I have not been able to get as many games in as I'd like, so haven't faced Triple Defenders or Dengaroo yet. Any thoughts on facing either list? What worked for you, what failed horribly?

I've had trouble tackling triple defenders with the x7 title. They are too durable for the 2-dice attacks, even with Crack shot, to handle. I've started TAPS with Prockets and phantoms instead. Haven't faced dengaroo as such.

at this point in the game, we have to distinguish old school 7-8 Tie swarm from the newer 6 Tie Crackswarm

I'm sure you could make either work if you're baller enough to fly that many ships in the first place, but Crackswarm is a hell of a lot more reliable thanks to crackshot and the PS advantage just lets you steamroll through torpscouts in a straight joust

Are we talking regular swarm or crack swarm? They have very different odds against U-boats.

Mainly because crack swarms scare the hell out of U-boats and regular swarms just annoy them by giving them too many targets. I've not even seen swarm vs Dengaroo, but crack swarm can chew through 2 green dice rather easily. So my guess is that even with the token stacking one of the Jumpmasters is going down by the second round of shooting.

as for Dengaroo v crackswarm, I only have indirect experience (i.e, my experience literally consists of me glancing over at the game next to me during a tournament )

both players were new to their respective lists, so what I saw was the rather hilarious scene of Dengar bumped to a black squadron and in range 1 of the entire rest of the swarm

and he trounced them all

guess you gotta go for manaroo

I don't personally fly crackswarm (have you seen my name !? ), but them dice against zuckuss..yeah no way in hell. I have been occasionally described as "self loathing", but that's a form a torture I would never put myself through

I've heard on multiple podcasts that there's nothing scarier than a TIE swarm player who is good.

I like this:

Black Squadron Pilot (15) x 4
TIE Fighter (14), Crack Shot (1)

Patrol Leader (40)

VT-49 Decimator

I've been alternating between the Pattiswarm and this:

Howlrunner, Crackshot, Stealth Device.

Wampa, SD.

Black Squadron, Crackshot. x4.

I have had pretty easy matches vs Triple Dumpmaster lists, but haven't flown vs Dengaroo.

I've heard on multiple podcasts that there's nothing scarier than a TIE swarm player who is good.

I like this:

Black Squadron Pilot (15) x 4

TIE Fighter (14), Crack Shot (1)

Patrol Leader (40)

VT-49 Decimator

grain a salt (I detest PWTs), but I don't think that a naked Patrol leader is going to offer you much of anything that you couldn't get more efficiently out of other ships

you don't even need to just go pure ties, a doomshuttle and a tie imo would be a more effective use of your points

grain a salt (I detest PWTs), but I don't think that a naked Patrol leader is going to offer you much of anything that you couldn't get more efficiently out of other ships

you don't even need to just go pure ties, a doomshuttle and a tie imo would be a more effective use of your points

I agree. But it looks fun to try once.