Men of Iron Stats

By AbeSamael, in Deathwatch

Hey There

I was looking to do a bait and switch by building up the Necrons as the grand foe in my campaign but instead its chaos taking over Men of Iron STC and creating a massive army.

To that end I wanna know how would an average Man of Iron looks in terms of stats. Is there something already out there? What should be their basis compared to a Space Marine?

Thanks for you help.

Good luck, brother. I tried to find out stuff on them a long time ago. Apparently there is a lot of official stuff set in 30,000, the time of the founding of the imperium and the horus kerfuffle, but apparently jack xxxx before that.

Good luck, brother. I tried to find out stuff on them a long time ago. Apparently there is a lot of official stuff set in 30,000, the time of the founding of the imperium and the horus kerfuffle, but apparently jack xxxx before that.

That is because the Horus Heresy is being fleshed out by Forge World (Horus Heresy wargame) and the Black Library (novels). In-universe there is incredibly little information on the Dark Age of Technology (and anything else pre-unification). Also, the Emperor banned all AI (hence servo skulls and servitors) so even if someone did know something (which they probably don't) it wouldn't be anyone who would be willing to share, since knowing how a man of iron works is technoheresy, and probably regular heresy as well.

Hell, at the council of nikaea the big E banned the use of psykers. so every psyker in the imperium except tge astropaths is a heretic, as is every organization using them.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Council_of_Nikaea

Apparently after banning marine psykers the imperoum decided to change tbe emp's ruling as it realized the marines needed librarians.

Edited by Professor Tanhauser

I would say create some Men of Iron using Necrons as a base, rearranging a few themes to make them unique. Or you could use the Tau stats, and make them all mechanical, and of course changing their appearance, representing the technological levels man was able to reach before everything went down hill.

Also Chaos doesn't necessarily have to be involved, this could be a group of Men of Iron who escaped humanities wrath and has been hiding out on the edges of known space, waiting for the right moment to return.

Hell, at the council of nikaea the big E banned the use of psykers. so every psyker in the imperium except tge astropaths is a heretic, as is every organization using them.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Council_of_Nikaea

Apparently after banning marine psykers the imperoum decided to change tbe emp's ruling as it realized the marines needed librarians.

I'm a Sister's player. You'll get no argument from me if you choose to purge the filthy witches from your regiment/chapter.

Yeah, apparently after the heresy it was realized that marine chapters, the inquisition, etc needed tamed psykers to function so the council of nikaea was amended while the emperor was "on the throne".

More like during the heresy even. Once the daemons began popping up and slaughering whole squads, a lot of ex-librarians went "screw nikea! we gotta use what works here!" and willfully ignored it.

Meanwhile the bloody spacewolves had their Rune priests: isn't that wonderfull ? The emperor is going: "non secular galaxy! No worship! No priests! and no psykers!... But it's ok if Russ's boys do it." And those guys are comming to raze your planet because you tried to warn your dad... sanctimonius hypocrite...

And people wonder why I'm with chaos.

i seem to recall that magnus tried to warn tge emperor but somehow let chaos loose inntve imperial.palace thru tbe wrbway....gotta go look it up.

I'm thinking of throwing these guys are my players and for a weapon I recommend a full auto lascannon with 10 shots per burst. Those Dark Age of Technology stuffs should be nasty and will make the players come up with something more advanced and make them come up with some tactics that is not frontal assault by invincible steam rollers. Or at least that's how I imagine it. :)

More like during the heresy even. Once the daemons began popping up and slaughering whole squads, a lot of ex-librarians went "screw nikea! we gotta use what works here!" and willfully ignored it.

Meanwhile the bloody spacewolves had their Rune priests: isn't that wonderfull ? The emperor is going: "non secular galaxy! No worship! No priests! and no psykers!... But it's ok if Russ's boys do it." And those guys are comming to raze your planet because you tried to warn your dad... sanctimonius hypocrite...

And people wonder why I'm with chaos.

You will burn, heretic

PS: Intended as a joke, just in case.

Edited by Gurkhal

i seem to recall that magnus tried to warn tge emperor but somehow let chaos loose inntve imperial.palace thru tbe wrbway....gotta go look it up.

Yup. Magnus breaches the webway letting chaos in and travels trough the terran portal to warn the emperor.

It sorta goes like this in the novels:

Magnus: "Dad! sorry for bargin' in like this but Horus has gone traitor!"

Emperor: *facepalms* Magnus. I believe you. But that is nothing. Even a full blown civil war we could survive and overcome. What you have just effed up-That was our ticket out of warp travel and the key for mankind to rule the stars. And I can't fix it now it's broken. I'm the goddamned emperor and even I can't fix this! You understand? We had one shot at this. ONE! and now it's gone. I told you to stop doing what you were doing because I knew this would happen. And you didn't listen. And now mankinds future is effed!"

Magnus: "F***!"

Emperor: "Go away Magnus. Now I gotta go kill the daemons you let in my basement."

Edited by Robin Graves

I'm thinking of throwing these guys are my players and for a weapon I recommend a full auto lascannon with 10 shots per burst. Those Dark Age of Technology stuffs should be nasty and will make the players come up with something more advanced and make them come up with some tactics that is not frontal assault by invincible steam rollers. Or at least that's how I imagine it. :)

More like during the heresy even. Once the daemons began popping up and slaughering whole squads, a lot of ex-librarians went "screw nikea! we gotta use what works here!" and willfully ignored it.

Meanwhile the bloody spacewolves had their Rune priests: isn't that wonderfull ? The emperor is going: "non secular galaxy! No worship! No priests! and no psykers!... But it's ok if Russ's boys do it." And those guys are comming to raze your planet because you tried to warn your dad... sanctimonius hypocrite...

And people wonder why I'm with chaos.

You will burn, heretic

PS: Intended as a joke, just in case.

I'm no heretic. I'm Alpharius. ;)

I'm thinking of throwing these guys are my players and for a weapon I recommend a full auto lascannon with 10 shots per burst. Those Dark Age of Technology stuffs should be nasty and will make the players come up with something more advanced and make them come up with some tactics that is not frontal assault by invincible steam rollers. Or at least that's how I imagine it. :)

More like during the heresy even. Once the daemons began popping up and slaughering whole squads, a lot of ex-librarians went "screw nikea! we gotta use what works here!" and willfully ignored it.

Meanwhile the bloody spacewolves had their Rune priests: isn't that wonderfull ? The emperor is going: "non secular galaxy! No worship! No priests! and no psykers!... But it's ok if Russ's boys do it." And those guys are comming to raze your planet because you tried to warn your dad... sanctimonius hypocrite...

And people wonder why I'm with chaos.

You will burn, heretic

PS: Intended as a joke, just in case.

I'm no heretic. I'm Alpharius. ;)

Get your ass on top of that pyre, I'm gonna lit it with my portable two-man flamethrower.

I'm thinking of throwing these guys are my players and for a weapon I recommend a full auto lascannon with 10 shots per burst. Those Dark Age of Technology stuffs should be nasty and will make the players come up with something more advanced and make them come up with some tactics that is not frontal assault by invincible steam rollers. Or at least that's how I imagine it. :)

More like during the heresy even. Once the daemons began popping up and slaughering whole squads, a lot of ex-librarians went "screw nikea! we gotta use what works here!" and willfully ignored it.

Meanwhile the bloody spacewolves had their Rune priests: isn't that wonderfull ? The emperor is going: "non secular galaxy! No worship! No priests! and no psykers!... But it's ok if Russ's boys do it." And those guys are comming to raze your planet because you tried to warn your dad... sanctimonius hypocrite...

And people wonder why I'm with chaos.

You will burn, heretic

PS: Intended as a joke, just in case.

I'm no heretic. I'm Alpharius. ;)

Get your ass on top of that pyre, I'm gonna lit it with my portable two-man flamethrower.

It's gonna take a SoB Immolator tank to take care of me! ;) Speaking of sisters of battle: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/227770-adepta-sororitas-general-discussion/