So how do people plan to run these?

I was thinking Quickfire, pred and title but that is already 32 points! Could just have the inquisitor for that!

What ideas do you have?

So how do people plan to run these?

I was thinking Quickfire, pred and title but that is already 32 points! Could just have the inquisitor for that!

What ideas do you have?

yeah, well. The inquisitor doesn't get to shoot before soontir or vader have gotten tokens to defend themselves with. A major motif of Wave 9 is dealing damage before the combat phase. Might as well take advantage of it.

Quickdraw, Rage, Electronic Baffles, maybe TIE mk2, done.

Seems like basically the only one that might be even mid-level competitive, but I'm looking foward to running some of the others anyway because fun.

"Backdraft" with Accuracy Corrector and Sensor Cluster. Use Focus token only for defense, it's as good as evading every round. Shooting out the back at range 2-3 always yields [hit][hit][crit]. I dig.

But I really like starting out with the generics to figure out how they fly. Granted, your maneuvers are completely different if you are "Backdraft" focusing on aft firing arc shots, or "Quickdraw" lining up shots before the target moves. I guess that's all the more reason to practice flying all the different pilots!

EDIT: Ah shoot. I knew that Accuracy Corrector wouldn't work. That's what I get for posting late at night. Drop Accuracy Corrector for Predator and it's almost as good.

"Backdraft" with Accuracy Corrector and Sensor Cluster. Use Focus token only for defense, it's as good as evading every round. Shooting out the back at range 2-3 always yields [hit][hit][crit]. I dig.

But I really like starting out with the generics to figure out how they fly. Granted, your maneuvers are completely different if you are "Backdraft" focusing on aft firing arc shots, or "Quickdraw" lining up shots before the target moves. I guess that's all the more reason to practice flying all the different pilots

Accuracy Corrector does not work that way, I'm afraid.

Shooting out the back at range 2-3 always yields [hit][hit][crit]. I dig.

Actually no.

If you use accuracy corrector, you cancel all results, add two [hit] results, and you are prevented from further modifying your dice again, which includes adding the [crit] result from backdraft's ability.

So far I don't see them being very competetive, so replacing the Inquisitor or Soontir in a tournemanet list, is not likely, unless all those punishing stress mechanics kicks in. But for fun I will try to get them to work with their double blasting ways. I will even try out Expose, that should work on both shoots, so actually start becomming viable.

I like Quickdraw w/ PTL, E-Baffle and Spec-ops Training. You move towards an ace, PLT for focus and target lock and then E-baffle the stress away and you get to shoot before the other ship tokens up or arc-dodges. It is a 33 point build but really hurts aces and can do a lot of damage to lower PS ships too. Of course, you can do this only 3 times per game not taking into account shields lost from being shot at, but still I like the ide a lot.

The Rage build suggested above is cheaper, but leaves you with a stress next turn which limits you to greens, and the SF dial is not very good either.

I think that the Tie/sf will not have any really competitive play, but it can make up for a (potentially) cheap ace killer.

If only you could make it move at PS 0 with Enhanced Scopes and still cause damage on yourself reliably, to use Quickdraw's ability on any ship before it moves.

I go with the Rage option because it's *cheap*. Two points isn't much in the grand scheme of things, but it's rare that you couldn't spend those two points elsewhere in your list, and spending them on something that actively damages itself to acheive its goals seems silly to me.

Not to mention that Rage mods all your shots, whereas PTL mods a mximum of two.

Backdraft is vi FCs for full mods; ps 9

Quickdraw with Draw Their Fire will very rarely be a bad buy.

Damaging yourself to kill a ace sounds good, but very one situational. What would you put along side?

i love how in every SF thread someone goes Accuracy Corrector + Backdraft = OP!!

read the card....and weep. Accuracy Corrector will be great on any OTHER Tie/SF but not Backdraft.

im probably going to run a couple generics with AC specifically because of that. Probably slap in Wired for defensive boost if i do a red move. The PS5 guy doesnt have the unique stamp and you can juuuuust see the edge of an upgrade icon in the same spot of the EPT on the other two, so im pretty sure he has an ept.

i love how in every SF thread someone goes Accuracy Corrector + Backdraft = OP!!

read the card....and weep. Accuracy Corrector will be great on any OTHER Tie/SF but not Backdraft.

im probably going to run a couple generics with AC specifically because of that. Probably slap in Wired for defensive boost if i do a red move. The PS5 guy doesnt have the unique stamp and you can juuuuust see the edge of an upgrade icon in the same spot of the EPT on the other two, so im pretty sure he has an ept.

I know, I know. I even read those other threads, but then I just got all muddled in my thinking. How many does that make, now? Five posts messing that up?

Accuracy Corrector has the potential to be awesome on the generics, and without the evade action I still stand by Sensor Cluster being a cheap defensive upgrade.

It doesn't have a clear role to play other than another ship with a gun. Unlike the other ships in the wave.

> ARC-170 is the new stressbot carrier

> Fenn Rau is the real deal

Quickdraw is great, but Imperials have such high standards. Inquisitor / X7 Defenders / Omega Leader

They have potential in the distant future because of the tech slot. HotR and wave10 have several new tech upgrade cards. At least 1 will be good, hopefully...

Eh

The tiesf has a pretty clear role

QuickDraw is a ps 9 double tap glass cannon of doom redline WISHES he were

Backdraft is a ps 9 better th fully modified auxiliary arc

And generics arent defender tier jousters but they make X-Wings weep with envy

The only thing they don't have is a spot in palp aces

hit has a rear arc

thus it has a role

they can get "trick shots" off a lot easier since they dont need to turn around. Pretend to joust, then dive to the side and rearshot them. Sure they can predict it but yaknow thats kinda the point of everything in this game isnt it? predicting your opponent?

the existence of a rear arc on a ship thats actually VIABLE (stupid firespray) throws a unique shoehorn into people'd minds. Which i am allll about throwing shoehorns into play lol. i rarely ever run standard lists where its literally just "fly straight, roll dice" - theres always some gimick in there or "trick shot"

To be very fair the sf doesn't have an aux arc as much as it has an academy pilot stapled to its back

Ie, two dice primaries are kinda naff (howlrunner and crackshot pending). The same goes for the ARC but it gets stuff like r3-a2, tailgunner and Norra plus a free focus --> CRIT modifier

Granted, it's probably better than nothing but it's not something you should be angling for

Backdraft is the VERY obvious exception with his far-better-than-ATC ability

Hey coolfish, you know the SF stands for Special Forces right? Not Sea Food.

ba-dumtiss!

Damaging yourself to kill a ace sounds good, but very one situational. What would you put along side?

Whisper and Palp. It's good to finally have another decent Imperial semi-ace who actively wants to take initiative to go with Whisper.