This is NO different than how X-wing started. FFG exhausted canon material before introducing EU ships to the game at all. Now that we have new canon material to work with, it's only natural that it takes priority over EU ships, of which there are precious few worthwhile at this stage, anyway.
Edited by MarekMandaloreHave we seen the end of EU ships in X-wing?
Rebels seems to like EU stuff.
We may yet get lucky in seeing the scurrg, though the assault gunboat I would struggle to fit into the plotline as easily - unless, perhaps, they showed up as a Shipment Of Spare Firepower with an officer who arrived in a lambda (to help drive the iconography home, see).
It's not insane, anyway. Though hthey'l probably be repainted slightly.
Why the HH-87 was not chosen for scum small base yet is insane. It just screams scum to anyone who has seen ROTJ even if they never saw rebels.
Is that a movie still ...that number 13 thing?
Is that a movie still ...that number 13 thing?
Yup. Less screen time then the Quadjumper, but because reasons, that still makes it an infinitely better pick then any well known and established EU ships.
Edited by weisguy119Did you catch ET in the prequels?Four seconds of screen time means the Quadjumper is literally millions of times more recognizable than the gunboat everyone is always talking about on these forums. How many people saw The Force Awakens? Now, how many people are familiar with the EU and, more specifically, the gunboat? I don't know the numbers but my vague math tells me the Quadjumper is an infinitely more marketable product. Something tells me FFG's marketing analysts told them the same thing. Personally, I'd rather have a ton of EU ships before anything in waves 9 & 10 but I understand marketing and why it's not happening.
No? What does that do to your argument?
Ps: ET crew pilot now
What EU ships are left that are more relevant than current cannon?
What EU ships are left that are more relevant than current cannon?
That's just me though. I'd rather have 5-10 pages of EU lore to read about a new ship than half a page of 'this is a tug' and 4 seconds of movie.
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In my opinion every EU ship with a story to tell is more relevant than something like the Quadjumper.What EU ships are left that are more relevant than current cannon?
That's just me though. I'd rather have 5-10 pages of EU lore to read about a new ship than half a page of 'this is a tug' and 4 seconds of movie.
The Quadjumper absolutely has stories to tell. You're just in before the stories this time. Imagine the only information you had on the A-Wing was Return of the Jedi . Sure, they got more screen time than the Quadjumper. Despite having seen the movie, I wasn't really aware it was a thing until I saw it in games.
In my opinion every EU ship with a story to tell is more relevant than something like the Quadjumper.What EU ships are left that are more relevant than current cannon?
That's just me though. I'd rather have 5-10 pages of EU lore to read about a new ship than half a page of 'this is a tug' and 4 seconds of movie.
The Quadjumper absolutely has stories to tell. You're just in before the stories this time. Imagine the only information you had on the A-Wing was Return of the Jedi . Sure, they got more screen time than the Quadjumper. Despite having seen the movie, I wasn't really aware it was a thing until I saw it in games.
Maybe, maybe not. Is there any guarantee the Quadjumper will be used in other stories?
In my opinion every EU ship with a story to tell is more relevant than something like the Quadjumper.What EU ships are left that are more relevant than current cannon?
That's just me though. I'd rather have 5-10 pages of EU lore to read about a new ship than half a page of 'this is a tug' and 4 seconds of movie.
The Quadjumper absolutely has stories to tell. You're just in before the stories this time. Imagine the only information you had on the A-Wing was Return of the Jedi . Sure, they got more screen time than the Quadjumper. Despite having seen the movie, I wasn't really aware it was a thing until I saw it in games.
Maybe, maybe not. Is there any guarantee the Quadjumper will be used in other stories?
Nope! I guess we'll have to burn everything down.
It depends on what Disney puts in the EU. Now Disney has been more of revising the old EU, (Dark Forces, Shadows of the Empire, Empire at War ect..) with their movies and cartoons. After all they did put G Admiral Thrawn back in the cannon. So EU is not dead, it is just slowly getting reintegrated. Although the Vong is out, they're pretty much dead to existence. Good bye Yuzzahan Vong!
In my opinion every EU ship with a story to tell is more relevant than something like the Quadjumper.What EU ships are left that are more relevant than current cannon?
That's just me though. I'd rather have 5-10 pages of EU lore to read about a new ship than half a page of 'this is a tug' and 4 seconds of movie.
The Quadjumper absolutely has stories to tell. You're just in before the stories this time. Imagine the only information you had on the A-Wing was Return of the Jedi . Sure, they got more screen time than the Quadjumper. Despite having seen the movie, I wasn't really aware it was a thing until I saw it in games.
Maybe, maybe not. Is there any guarantee the Quadjumper will be used in other stories?
Nope! I guess we'll have to burn everything down.
Or maybe just use ships that did stuff in Universe that's more interesting than 'sit in a field for 4 seconds until blown up' ?
The EU isn't dead. Stuff from the EU continues to be referenced and used by Disney.
Don't believe me? Thrawn.
Also, Dark Troopers.
In my opinion every EU ship with a story to tell is more relevant than something like the Quadjumper.What EU ships are left that are more relevant than current cannon?
That's just me though. I'd rather have 5-10 pages of EU lore to read about a new ship than half a page of 'this is a tug' and 4 seconds of movie.
The Quadjumper absolutely has stories to tell. You're just in before the stories this time. Imagine the only information you had on the A-Wing was Return of the Jedi . Sure, they got more screen time than the Quadjumper. Despite having seen the movie, I wasn't really aware it was a thing until I saw it in games.
Maybe, maybe not. Is there any guarantee the Quadjumper will be used in other stories?
Yes there is, because I will be putting it on the table and telling stories with it!
But in all seriousness, I appreciate and share your love for the lore of the EU. What makes Star Wars, Star Wars is the way in which the details that make the universe seem like a lived in place all have their own story to tell. It's a collaborative process. We play with the toys, create adventures for the RPGs, run amazing "what if" scenarios in miniatures games. But we also watch as more stories fill in the details through other media. You clearly love that about Star Wars, and I share that love, and the people who are making Star Wars share that love to. They're inviting you to make space in your galaxy for new things. The unassuming Quadjumper will show up in some adventure yet, one way or another.
In my opinion every EU ship with a story to tell is more relevant than something like the Quadjumper.What EU ships are left that are more relevant than current cannon?
That's just me though. I'd rather have 5-10 pages of EU lore to read about a new ship than half a page of 'this is a tug' and 4 seconds of movie.
I only ever saw a single painting of the JM5k and as much as I like the ships aesthetic, the Tug is WAY more Star Wars to me than that ship will ever be.
I guess it comes down to whether you think the EU is a valid source to keep pulling from. For the most part, I am personally glad it's behind us, no more random ships that many of us need to Google...
FFG can use Ep7+ material and old EU.
FFG can use Ep7+ material and old EU.
They can also collaborate and invent brand new ships.
That's direction I'd like to see them continue in.
The raider is better than anything left in the EU and watt better than anything I've seen in this new fangled canon cartoon show.
FFG can use Ep7+ material and old EU.
They can also collaborate and invent brand new ships.
That's direction I'd like to see them continue in.
The raider is better than anything left in the EU and watt better than anything I've seen in this new fangled canon cartoon show.
FFG inventing ships isn't all that impressive if nobody else picks them up. It would be really cool to see a Raider on screen.
I'm hoping the new Star Wars this year will have better designs. There has to be other designers almost as good as McQuarrie out there...
Maybe, maybe not. Is there any guarantee the Quadjumper will be used in other stories?
Thanks! I've been trying to think up an idea for a Star Wars short story recently and as soon as I read your post it got me thinking about uses for the quadjumper. I think I can make an excellent pirate ship out of them. This is going to be fun.
As long as the producers, designers, directors and writers keep throwing in their favorite ships they grew-up on, the end is far away.
They pull ideas from things they've watched or played. I think we will get most of the 'cool' EU...I mean E-New, ships that gets published. FFG needs to put out about 4-5 ships a year (IMO) to keep it fresh. Even with all the new movies/stories/media coming out in the next decade I believe many beloved EU ships will make into X-wing. I'm pretty sure we are set-up good for some awesome ships that appeared in the now non-canon material.
(We can it the "E-New"- it's been approved.)
Yes, and NO.Ah, yes, the sky is falling. There are no EU ships in this wave thusly there will never be any EU ships ever again.
Maybe you should go back and read the OP before you dub me chicken little. I gave several reasons for my theory, not just a lack of EU ships in Wave 10. I have expanded on these arguments below.
1. Out of the last three waves, 9 out of the last 11 ships have been TFA or Rebels. The only two that weren't (G1a and Jumpmaster) where part of an effort started in wave 6 to get all of the bounty hunters shown in The Empire Strikes Back onto the table. We now have ships for all of the original bounty hunters.
2. Two of the three ships from Wave 10 (specifically the quad jumper and Sabine's tie) have little to no reference material for the designers to go off of; they seem to have beat out other contenders for inclusion in X-wing solely on the merit of having seen screen time (no matter how limited).
3. A fair argument could be made that points 1 and 2 can be attributed to FFG exhausting the pool of viable EU ships. I believe the Wave V Armada release disproves this argument, as they clearly had a wide list of capital ships from which to draw, but chose ships from Rebels.
I am by no means opining for a plummeting troposphere, but am merely interested to hear other people's take on whether we will see further EU ships.
Look to Rebels season 3. Thrawn was drawn out of the spiraling depths of the EU due to popular demand. So yes, Thrawn is pulled out of the EU, but Thrawn is now Cannon. Anything Thrawn does in season 3 will be cannon.
Likewise, The assault gunboat could be brought back in the same fashion. (like what they did with the YT-2400.... sort of.)
So far, all we know is that a character of the same name and likeness from the original creator is set to appear in Season 3. This character may be the one we know and love as fans of the EU (Legends) version or he may be an entirely new individual that we will have to get to know.
I think it's a bit premature to say Thrawn is back until we get to see him in action. Though I have to admit, I'll be disappointed if he is too different because that will likely mean no Pellaeon or Chimera.
No more EU ships for Rebels and Imperials? Maybe. No more for scum? No way. As far as I know, they are out of scum ships from rebels or TFA, and rogue one isn't likely to give us anymore.
No more EU ships for Rebels and Imperials? Maybe. No more for scum? No way. As far as I know, they are out of scum ships from rebels or TFA, and rogue one isn't likely to give us anymore.
Before the wave 10 spoilers I would have agreed with you. Now, I would argue that they *were* out of scum and rebel ships, and that they pulled the quad-jumper and Sabine's Tie out of their fourth point of contact. Surely there are enough ships exclusive to the new comics and the Rebels TV show to keep X-wing busy for the foreseeable future without FFG being "forced" back into the EU? There's a post on page 4 by Patox with no less than 12 ships from the new "E-New" which haven't been released yet.