Alternatively, he was an Ace during Episode IV and V, and then went through a narrative process to re-build into a Sentinel before episode VI.

He does very little Ace-y things in Episode VI, except piloting the speeder bike, which could be that he used some of his XP to take the Racer spec.

May not be 100% RAW, but there's a definite change in Luke's motivations and allegiance in between those two movies. He's always part of the Rebellion, but in IV and V he's an active part, whereas in VI he's still a Rebel but it's not as primary to him as being a Jedi.

Alternatively, he was an Ace during Episode IV and V, and then went through a narrative process to re-build into a Sentinel before episode VI.

He does very little Ace-y things in Episode VI, except piloting the speeder bike, which could be that he used some of his XP to take the Racer spec.

May not be 100% RAW, but there's a definite change in Luke's motivations and allegiance in between those two movies. He's always part of the Rebellion, but in IV and V he's an active part, whereas in VI he's still a Rebel but it's not as primary to him as being a Jedi.

This. I love this.

I can't say, but I can tell you what the text of the AoR Core tells me, and it's pretty explicit that Luke is an Ace.

He can only have one career, but beyond that he can have any specializations. He would need to take one of the F-S universals to get FR1 though.

Alternatively, he was an Ace during Episode IV and V, and then went through a narrative process to re-build into a Sentinel before episode VI.

He does very little Ace-y things in Episode VI, except piloting the speeder bike, which could be that he used some of his XP to take the Racer spec.

May not be 100% RAW, but there's a definite change in Luke's motivations and allegiance in between those two movies. He's always part of the Rebellion, but in IV and V he's an active part, whereas in VI he's still a Rebel but it's not as primary to him as being a Jedi.

To add to what Absol197 said, Also take into account that Age of Rebellion came out well before Force and Destiny, and used only those careers in that book. It's not unprecedented for an RPG company to produce "alternate stats" for a given iconic character to fit with a new supplement (or core rule book in this case). Thus, while the AoR rules may have a version of Luke with the Ace Career, there's no reason why they can't rewrite alternate stats for him for F&D as a Sentinel or other Force Us

So, the consensus seems to be that Yoda is a Consular, but I feel like that it only because he has historically been a Consular in other RPGs. I mean, yeah, Sage does work well for him, but I think Ataru Striker and Hermit are his primary specs, making him more of a Seeker.

I can't say, but I can tell you what the text of the AoR Core tells me, and it's pretty explicit that Luke is an Ace.

He can only have one career, but beyond that he can have any specializations. He would need to take one of the F-S universals to get FR1 though.

Alternatively, he was an Ace during Episode IV and V, and then went through a narrative process to re-build into a Sentinel before episode VI.

He does very little Ace-y things in Episode VI, except piloting the speeder bike, which could be that he used some of his XP to take the Racer spec.

May not be 100% RAW, but there's a definite change in Luke's motivations and allegiance in between those two movies. He's always part of the Rebellion, but in IV and V he's an active part, whereas in VI he's still a Rebel but it's not as primary to him as being a Jedi.

To add to what Absol197 said, Also take into account that Age of Rebellion came out well before Force and Destiny, and used only those careers in that book. It's not unprecedented for an RPG company to produce "alternate stats" for a given iconic character to fit with a new supplement (or core rule book in this case). Thus, while the AoR rules may have a version of Luke with the Ace Career, there's no reason why they can't rewrite alternate stats for him for F&D as a Sentinel or other Force Us

And this is part of why FFG is smart for not issuing complete stats for movie characters.

The reason I think Yoda is a Consular first is because Yoda tends to solve problems by going for the peaceful solution first. I think if anything if we start when Yoda was young then he could have started with Ataru striker then picked up Niman and Sage and all the force powers he has, so he could be a seeker. He doesn't become a hermit till the end of his life. But if we only consider giving him stats once he is GM Yoda he would primarily be a Consular with Ataru and then later Hermit in his exile.

So, the consensus seems to be that Yoda is a Consular, but I feel like that it only because he has historically been a Consular in other RPGs. I mean, yeah, Sage does work well for him, but I think Ataru Striker and Hermit are his primary specs, making him more of a Seeker.

The reason I think Yoda is a Consular first is because Yoda tends to solve problems by going for the peaceful solution first. I think if anything if we start when Yoda was young then he could have started with Ataru striker then picked up Niman and Sage and all the force powers he has, so he could be a seeker. He doesn't become a hermit till the end of his life. But if we only consider giving him stats once he is GM Yoda he would primarily be a Consular with Ataru and then later Hermit in his exile.

I guess it depends on where in Yoda's career you're looking. Sage seems like a no-brainer, and Ataru is obviously a big part. The depth & breadth of his knowledge of the Force and lightsaber techniques implies multiple specs to me.

I think Advisor, Makashi Duelist, and Seer would be the basis; his "early centuries," if you will. Ataru Striker and Sage would be mid-career, with Hermit coming near the end. Depending on who you ask, Yoda was regarded as one of the Order's preeminent lightsaber masters. Remember the episode of the Clone Wars where Ventress started to get aggressive with Yoda but decided that discretion was the better part of valor?To me, that places his stats firmly in the realm of "better-than-you." Just my $0.02, of course.

I think it's important to mention that characters are not required to have a particular spec just because it might seem to match what they are doing. Just because Kenobi lived as a hermit on Tatooine doesn't mean he has to have the Hermit spec. Anakin was a pod racer, but he's not necessarily a Racer. Not every Jedi that uses elements of a lightsaber style necessarily has the spec of that style.

I think it's important to mention that characters are not required to have a particular spec just because it might seem to match what they are doing. Just because Kenobi lived as a hermit on Tatooine doesn't mean he has to have the Hermit spec. Anakin was a pod racer, but he's not necessarily a Racer. Not every Jedi that uses elements of a lightsaber style necessarily has the spec of that style.

I thought about this when placing Ahsoka because of her two sabers. I was gonna put her in Warrior but she's probably the #1 acrobatics person in the entire TCW series, scond maybe only to Ventress? AND the only one using two sabers that aren't of the same size.

I make the argument that Luke probably would have started as the Explorer: Fringer class, and picked up Force Sensitive Emergent, then broke into FaD classes.

Luke ultimately proves why it's likely wise not to stat the movie characters as you can pretty much build him in a vareity of different ways. He makes sense as an Fringer then FSE. It would also make sense to start him as Ace. Then again he could also be stated as Starfighter Ace. Honestly all of them are viable ways to start the character and it really comes down to whether or not you're running EotE, AoR, or F&D.

Cant believe that no-one has mentioned Quinlan Vos the first quintessential sentinel-shadow.

Cant believe that no-one has mentioned Quinlan Vos the first quintessential sentinel-shadow.

I did. He's not a Sentinel, in my opinion. He's a Seeker.

Id hazard a guess that his signature power will appear in the sentinel book. His aptitude for working alone would fit either , however his investigative abilities would fall under either shadow or investigator.

Alternatively, he was an Ace during Episode IV and V, and then went through a narrative process to re-build into a Sentinel before episode VI.

He does very little Ace-y things in Episode VI, except piloting the speeder bike, which could be that he used some of his XP to take the Racer spec.

May not be 100% RAW, but there's a definite change in Luke's motivations and allegiance in between those two movies. He's always part of the Rebellion, but in IV and V he's an active part, whereas in VI he's still a Rebel but it's not as primary to him as being a Jedi.

I agree! Luke simply had a generous GM who was okay with him rebuilding his character when he realized what path he wanted to take.

Alternatively, he was an Ace during Episode IV and V, and then went through a narrative process to re-build into a Sentinel before episode VI.

He does very little Ace-y things in Episode VI, except piloting the speeder bike, which could be that he used some of his XP to take the Racer spec.

May not be 100% RAW, but there's a definite change in Luke's motivations and allegiance in between those two movies. He's always part of the Rebellion, but in IV and V he's an active part, whereas in VI he's still a Rebel but it's not as primary to him as being a Jedi.

I agree! Luke simply had a generous GM who was okay with him rebuilding his character when he realized what path he wanted to take.

IOW, don't expect the characters we see on screen to follow the rules for PCs.