With the previews of Wave 10 up, I believe that my suspicions have been confirmed true; it seems very likely that FFG is done releasing EU ships for X-wing. This is the second consecutive wave where the only new ships have been from the Rebels TV show, or the new movies. It's hard to argue against this when we now have the quad-jumper tug boat, whose single qualification for inclusion in X-wing is 2-3 seconds of screen time in TFA.

To those of you who would argue that FFG has simply run out new ships to model, take a look at the new Armada ships as well. As a (relatively) new game, Armada has probably hundreds of untapped capital ships from the EU, some of which are very iconic or extremely recognizable. Instead, they got two capital ships which aired in Rebels.

Anyone think differently? I would love to be proven wrong, as I grew up reading books from the EU and have little to no attachment to Rebels.

well, the UPS could be a great choice for EU

...oh we're not talking about the upgrade

Ah, yes, the sky is falling. There are no EU ships in this wave thusly there will never be any EU ships ever again.

Well they don't have many more to release anyway.

Don't they have to get Disney to bless the EU ships they would want to put in the games? Rebels' and the new film's stuff they can use automatically because it's all part of the new canon.

Maybe FFG is sticking to canon ships, maybe they're not. The important part is WE'RE GETTING NEW STAR WARS.

New Star Wars means new characters and ships seen onscreen. It means that people's imaginations are being sparked and wanting to play in that universe. Whether or not you personally like the new material, do you honestly expect FFG to NOT make ships that appear on screen and are recognizable to current Star Wars fans, regardless of age?

Maybe FFG is sticking to canon ships, maybe they're not. The important part is WE'RE GETTING NEW STAR WARS.

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and while Armada might be getting the Pelta and the...thing Hera's B-wing blew up, they're also getting EU favorites in the Z/E Phantom and Defender AND the deci

Let's just say that there will be more new ships from new movies and tv shows than there will be EU ships. Then again....maybe some ships from the EU will make it into the new movies and tv shows.

Like everything else, it is about balance and profitability.

Old EU- You get the fans who know the ships and characters, but may lose out the younger/newer players who don't know it quite as well and won't be as excited/buy as many.

New Canon- You can strike while the iron is hot, by making ships that players just saw in a movie/show six months ago. It can generate new players by giving those that enjoy the show/movie a starting point.

Doesn't mean its a bad or good thing, but it is a major factor in FFG/Disney's thinking and process.

Personally, I think we'll see some of the EU ships in Rebels/the spin-off movies- maybe slightly modified or changed. Gives Disney a way to connect with all the old fans and update some slightly older aesthetics. Whether or not we'll get EU ships in X-wing general depends on how many Waves per year FFG is planning. One or two, I can see very little/no EU ships as Rebels/new movies can possibly keep up. More than that, they'll need some EU stuff to fill in.

Whether or not you personally like the new material, do you honestly expect FFG to NOT make ships that appear on screen and are recognizable to current Star Wars fans, regardless of age?

Do you genuinely think the Quadjumper is recognizable? That if you showed a Star Wars fan just the model he'll immediately be able to say 'this is a Quadjumper'? The ship appears on screen for the grand total of about 4 seconds, and never up close.

Moreover,the ship largely doesn't exist outside the movie either. If you go to wookiepedia to look for a given EU ship from the game, you usually get a significant amount of more-or-less memorable stories.

I went to wookiepedia after reading the wave 10 article and it seems the only memorable thing a Quadjumper has done in universe to date is being blown up while Rey and Finn were running towards it.

Whether or not you personally like the new material, do you honestly expect FFG to NOT make ships that appear on screen and are recognizable to current Star Wars fans, regardless of age?

Do you genuinely think the Quadjumper is recognizable? That if you showed a Star Wars fan just the model he'll immediately be able to say 'this is a Quadjumper'? The ship appears on screen for the grand total of about 4 seconds, and never up close.

and yet...we all recognized it

weird how that works, eh?

About as recognizable as a lot of the remaining EU ships.

Many of those old EU stories were told based on things that had even less screen time than the Quadjumper! It takes time to develop the lore and tell the stories behind the objects you see on screen. The scene with the Quadjumper is iconic (because of the Falcon, for sure), and it's exactly the sort of background detail that inspires the imagination and gets the type of person who would be interested in Xwing asking questions.

Personally, I got the Incredible Cross Sections book right after watching the movie to find out more about that ill-fated ship, and spent some time thinking about how it might be integrated into the game. I'm excited that it is

The EU is dead. Disney killed it.

No Assault Gunboat, ever.

The EU is dead. Disney killed it.

No Assault Gunboat, ever.

Unless the mouse personally came into your home and burned all of your books, comics, etc, then the EU isn't dead. They just made space to tell stories that weren't absolutely meaningless.

Quite possibly no more EU ships, since a lot of new stuff will be coming up in the TV show and movies.

But..... on the other hand... Disney is bringing back EU stuff into canon. Case in point: Thrawn and the HWK. So, don't lose hope yet for your favorite EU ships, I suppose.

Rebel's is recycling some EU tech and characters. Rogue One/TFA has produced only a handful of ships to be used, you're not getting much out of the new canon after a handful of waves.

As for EU ships, there are a few dozen ships they can still use, from XJ3s to Invid Clutches, to Assault Gunboats or Skipray Blastboats. The likely hood of FFG swinging to one direction is unlikely, but it's obvious they want more new ships to stay relevant to current mass-marketing. Even if all of the new designs are re-used or garbage.

Whether or not you personally like the new material, do you honestly expect FFG to NOT make ships that appear on screen and are recognizable to current Star Wars fans, regardless of age?

Do you genuinely think the Quadjumper is recognizable? That if you showed a Star Wars fan just the model he'll immediately be able to say 'this is a Quadjumper'? The ship appears on screen for the grand total of about 4 seconds, and never up close.

and yet...we all recognized it

weird how that works, eh?

Fickle, are you a Stormtrooper by any chance? Because you totally missed my point.

We all recognized the ship, but from an article that contained largely all the known information about it: it's calked a Quadjumper, it appeared in The Force Awakens and it got blown up on the ground at the spaceport.

I asked something else entirely: if you showed just the model to a Star Wars fan, or he walked past an X-wing table with the model onit, qould he recognize it as a Quadjumper? For me that qualifies a ship as recognizable.

Well, by that definition, anyone who hasn't played the old video games won't recognize the EU ships, either. And like it or not, that is a large majority of Star Wars fans...

I have to think we'll see more EU ships resurface as the stories find places that need them. And, yes, some of the stuff that should remain buried probably will. We'll just have to be patient, and see which ones make the cut.

Whether or not you personally like the new material, do you honestly expect FFG to NOT make ships that appear on screen and are recognizable to current Star Wars fans, regardless of age?

Do you genuinely think the Quadjumper is recognizable? That if you showed a Star Wars fan just the model he'll immediately be able to say 'this is a Quadjumper'? The ship appears on screen for the grand total of about 4 seconds, and never up close.

and yet...we all recognized it

weird how that works, eh?

Fickle, are you a Stormtrooper by any chance? Because you totally missed my point.

We all recognized the ship, but from an article that contained largely all the known information about it: it's calked a Quadjumper, it appeared in The Force Awakens and it got blown up on the ground at the spaceport.

I asked something else entirely: if you showed just the model to a Star Wars fan, or he walked past an X-wing table with the model onit, qould he recognize it as a Quadjumper? For me that qualifies a ship as recognizable.

I wouldn't until I see that movie, chances are I'd forget about it. Much like how Nym's Havoc was forgotten despite being an incredible bomber.

The EU is stagnant. Disney stunted its growth.

No Assault Gunboat, ever.

FTFY.

As for the OP's question, I'm sure we'll see some EU stuff at some point, but not in the near future with all the movies coming out.

Whether or not you personally like the new material, do you honestly expect FFG to NOT make ships that appear on screen and are recognizable to current Star Wars fans, regardless of age?

Do you genuinely think the Quadjumper is recognizable? That if you showed a Star Wars fan just the model he'll immediately be able to say 'this is a Quadjumper'? The ship appears on screen for the grand total of about 4 seconds, and never up close.

and yet...we all recognized it

weird how that works, eh?

Speak for yourself, I didn't recognize it. I had to read the article to remember what it was.

I asked something else entirely: if you showed just the model to a Star Wars fan, or he walked past an X-wing table with the model onit, qould he recognize it as a Quadjumper? For me that qualifies a ship as recognizable.

I wouldn't until I see that movie, chances are I'd forget about it. Much like how Nym's Havoc was forgotten despite being an incredible bomber.

Yes, people in the 80s are very mature, this is why they whine and moan every time their fake binkie doesn't get given to them right away.

I asked something else entirely: if you showed just the model to a Star Wars fan, or he walked past an X-wing table with the model onit, qould he recognize it as a Quadjumper? For me that qualifies a ship as recognizable.

I wouldn't until I see that movie, chances are I'd forget about it. Much like how Nym's Havoc was forgotten despite being an incredible bomber.

Yes, people in the 80s are very mature, this is why they whine and moan every time their fake binkie doesn't get given to them right away.

Still mad about that Patriarchy or lax work ethic? It's ok to be jelly, it's not like talent skipped a generation.

I think going forward there won`t be any more old EU things. I am glad the game came out when it did and we have all the things we have. Had the game been released a few years later we would NEVER see the more interesting things we have now.

That being said....the new era of constant star wars material is a reality. and that is where everything will be comming from from now on. Jumpmaster and the misthunter were the last of that breed of ship that comes from a time when many people were comming up with ideas for ships.

ill call the ghost the first of the "back in my day star wars stuff didn`t look like that" ships. and since then everything has been new material. .... ghost....tap...fang...tie/sf....romulan starship....arc170(close but still new)......quadrislump....new falcon...new poe...sabines plot piece.....kylos batmobile.....

thats 11 ships from newland since the new core set so really add 2 more the t70 and FO.

13 and the only exception being jumps and misthunters wich would have had to already been in the development stages at the time of force awakens so they were able to squek into the game under the wire.

so...is it good or bad? i don`t know yet. So far its been not that interesting to me...a grumpy old man ...but im still buying them and still playing them. If the kids these days ever come up with a ship design I actually like i`ll be that much happier.

As far as nothing leftin the old EU to draw from...I don`t know about that either. never read any of it. I suppose the only real loss here is the gunboat. and people that love it. I don`t care for it at all....but i get that people like it.

Is it better to be a `never was` with this game so we can forever have fun bickering about it? or should it be released and be born a piece of x-wing gaming hysteria brough to life? I`m fine either way.