Who the heck is Sabine?

By Supertoe, in X-Wing

You do realize that outside US Netflix is not that big a deal, right? :D

I do realize that. I realize as well that Rebels is most likely not on netflix. But it is such a nice and universal shortcut for "online streaming on service x, y and z, while x being crap, y being illegal and z maybe not avaible in denmark".

Either way the show is avaible on the net via most likely more than a dozen distribution channels and TV is going the way the newspapers and dodos.

AND PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH IT..... get the dvds and poer watch season1 season 2 will be out soon that its only getting better

AND PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH IT..... get the dvds and poer watch season1 season 2 will be out soon that its only getting better

Roll on August 30th !! ;)

Rebels is significantly better than TFA, so

Worst post in the thread. Including all the ones from the OP
He's probably right though, at least as far as characters go. IMO obviously.

The villains (Kallus, Vader and now Thrawn, even the Inquisitors) are miles better than Supreme Leader Snoke and Kylo 'Temper Tantrum' Ren.

Even the Ghost crew is somewhat deeper, more human and less Mary Sue than Rey and Finn.

I will never understand these Mary Sue comments. Only her piloting ability is not explained in the movie but if you read the new EU you will know that she repaired an old flight simulator and learned how to fly with that.

She makes a living by scavaging, taking apart and repairing tech. So she is a mechanic.

Her weapon of choise is a close quaters melee weapon. Thats why she can handle a lightsaber.

And last she appears to be highly force sensitive even though she does not know it. She learns about that when Kylo tries to probe her mind.

So she is a pilot that benefits from being force sensitive. Just like Anakin and Luke.

She is trained with melee weapons and get a buff because she is force sensitive.

She is a mechanic because thats how she earns her living.

She is pretty much Anakin 3.0 with Luke being Anakin 2.0

So she, without any kind of formal training or actual flight experience manages to outfly trained (and actually experienced) pilots in modern fighters by using a several decades old transport just because she spent time in a simulator.

Then, due to being accustomed to a metal (?) staff (whose center of mass is probably close to the middle of the weapon) she manages to best Kylo Ren in a fight using a lightsaber (who, due to having a weightless blade most likely handles very differently than her staff).

Totally not Mary Sue at all.

She is like Anakin when it comes to flying but with extra added training in a simulator.

Kylo does not even want to kill her. He wants to turn her. He is not going all out. And he was badly injured. If he wa snot injured i doubt Rey could have bested him.

Just like with Finn. First Kylo is only toying with him and having a little bit of fun. After Finn strikes him once he nearly offs Finn and leave him to die.

Are you just so blinded by you disliking the movie that you do not see or understand these connections?

I do realize that. I realize as well that Rebels is most likely not on netflix.

Actually, Netflix signed a deal with Disney and they are to be Disney's exclusive online provider. I don't think it's for everything, but I do believe it is to be all the Star Wars stuff. So, if it's not there now, it will be soon.

If you liked The Clone Wars, you should like Star Wars Rebels.

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Isn't rebels that disney show? FFG has sunk that low?

Rebels is significantly better than TFA, so I'd say FFG knows what they're doing.

You aren't even kidding - but then TFA is easily worse than even the prequels (well...okay, Episode II might actually be worse than TFA, but only that one...) so it's not really a high bar to cross.

Okay, I wasn't even going to chime in on this thread, but this is just sheer stupidity. Just the Rey/Finn relationship was better than the entire first crap prequel with that terrible little kid, that horrible long eared thing, and that stupid, cheap-action-attempt pod race. It was one of the worst films I've ever seen.

DARE YOU DENNY THE CUTE?!?!?!

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I will say that I've enjoyed the prequels a lot more once I found a fan mod that I enjoyed. I think it's Fall of the Jedi, but not the ones on YouTube. It removed a lot of the stupid stuff from the movies without butchering the whole thing.

I will say that I've enjoyed the prequels a lot more once I found a fan mod that I enjoyed. I think it's Fall of the Jedi, but not the ones on YouTube. It removed a lot of the stupid stuff from the movies without butchering the whole thing.

The Anti-Cheese versions right? They are way better.

;)

Seapocalypse: No, thats why I don't think many have the Disney Channel, my kids don't have it, nor Netflix. Also they are to young to be let loose on the internet, so no Sabine for them. I have watched a few Rebels episodes due to currently working with Star Wars storyboarding, its alright, but nothing I actively seek out.

Anyways, just wanted to point out there could be reasons why people don't know the Rebel show or its characters.

so you know who Sabine is ... your kids if they play x-wing then they use yours (i guess they dont buy their own) and I bet if you didn't know who Sabine was you would google her.

And people you should watch Rebel its actually great stuff

Sabine is likely my (7 on friday!) Daughter's gateway into X-wing.

While, a TIE Fighter of all things is NOT what I would put as a rebel ship in a wave personally, I do have a use for it.

I will say that I've enjoyed the prequels a lot more once I found a fan mod that I enjoyed. I think it's Fall of the Jedi, but not the ones on YouTube. It removed a lot of the stupid stuff from the movies without butchering the whole thing.

The Anti-Cheese versions right? They are way better.

;)

They:

  • cut out anything Jar Jar Binks says or does that's stupid, which is 80-90%, but he's still there, which is good.
  • R2-D2 is not in the movie. There is an astromech, but it's not identified as him.
  • Anakin didn't make C3PO.
  • Pod Race cut in half, and it's still pretty long.
  • They cut out the bit where Sabulba breaks things on Anakin's pods, which makes it look instead like a 6 yr old built a pod and it's sketchy, which is actually way cooler.
  • Extra bits that are confusing about the plot are just taken out. So, streamlined.

And that's just the first movie. While there is only so much that they can cut out about the bad romance between Anakin and Padme, they actually did a decent job with it. Overall, I found it a much more enjoyable trilogy this way.

I will say that I've enjoyed the prequels a lot more once I found a fan mod that I enjoyed. I think it's Fall of the Jedi, but not the ones on YouTube. It removed a lot of the stupid stuff from the movies without butchering the whole thing.

The Anti-Cheese versions right? They are way better.

;)

They:

  • cut out anything Jar Jar Binks says or does that's stupid, which is 80-90%, but he's still there, which is good.
  • R2-D2 is not in the movie. There is an astromech, but it's not identified as him.
  • Anakin didn't make C3PO.
  • Pod Race cut in half, and it's still pretty long.
  • They cut out the bit where Sabulba breaks things on Anakin's pods, which makes it look instead like a 6 yr old built a pod and it's sketchy, which is actually way cooler.
  • Extra bits that are confusing about the plot are just taken out. So, streamlined.

And that's just the first movie. While there is only so much that they can cut out about the bad romance between Anakin and Padme, they actually did a decent job with it. Overall, I found it a much more enjoyable trilogy this way.

Just think Anakin used a jedi mind trick to make Padme love him..... it helps understand he was way more fü*#ed up then you thought. and it would emplane why her hotness fell for a child dork

Fall of the Jedi, huh? I did know that someone in Hollywood did a 3-hour cut of all three movies to illustrate Anakin's slow slide, and I was afraid I'd have to do it myself. Gotta look that **** up now.

I will never understand these Mary Sue comments.

She is literally the definition of Mary Sue: the character is not challenged by anything. That would be why people keep mentioning it.

From a literary perspective, she is an astoundingly bad character.

Good thing this isn't literature, but just another episode of Space Wizards with Laser Swords.

basically the pretty face of rebels far as im concerned. Least its not a Twi'lek people are gawking over this time lol.

Also, if we ever get that orange Bwing theres no way its 16pts. Its literally just another Bwing unless they try to factor in that weapon somehow, which would probably be an entirely "new" ship with low attack and a free title that severely amplifies the attack if it hits.

Well when going from TIE Advanced to TIE Advanced Prototype it is 1 less hull and goes down to 14 points. So for the B-wing to Prototype B6 how about 1 less hull and 1 less shield (make it a 2 hull 4 shield ship) and swap out the system slot for a crew slot. Still has 3 firepower, 1 agility, the cannon slot and 2x torpedoe slots. Adjust the dial (remove 1 hard turns, make 2 hard red, replace 2k with the 3k) and wollah a new B-wing that is worth 16 points and is scared of proton bombs and AHM.

Why TIE FIghter for the Rebels? What about the B-wing prototype? :( I WANT MY 16 point ORANGE B-WING FFG! :P

P.S. She's the blue haired one firing the superlaser.

Good lord. I wasn't far wrong when I said Rebels is like really bad fanfiction. That's absolutely terrible.

B-Wings are anti-capital ship weapons. Why do people still not get this?

It's not like it's an indestructible fighter capable of blowing up solar systems and written by Kevin J Anderson. It's just a prototype B-Wing with a big gun.

As for the cannon I was thinking of a unique B-wing Prototype B6 only card for 10 points known as Super Laser Composite Beam Weapon. 3 Firepower Attack [Focus] Spend your focus token and discard this card to perform this attack. If this attack hits cancel all results and deal 5 face up damage cards to the defender.

So if this was a thing (hmmm... might make a new house rule kit.) in the meta it would be nothing more than a Palp Assassin. But again that is an 10 point upgrade to remove a 8 point upgrade. Well looking at ships. 26 points to remove 29 points okay I can see where that is a decent trade. But then again that 26 points has a few more weaknesses. It would be like the spy in stratego, sure it can kill the marshal but it dies to everything else.

Push the Limit Keyan taking Focus + TL would make it sort of monstrous. Basically anything without a token stack is probably getting blown the **** up.

Edited by Zefirus

She is MaREY Sue's cousin. 16 years old with decades of EOD experience/training and a doctorates in astrophysics. She has her pilot licenses for a multitude of military, civilian, prototype and assorted spacecraft. Is rated an armorer for Mandolorian arms and armor. In her free time she sells artwork on Etsy and deviant art and rebuilt her old Man('s) DeLorean.

DARE YOU DENNY THE CUTE?!?!?!

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Who is "Denny the Cute"? And what exactly are you daring Denny to do?

Why TIE FIghter for the Rebels? What about the B-wing prototype? :( I WANT MY 16 point Prototype B6 FFG! (aka the Orange B-wing with the suprelaser) :P

P.S. She's the blue haired one firing the superlaser composite beam weapon.

To be honest, I'd be fine with the Prototype coming out laser and all: if it is appropriately costed point-wise. Say 33 points for the base fighter, with laser as a costly one-shot ten-die addon weapon: overkill for fighters, good for use in Epic.

From a lore perspective, they probably did away with the superlaser B-wings for the same reason they cut down on TIE-Defender production: cost. That single prototype is years worth of work and probably many thousands of credits more than a viable production model, all for a close-range bomber with no hyperdrive.

It worked once, with the element of surprise and an ace crew; in the long run and with regular rebel mooks, it would just be too costly a target to deploy on a regular basis. TIE swarms would eat it before it could close the distance.

Well it is a prototype, so lower the stats , maybe make it another 2 hull ship which gives it weakness to proton bombs and AHMs. Also knock the shields down too so it is only a 6 hit point ship not an 8 hit point ship. Then you can also knock the points down. Since you don't want a B-wing swarm follow the trend of making all 4 pilots unique.

So a Unique Pilot prototype B-6 lets start at 18 point for pilot skill 3 and it goes up to 22 points for pilot skill 7.

Rebels is significantly better than TFA, so

Worst post in the thread. Including all the ones from the OP
He's probably right though, at least as far as characters go. IMO obviously.

The villains (Kallus, Vader and now Thrawn, even the Inquisitors) are miles better than Supreme Leader Snoke and Kylo 'Temper Tantrum' Ren.

Even the Ghost crew is somewhat deeper, more human and less Mary Sue than Rey and Finn.

I will never understand these Mary Sue comments. Only her piloting ability is not explained in the movie but if you read the new EU you will know that she repaired an old flight simulator and learned how to fly with that.

She makes a living by scavaging, taking apart and repairing tech. So she is a mechanic.

Her weapon of choise is a close quaters melee weapon. Thats why she can handle a lightsaber.

And last she appears to be highly force sensitive even though she does not know it. She learns about that when Kylo tries to probe her mind.

So she is a pilot that benefits from being force sensitive. Just like Anakin and Luke.

She is trained with melee weapons and get a buff because she is force sensitive.

She is a mechanic because thats how she earns her living.

She is pretty much Anakin 3.0 with Luke being Anakin 2.0

So she, without any kind of formal training or actual flight experience manages to outfly trained (and actually experienced) pilots in modern fighters by using a several decades old transport just because she spent time in a simulator.

Then, due to being accustomed to a metal (?) staff (whose center of mass is probably close to the middle of the weapon) she manages to best Kylo Ren in a fight using a lightsaber (who, due to having a weightless blade most likely handles very differently than her staff).

Totally not Mary Sue at all.

Then there's her duel with Kylo where he captures her? Or the second one where after he's been shot and just chopped through Finn, the awakening force sensitive bests an emotionally compromised guy who's injured and just killed his own dad. And he liked his dad.

Rey isn't a Mary Sue, she experiences loss, and failures. People around her are better, and all she is able to do is support them.

Like, other than get Kylo at the end, what does she do? Accompany BB-8? Fix a ship? Get captured?

Why TIE FIghter for the Rebels? What about the B-wing prototype? :( I WANT MY 16 point Prototype B6 FFG! (aka the Orange B-wing with the suprelaser) :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA3o_UpFn7E

P.S. She's the blue haired one firing the superlaser composite beam weapon.

To be honest, I'd be fine with the Prototype coming out laser and all: if it is appropriately costed point-wise. Say 33 points for the base fighter, with laser as a costly one-shot ten-die addon weapon: overkill for fighters, good for use in Epic.

From a lore perspective, they probably did away with the superlaser B-wings for the same reason they cut down on TIE-Defender production: cost. That single prototype is years worth of work and probably many thousands of credits more than a viable production model, all for a close-range bomber with no hyperdrive.

It worked once, with the element of surprise and an ace crew; in the long run and with regular rebel mooks, it would just be too costly a target to deploy on a regular basis. TIE swarms would eat it before it could close the distance.

Well it is a prototype, so lower the stats , maybe make it another 2 hull ship which gives it weakness to proton bombs and AHMs. Also knock the shields down too so it is only a 6 hit point ship not an 8 hit point ship. Then you can also knock the points down. Since you don't want a B-wing swarm follow the trend of making all 4 pilots unique.

So a Unique Pilot prototype B-6 lets start at 18 point for pilot skill 3 and it goes up to 22 points for pilot skill 7.

Why would it have less hull? One would think maybe shields would be less, and a worse/different dial, but not weaker hull since it looks to be the exact same hull wise. If sanything it might even have an etra hull, or just a regular crew slot instead of having o have the E2 mod for it, since Sabine is in the gun on the wing tip.

As for the dial, maybe some more reds, and maybe a different move here or there since Hera did fly that thing like cray around all the mesas and rock formations of the planet.

Awful pacing, complete lack of suspense, ships that don't bother to fire on the enemy except once every 30 seconds, ships that fly toward each other for 3 minutes yet never seem to make any progress, a tiny ass shuttle smaller than a TIE Fighter that is somehow not only hyperdrive-equipped but can also carry another ship through hyperspace, that other ship being a B-Wing that for some (convenient) reason has a laser capable of one-shot-ing a ship hundreds of times its size...

This is why I don't believe anyone when they tell me the show is actually good. It has, what, decent animation and bright colors?

"Sir an unknown ship dropped out of hyperspace! Sir the unknown ship is coming right at us!"

Do you:

A) Shoot the unknown ship out of the sky

B) Command your TIE Fighters to do it for you, or

C) Squint at it and hope it goes away

Edited by ObiWonka