Needs some Gunboats, don't you think?

Ewwwwwwwwwwww!

I would much prefer having played a wave before the next is announced, just piling on more stuff to wait for doesn't seem to make it more exciting.

Though in this case it did make me appreciate wave 9 even more now

I would also prefer at least dials to stay unspoiled until release.. its so lame to see people talk about lists they've been playing for months before they even exist.

Getting my impvets didn't feel like something new, everyone else had used it months before me.

Needs some Gunboats, don't you think?

Ewwwwwwwwwwww!

ew as in "ew why weren't those Ks there before?"

because that is an objectively improved image right there

Needs some Gunboats, don't you think?

Ewwwwwwwwwwww!

ew as in "ew why weren't those Ks there before?"

because that is an objectively improved image right there

BLUE ISSUE FIXED... also... HIP-Hurray!

Whilst there though I did ponder to myself what is possible of defeating the Dengar / Manaroo lists I keep seeing...

Five Cartel Marauders.

Needs some Gunboats, don't you think?

Ewwwwwwwwwwww!

ew as in "ew why weren't those Ks there before?"

because that is an objectively improved image right there

I think it needs some Blue Squadron B-Wings, too.

Whilst there though I did ponder to myself what is possible of defeating the Dengar / Manaroo lists I keep seeing...

Five Cartel Marauders.

But that's why I don't fly jousters, eh?

In all seriousness, I dont see dengaroo as NEARLY a big a deal as torp scouts

Hell, I completely agree with geeko here so long as I'm not the one rolling the dice

Even if it is suicidal charge dengaroo from the front, you can HALF his damage output on the joust by giving up a mere 20% of your list's firepower to block his 2 sloop and, by extension, his ability

MATCH UP!!!

See how nice...

It's so colorful

Swedge, on 09 Aug 2016 - 06:00 AM, said:

The only problem i have with spoiling are those folks that actually proxy the spoiled stuff while i choose to wait then when i do get it the folks that have proxied it all ready know how to use all the new combos..But its not THAT big a deal. I just like to have SOME surprises left when i open the box..And its not like i am a hyper competitive player that has to be on the cutting edge meta..However I do come on here and read all about the new stuff so i am just as bed..lol

That play testing and list theorizing is more effective when the entire player base has a chance to do so. Look at how quickly torpedo boats came about and how deceptively strong dengaroo is. It is the same reason why free enterprise is far more effective than centrally controlled economies (Venezuela). If I were FFG I would spoil stuff early enough to make changes in case the player base finds something broken that FFG missed.

It's so colorful

How bout Babies Dual Six-Pack Missile Pods?

40k still has it's uses... sometimes.

Whilst there though I did ponder to myself what is possible of defeating the Dengar / Manaroo lists I keep seeing...

Five Cartel Marauders.

Not with my dice

But that's why I don't fly jousters, eh?

In all seriousness, I dont see dengaroo as NEARLY a big a deal as torp scouts

Hell, I completely agree with geeko here so long as I'm not the one rolling the dice

Even if it is suicidal charge dengaroo from the front, you can HALF his damage output on the joust by giving up a mere 20% of your list's firepower to block his 2 sloop and, by extension, his ability

Scouts and Palp Aces have been my hardest matches; but they're pretty much every lists hardest matches at the moment. Dengaroo is tailored to cause problems for multi-ace lists - who wants to lose 1/3 to 1/2 or their list's damage output to Dengar's revenge fire ability? 1/5 isn't quite as much of a worry, though.

I imagine Crackswarm will be just as effective with sheer volume of fire and number of targets; unlike the Marauders it has clear target priority if Howlrunner is taken though.

Whilst there though I did ponder to myself what is possible of defeating the Dengar / Manaroo lists I keep seeing...

Five Cartel Marauders.

Not with my dice

But that's why I don't fly jousters, eh?

In all seriousness, I dont see dengaroo as NEARLY a big a deal as torp scouts

Hell, I completely agree with geeko here so long as I'm not the one rolling the dice

Even if it is suicidal charge dengaroo from the front, you can HALF his damage output on the joust by giving up a mere 20% of your list's firepower to block his 2 sloop and, by extension, his ability

Scouts and Palp Aces have been my hardest matches; but they're pretty much every lists hardest matches at the moment. Dengaroo is tailored to cause problems for multi-ace lists - who wants to lose 1/3 to 1/2 or their list's damage output to Dengar's revenge fire ability? 1/5 isn't quite as much of a worry, though.

I imagine Crackswarm will be just as effective with sheer volume of fire and number of targets; unlike the Marauders it has clear target priority if Howlrunner is taken though.

How about 4 Black Sun Aces with Crackshot and two with Black Market Slicer Tools?

Back on to the spoilers:

I agree that they need to be spoiled earlier. The testers (which are around 30 odd, worldwide?) cannot test everything possible. They play the obvious ones such as removing the EPT from the Ghost, giving the Adv. Proto a tile (assuming it didn't come with it originally, I mean, imagine that for a second!) but by the time they get round to the stupid combos such as quad TLT and triple jumps, the ships are so far into the process it is more of a quality check than a design re-write.

What it does allow however is early feed back which can be addressed in the coming waves.

Now if they spoiled all the cards or at least the cards which they had concerns about in their own testing, these would hit vassel and tables in a far greater number and those combos would come out sooner.

MATCH UP!!!

See how nice...

It's nice, but why didn't you make half the ARCs blue?

MATCH UP!!!

See how nice...

It's nice, but why didn't you make half the ARCs blue?

...

resistance overhaul

with the majority of the resistance's t-70s destroyed in the battle over starkiller base and the new republic reduced to powder, our heroes have been forced to utilize alternative craft to take the fight to the first order

wham-bam-blue ARCS-thank you, ma'am!

primary arc is 2-dice ion cannon, aux arc is an additional die of damage

MATCH UP!!!

See how nice...

It's nice, but why didn't you make half the ARCs blue?

...

"IF ONLY YOU KNEW THE POWER..."

Shouldn't there be blue and red TIEs now that the Rebels have all the TIEs?

I'm all for one wave to come out before the next one is announced. It totally kills the buzz and excitement. Having done marketing and sales for more years than I care to remember, it just seems weird to me to get your target audience hyped for product that happens to be that far off, when another bunch of product that they should be hyped for is almost ready to go to market. I get that they want something fun to talk about at GenCon or whatever event they're at. I just wish they wouldn't do it.

Needs some Gunboats, don't you think?

Ewwwwwwwwwwww!

ew as in "ew why weren't those Ks there before?"

because that is an objectively improved image right there

I think it needs some Blue Squadron B-Wings, too.

BABY BLUES!

Joe, this is a reasonable and on-topic discussion. Why are you intentionally trying to derail what is an otherwise polite exchange?

Joe, this is a reasonable and on-topic discussion. Why are you intentionally trying to derail what is an otherwise polite exchange?

It's a silly topic. I'm super excited to get my hands on a some ARCs and TIE/sf fighters!

Joe, this is a reasonable and on-topic discussion. Why are you intentionally trying to derail what is an otherwise polite exchange?

Wuz sharing and caring about fun stuff...

If you find it silly, just don't reply to it. Simple. No need to take what's an on-topic discussion that's relevant to some users and attempt to discourage them from using it.

I'm all for one wave to come out before the next one is announced. It totally kills the buzz and excitement. Having done marketing and sales for more years than I care to remember, it just seems weird to me to get your target audience hyped for product that happens to be that far off, when another bunch of product that they should be hyped for is almost ready to go to market. I get that they want something fun to talk about at GenCon or whatever event they're at. I just wish they wouldn't do it.

I think it could be turned into a good marketing opportunity IF they tied their announcements back to the previous wave

Easy examples:

Stolen Tie --> new cap Rex crew--> hey remember the ARC?

Stolen Tie --> new illicit --> like a certain smuggling compartment, eh?

UPS shuttle --> hey Kylo likes it when enemies suffer critical damage; remember Backdraft? First Order Synergy!!!! --> new tech! Don't forget the SF guys!!!!

EDIT: Completely forgot how the UPS has freaking coordinate

Coordinate + rage baffle QuickDraw = goddamn shenanigans

It's like they were MADE to work together, like they were SFs escorting rens shuttle in ep 7 or something...

Quad jump --> hey guys, remember the Ketsu crew that isn't even out yet? Well, here's A MOUNTAIN OF TBEAM TOKENS!!!

etc

Only problem is this would require solid knowledge of game mechanics that their marketing department has repeatedly shown is lacking from their articles

Solution: Hire me, ffg!!!!