People are drooling over dials and cards from the gencon spoilers but I can't find anything on what the mobile firing arc does outside of the unique pilots. What are the rules around the thing and what does it do?

It's an Auxiliary Firing Arc that you can move. It counts as a regular firing arc for things that see if you are "in arc" or not (such as Auto Thrusters). You can fire your main gun out of the arc, but not secondary weapons (that the Shadow Caster doesn't have).

It's basically what the PWTs should have been all along. You treat it exactly like the Firespray's Aux arc, but you can change which direction is faces with an action.

It's basically what the PWTs should have been all along. You treat it exactly like the Firespray's Aux arc, but you can change which direction is faces with an action.

This is probably a dumb question.

But if you are correct what would be the downside for Fantasy Flight to errata their game and make all current PWT ships into a mobile arc?

It's basically what the PWTs should have been all along. You treat it exactly like the Firespray's Aux arc, but you can change which direction is faces with an action.

This is probably a dumb question.

But if you are correct what would be the downside for Fantasy Flight to errata their game and make all current PWT ships into a mobile arc?

They don't like reconning like that. FFG has stated that they like people to be able to play the game as it is with what they buy in the box. You can get upgrades that fix things if you want to purchase them, but they don't like just changing the overall rules for a product that is already released. It's a giant head ache for all those casual players out there and such.

It's basically what the PWTs should have been all along. You treat it exactly like the Firespray's Aux arc, but you can change which direction is faces with an action.

This is probably a dumb question.

But if you are correct what would be the downside for Fantasy Flight to errata their game and make all current PWT ships into a mobile arc?

They've already released cards that make up for the overpowered nature of a PWT, like autothrusters. And they'd probably have to recost all the pilots.

And as they sit (after some of the counter cards were released), PWTs are not that big of a game changer.

It's basically what the PWTs should have been all along. You treat it exactly like the Firespray's Aux arc, but you can change which direction is faces with an action.

This is probably a dumb question.

But if you are correct what would be the downside for Fantasy Flight to errata their game and make all current PWT ships into a mobile arc?

Not to mention sending out auxiliary arc tokens to every player who owns turret ships.

The game would be fundamentally changed and it would essentially be such a huge change as to be unviable.

Shame, because after 9 waves they've finally come up with a turret idea I can stomach.

The issue isn't so much that turrets are overpowered or unbalanced (these days at least), but for me they fundamentally undermine the dogfighting manoeuvre element of the game.

Not being able to make minor tweaks to the products after they're released is the one thing that digital games have over X-Wing that makes me super jealous.

I still prefer X-Wing as a physical product, because meeting up to play with tiny plastic spaceships in person is sweet. I'm just jelly of Hearthstone that can go into everyone's collections and tweak a card if it's proving problematic.

Wouldn't it be great if you just woke up one day, and there was an update patch to the cards in your binder, and suddenly all your Scyks had their cost reduced by 1pt and the title became a 1pt title, so that a Mangler Scyk was now more appropriately costed at 18pts? Yeah...that'd be just super.

I thought it was a foolish idea but now I have reasons

Thanks. Wait did I just thank you guys for bursting my idea?

Now, X-wing 2.0 is still an option. They can reboot the whole game and re balance it all

Not being able to make minor tweaks to the products after they're released is the one thing that digital games have over X-Wing that makes me super jealous.

I still prefer X-Wing as a physical product, because meeting up to play with tiny platic spaceships in person is sweet. I'm just jelly of Hearthstone that can go into everyone's collections and tweak a card if it's proving problematic.

Wouldn't it be great if you just woke up one day, and there was an update patch to the cards in your binder, and suddenly all your Scyks had their cost reduced by 1pt and the title became a 1pt title, so that a Mangler Scyk was now more appropriately costed at 18pts? Yeah...that'd be just super.

Change the rules via errata is something FFG doesn't like though they've done it a few times.

Something they have shied away from is card only expansions . Too bad really.

Now, X-wing 2.0 is still an option. They can reboot the whole game and re balance it all

I'd love to see this before too much more complication many more upgrades is are introduced.

Now, X-wing 2.0 is still an option.

Is it? .... Is it ?!!

I consider the odds of this happening within the next 4 years to be close enough to 0% that it's effectively not an option. It's an option in the same way that giving away all your worldly possessions and becoming a Buddhist monk is an option. It's technically an option, but they ain't gonna do it.

Now, X-wing 2.0 is still an option.

Is it? .... Is it ?!!

I consider the odds of this happening within the next 4 years to be close enough to 0% that it's effectively not an option. It's an option in the same way that giving away all your worldly possessions and becoming a Buddhist monk is an option. It's technically an option, but they ain't gonna do it.

Well if heychadwick does can I get the Star Wars stuff? I'll take Armada too.

Well if heychadwick does can I get the Star Wars stuff? I'll take Armada too.

Wait, you get both? ...so greedy.

Sorry, but I didn't invest in Armada. From what I hear, I'll like it more than X-wing, but I'm already neck deep in X-wing and not changing.

Sorry, but I didn't invest in Armada. From what I hear, I'll like it more than X-wing, but I'm already neck deep in X-wing and not changing.

Armada is one of the games, that before I purchased, I decided to limit my purchases to a few waves. Enough for variety in play but not a collector.

Sorry, but I didn't invest in Armada. From what I hear, I'll like it more than X-wing, but I'm already neck deep in X-wing and not changing.

Armada is one of the games, that before I purchased, I decided to limit my purchases to a few waves. Enough for variety in play but not a collector.

I bought into Armada initially but it wasn't as exciting to play as X-Wing. I should probably get rid of the stuff I've got.

Sorry, but I didn't invest in Armada. From what I hear, I'll like it more than X-wing, but I'm already neck deep in X-wing and not changing.

Armada is one of the games, that before I purchased, I decided to limit my purchases to a few waves. Enough for variety in play but not a collector.

I bought into Armada initially but it wasn't as exciting to play as X-Wing. I should probably get rid of the stuff I've got.

I initially bought Armada for the same reason I got X-Wing. I like the cool miniature. I really need to get a game in.

I just know that I'm a married guy with kids and I don't have the time or cash for two game systems at once. It barely seems I have time for one at some moments.

It's basically what the PWTs should have been all along. You treat it exactly like the Firespray's Aux arc, but you can change which direction is faces with an action.

It is not what PWT should have been. Ships with pilot controlled turrets are Mobile Arc, ships with additional gunners chairs with turrets are PWT. Those are not the same thing. There is no reason that it should cost the falcon its action to change the firing arc.

I just know that I'm a married guy with kids and I don't have the time or cash for two game systems at once. It barely seems I have time for one at some moments.

Yeah no kidding, but in my case the kids are grown and I have grand kids

That is why I set a hard limit on the number of waves I am willing to purchase. Enough for variety in play but ever enough for tournaments. X-Wing has been the exception.

[sorry I realize I repeated myself.]

It's basically what the PWTs should have been all along. You treat it exactly like the Firespray's Aux arc, but you can change which direction is faces with an action.

It is not what PWT should have been. Ships with pilot controlled turrets are Mobile Arc, ships with additional gunners chairs with turrets are PWT. Those are not the same thing. There is no reason that it should cost the falcon its action to change the firing arc.

I disagree. I lived through Turret-wing and it was boring as hell to play competitively in those days. Having some sort of option like mobile turrets would have made it more interesting.

Now, X-wing 2.0 is still an option. They can reboot the whole game and re balance it all

How would you see that playing out? Would they release a new core set and then booster/upgrade packs to address all the ships, or would this be an entirely new game necessitating repurchasing of everything for a new game?

The problem with Reboots is that it requires a ton of work and if you do it incorrectly, you'll lose a sizeable chunk of your player base. You are, after all, asking the people who spent the most to spend a lot more simply to keep their fleets up to date and keep playing.

I think FFG will continue along its current course: to add minor tweeks in order to carefully nudge more play options on the field. If a ship becomes non-competitive then they will wait for the right opportunity to put it back into play.