I hadn't heard of Conan: Rise of Monsters before, I'll have to take a peek at that one. Not sure that Reaper is a company that I'd expect to make an industrial-strength balanced competitive rules system but stranger things have happened.

You mean like GW listening to it's costumers and developing a point system for AoS?

I don't know how big the involvment of Reaper is in the Conan game, the people who made it (don't know the their name right now) already tried their luck at Kickstarter but ended the campaign early for whatever reason and now with the help of Reaper they will try again, but as I said I don't know what Reaper is doing for them, the miniatures didn't seem to have changed and we still haven't seen the quality of their prepaint.

Yeah, I looked it up and it's not Reaper doing the rules, it's some company I've never heard of named Pulposaurus. Not feeling too optimistic about this one, and having failed their first Kickstarter isn't very inspiring either. Whether their prepaint quality is any good or not, I highly suspect the game itself will not be that good.

Please, please, please FFG, listen to the people make it pre-painted! it could be awesome!!!

Agreed..as someone with limited time and loves the FF games and rules...please make this a pre-painted game...if not I will have to pass.

I highly doubt they could change it at this time if they wanted to. Even if they somehow could, it would delay the game by quite a long time and jack up the price which of course has already been communicated to distributors, etc... So yeah, all sorts of reasons this isn't doable.

Yeah, I looked it up and it's not Reaper doing the rules, it's some company I've never heard of named Pulposaurus. Not feeling too optimistic about this one, and having failed their first Kickstarter isn't very inspiring either. Whether their prepaint quality is any good or not, I highly suspect the game itself will not be that good.

Paraphrased from their FB page, Reaper is involved only with minis to lower the buy-in cost of the KS sets.

The price was the biggest issue of concern with their previous effort to launch the line.

Yeah, I looked it up and it's not Reaper doing the rules, it's some company I've never heard of named Pulposaurus. Not feeling too optimistic about this one, and having failed their first Kickstarter isn't very inspiring either. Whether their prepaint quality is any good or not, I highly suspect the game itself will not be that good.

Paraphrased from their FB page, Reaper is involved only with minis to lower the buy-in cost of the KS sets.

The price was the biggest issue of concern with their previous effort to launch the line.

Good to know but if i look at this i have to say im not really impressed with the miniatures or the paint job, but it could be still work in progress.

Has someone seen pictures or playthrough from GenCon?

Yup..will be watching that. Can't add another non-prepainted game. Got enough with Tanks, AOS, Malifuax, Guildball, and Warmachine.

Please, please, please FFG, listen to the people make it pre-painted! it could be awesome!!!

Except for those of us, you know, who are thrilled they're making in unpainted..

The paint job would look like garbage on units like that anyway. The X-Wing ships are barely passable and are more forgiving since they're vehicles.

Plus, I already don't plan on keeping with their color schemes.

I'm so glad this isn't going to be pre-painted. I can deal with unpainted minis. I can't deal with poorly painted minis. Crappy pre-paintjobs kill games for me. I'd much rather have an unpainted mini with the potential for a nice paint job than enduring someone (or something) else's horrible paintjob for my army. I've never seen a pre-painted infantry style miniature that I thought looked ok. TIE Fighters and X-Wings are one thing. A unit of undead archers is another.

There are different quality on prepainted miniatures, take a look to Tokaido miniatures of deluxe edition. Those miniatures look awesome and are not poorly hand painted in China. It can be done, and could be amazing.

If we judge them pre-painting them as they have the armada and x- wing ships then certainly they would look decent enough for me as I think there ships are nice.

There are different quality on prepainted miniatures, take a look to Tokaido miniatures of deluxe edition. Those miniatures look awesome and are not poorly hand painted in China. It can be done, and could be amazing.

If you are talking about those , yes they look ok but i still see no shadows or highlights on them.

EDIT: If these are the miniatures of the game and not customer painted one they are looking better than the ones from the KS page.

EDIT 2: But ships and infantry miniatures are quite different, as i and others said i thin you have to put more time in the prepaint of a infantryman than a starfighter to get it look decent.

I don't need shadows or highlights, just a plain painting, something more visual than a not painted miniature. For those people with skills to make a good job painting you can re-paint the pre-painted miniatures, like people do with X-Wing or Armada. Open the box and be able to play with painted miniatures would be awesome.

If it came with pre-painted minis the game would be $200+ instead of $100 and that would price out a LOT of potential customers.

I'm 100% ok with it not be pre-painted, if I want it painted I'll just hire someone to paint them up the way I like.

I could see them doing some sort of "Fantasy Flight Collector" series, like they did with the Arkham Horror character and monster collections. For those who don't mind the extra cost, maybe they could do like a paint on demand type of service.

+1 for pre-painted minis! A collectors or premium series would be awesome! Also great for shops to show off the game!

+1 for pre-painted minis! A collectors or premium series would be awesome! Also great for shops to show off the game!

Would buy, even if they had to increase price for quality pre-painted.

This is what pre-painted would've probably looked like. (Prepainted MoM 2.0 figures) I wouldn't be happy with these...

This is what pre-painted would've probably looked like. (Prepainted MoM 2.0 figures) I wouldn't be happy with these...

Yeah that's exactly why it's a good thing these will come unpainted, since their "premium" painted models look pretty garbage.

I look forward to painting up a unique army in my color.

As a rule 4 basic colors should do, and a little brown wash will go a long way to make your forces appealing.

And according to the video there will be organized play, yeah!

+1 for pre-painted minis! A collectors or premium series would be awesome! Also great for shops to show off the game!

Would buy, even if they had to increase price for quality pre-painted.

Just some quick calculations to show you that this would be too much money.

I like painting and have a good (sometimes very good) amateur quality (have painted 300+ minis already). It takes me around 2-3 hours to finish a simple miniature and 7-10 hours to finish a more detailed one. I consider 2-3 hours the bare minimum to have something that looks nice enough on the table to be worth the trouble.

EDIT: by simple I mean a mini like a Skeleton Archer. And bare minimum I mean: prime, base colour, wash, 1 layer of highlight, 1 colour base and varnish.

I think a more experienced guy could achieve results in half the time, let's say 1 hour (which would be almost impossibly quick, but just to make a short calculation). In China (seems reasonable to use this country for this sort of calculation), the minimum wage is 1$/hour...

This means the core box, at the very minimum, would cost you an extra 50$... and this does not take into account other costs like logistics, that these people are experts and would not charge you minimum wage, etc...

An (extremely optimistic) minimum cost of 150$ dollars (and more realistic would be, I think, an extra 50$ for a total of 200$) for the core box would make the entry cost prohibitive to a lot of people.

So, as I said previously, I prefer non-painted for these reasons:

1. Cheaper

2. More flexible (you can play unpainted) or paint yourself, or pay someone to paint them.

3. You avoid having garish and horrible-looking pieces on the board, which is worse than having unpainted models.

I don't need shadows or highlights, just a plain painting, something more visual than a not painted miniature. For those people with skills to make a good job painting you can re-paint the pre-painted miniatures, like people do with X-Wing or Armada. Open the box and be able to play with painted miniatures would be awesome.

Except what you are suggesting would both jack up the prices while simultaneously pulling down the perceived value.

Bare bones paint jobs like that do not look good, they make the model look cheap. But it still costs to get that paint job done. So now the model looks like it should cost less, yet costs more. That's pricing suicide.

Also, not all of this games miniatures come assembled. That would be another cost along with the painting that would be passed on to the consumers, which would certainly put the price if the game at a point in which it just would not move off of shelves.

You will have options available to you to pay for services to assemble and paint models for you. That you think that cost should just be born by everyone, despite the fact that the hobby side of miniature gaming is a draw in an of itself, is just being egocentric.

These miniatures do look comparatively easy to paint. GW minis often have a lot of fiddly detail and just lots of "stuff" all over them. Sometimes it's good, but it does make painting them a longer process.

Also, painting 40 ish minis for an army is really not bad at all. Having subjected myself to painting armies like Skaven, Empire, and Imperial Guard in GW games this game looks much less intimidating.

I do adore the pre-painted minis of X-Wing and Armada, but I'd rather paint my RuneWars minis to a nice standard than have an average (at best) stock paint job on them that I don't like and had to pay for.