Kylo Ren - Old damage deck again?

By IG88E, in X-Wing

So the choice to take the old damage deck is interesting here because of "Weaponary Malfunction" against Dash and Jumpmaster and "Injured Pilot" against most pilots. Am I misssing something? Looks a bit too powerful for me

So the choice to take the old damage deck is interesting here because of "Weaponary Malfunction" against Dash and Jumpmaster and "Injured Pilot" against most pilots. Am I misssing something? Looks a bit too powerful for me

I don't see why a Dash player would want to pick the old damage deck..

Nope, the enemy's deck is used,

so maxium troll is still Oicunnfearing the bumps, Fel with red turns and the like

I don't see where it is written that you use the enemy deck?

Ships are assigned cards from the owner's deck

I see no place where this basic rule is broken.

"When this card is assigned, if it is not already in play, the player who dealt it searches the Damage deck for 1 Damage card with the Pilot trait and may place it faceup on this card. Then shuffle the damage deck.

When you suffer critical damage from an attack, you are instead dealt the chosen faceup Damage card."

It says "player who dealt it searches THE damage deck for 1 damage card"

You must still assign ships cards from it's owner's deck.

as such you break the rule by searching for a card in your own deck, because this card will then be assigned to a ship.

They're not going to expect you to choose a pilot crit from your deck to give to an opposing player. For a start that alters the amount of crits you can get from your own deck and secondly has potential to cause people's decks to get mixed up.

The crit will come from the opposing players deck and will likely encourage people not to use the old damage deck.

So if you have Crew-Kylo you take from your own deck, and if you have Pilot-Kylo you take from opponents deck?

So if you have Crew-Kylo you take from your own deck, and if you have Pilot-Kylo you take from opponents deck?

You always take from the deck that belongs to the player the card gets assigned to.

No exceptions uless explicitly stated otherwise.

"When this card is assigned, if it is not already in play, the player who dealt it searches the Damage deck for 1 Damage card with the Pilot trait and may place it faceup on this card. Then shuffle the damage deck.

When you suffer critical damage from an attack, you are instead dealt the chosen faceup Damage card."

It says "player who dealt it searches THE damage deck for 1 damage card"

You place a face up damage card onto the condition card. At no point ever in the game do you assign your own damage cards to the enemy... they draw from their own deck. Common sense stuff.

"When this card is assigned, if it is not already in play, the player who dealt it searches the Damage deck for 1 Damage card with the Pilot trait and may place it faceup on this card. Then shuffle the damage deck.

When you suffer critical damage from an attack, you are instead dealt the chosen faceup Damage card."

It says "player who dealt it searches THE damage deck for 1 damage card"

You place a face up damage card onto the condition card. At no point ever in the game do you assign your own damage cards to the enemy... they draw from their own deck. Common sense stuff.

How is the Kylo Ren pilot card then resolved?

"The first time you are hit by an attack each round, deal the "I'll Show You the Dark Side" Condition card to the attacker."

How is the Kylo Ren pilot card then resolved?

"The first time you are hit by an attack each round, deal the "I'll Show You the Dark Side" Condition card to the attacker."

You don't deal the condition card, you ASSIGN it... And you do it by giving the Kylo token to your opponent's ship.

So, the first time you are hit, you give the token to the attacker, search through HIS damage deck, take a critical pilot card, put it over the condition card, and next time the ship suffers critical damage, you deal the chosen card face-up instead.

"When this card is assigned, if it is not already in play, the player who dealt it searches the Damage deck for 1 Damage card with the Pilot trait and may place it faceup on this card. Then shuffle the damage deck.

When you suffer critical damage from an attack, you are instead dealt the chosen faceup Damage card."

It says "player who dealt it searches THE damage deck for 1 damage card"

You place a face up damage card onto the condition card. At no point ever in the game do you assign your own damage cards to the enemy... they draw from their own deck. Common sense stuff.

How is the Kylo Ren pilot card then resolved?

"The first time you are hit by an attack each round, deal the "I'll Show You the Dark Side" Condition card to the attacker."

- Enemy Attacks you

- You roll to evade and as usual you roll blanks and are hit

- Because you are hit you trigger Rens ability

- You assign them the Condition card, go through their deck and pick the appropriate face up damage card you want to inflict

- Ren's Pilot ability circumvents the need of an action to assign this condition card.

I am just guessing here, but in Rens turn I believe he can use an action to assign it to someone else who is more likely to be attacked and suffer a critical hit.

If someone would help me out here either way that would be much appreciated.

Edited for terminology.

Edited by Archangelspiv

Thanks for the clarification

I thought players have to use the damage deck from the second core set anyway. Am I wrong?

I thought players have to use the damage deck from the second core set anyway. Am I wrong?