were R1, N'dru at R2. And honestly, with Fenn at R1 and N'dru throwing his ability-boosted clusters, I could have just slammed Ketsu into him and been fine probably. 13 red vs 2 green and he has 9 hp?

Some stuff is bloody obvious. Do you really need to see Fenn Rau played before understand getting into range 1 of him is probably a bad idea ? His ability is nothing fancy, it's just simple dice trade math.