Look at the labels on the boxes of you still had any doubts.
Wave 9 at Gen Con for certain
Neat
Any sighting of Heroes?
Won't be enough.
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
That's okay. We Scum players are used to having crappy small ships...
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
If it's going to be a part of the TIE Fighter family, then it should look and act like a TIE Fighter, otherwise it should have been something different. This physically looks like a TIE Fighter, but doesn't resemble one in any other way. It can't even ride the novelty of being the only small ship with an aux arc, as the ARC-170 comes out at the same time, and has a better aux arc to boot.
Sorry guys, but I'm going to pull a PGS and ***** about this **** thing for a while. I was so excited for this ship, and it was nothing but a big disappointment.
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
If it's going to be a part of the TIE Fighter family, then it should look and act like a TIE Fighter, otherwise it should have been something different. This physically looks like a TIE Fighter, but doesn't resemble one in any other way. It can't even ride the novelty of being the only small ship with an aux arc, as the ARC-170 comes out at the same time, and has a better aux arc to boot.
Sorry guys, but I'm going to pull a PGS and ***** about this **** thing for a while. I was so excited for this ship, and it was nothing but a big disappointment.
So every Tie should fly nearly the same with minor differences? Fun game you have there.
Edited by Kdubb
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
If it's going to be a part of the TIE Fighter family, then it should look and act like a TIE Fighter, otherwise it should have been something different. This physically looks like a TIE Fighter, but doesn't resemble one in any other way. It can't even ride the novelty of being the only small ship with an aux arc, as the ARC-170 comes out at the same time, and has a better aux arc to boot.
Sorry guys, but I'm going to pull a PGS and ***** about this **** thing for a while. I was so excited for this ship, and it was nothing but a big disappointment.
Soooooo...TIE Interceptors and TIE Defenders are cool, then? Basically the same dial, right?
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
If it's going to be a part of the TIE Fighter family, then it should look and act like a TIE Fighter, otherwise it should have been something different. This physically looks like a TIE Fighter, but doesn't resemble one in any other way. It can't even ride the novelty of being the only small ship with an aux arc, as the ARC-170 comes out at the same time, and has a better aux arc to boot.
Sorry guys, but I'm going to pull a PGS and ***** about this **** thing for a while. I was so excited for this ship, and it was nothing but a big disappointment.
So every Tie should fly nearly the same with minor differences? Fun game you have there.
No, that's not what I said. I said that the TIE Fighter family should all handle similarly. Not all TIEs, all TIE Fighters. The TIE/fo Fighter and TIE/sf Fighter are direct descendants of the TIE/ln Fighter, and they should behave like it.
Line management is much better this year too... Those wraparound line bars are being setup in the exhibit hall at their booth.
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
If it's going to be a part of the TIE Fighter family, then it should look and act like a TIE Fighter, otherwise it should have been something different. This physically looks like a TIE Fighter, but doesn't resemble one in any other way. It can't even ride the novelty of being the only small ship with an aux arc, as the ARC-170 comes out at the same time, and has a better aux arc to boot.
Sorry guys, but I'm going to pull a PGS and ***** about this **** thing for a while. I was so excited for this ship, and it was nothing but a big disappointment.
Soooooo...TIE Interceptors and TIE Defenders are cool, then? Basically the same dial, right?
TIE Interceptors and TIE Defenders are cool, but I don't see how that is relevant as neither one is a TIE Fighter.
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
If it's going to be a part of the TIE Fighter family, then it should look and act like a TIE Fighter, otherwise it should have been something different. This physically looks like a TIE Fighter, but doesn't resemble one in any other way. It can't even ride the novelty of being the only small ship with an aux arc, as the ARC-170 comes out at the same time, and has a better aux arc to boot.
Sorry guys, but I'm going to pull a PGS and ***** about this **** thing for a while. I was so excited for this ship, and it was nothing but a big disappointment.
Soooooo...TIE Interceptors and TIE Defenders are cool, then? Basically the same dial, right?
TIE Interceptors and TIE Defenders are cool, but I don't see how that is relevant as neither one is a TIE Fighter.
Because when you have no reasonable position to defend, it's just easier to move the goal posts.
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
If it's going to be a part of the TIE Fighter family, then it should look and act like a TIE Fighter, otherwise it should have been something different. This physically looks like a TIE Fighter, but doesn't resemble one in any other way. It can't even ride the novelty of being the only small ship with an aux arc, as the ARC-170 comes out at the same time, and has a better aux arc to boot.
Sorry guys, but I'm going to pull a PGS and ***** about this **** thing for a while. I was so excited for this ship, and it was nothing but a big disappointment.
Soooooo...TIE Interceptors and TIE Defenders are cool, then? Basically the same dial, right?
TIE Interceptors and TIE Defenders are cool, but I don't see how that is relevant as neither one is a TIE Fighter.
Because when you have no reasonable position to defend, it's just easier to move the goal posts.
I'm sorry, but I've been perfectly clear about my issues with the TIE/sf, and while I don't expect you to agree with me, I do expect you to not be deliberately obtuse.
Sorry Slugrage, I think I misread your comment. I blame not eating, but it could also be that I'm just an ass.
Edited by HolySorcererthe tie/sf dial is not bad.... im actually quite pleased with it. Would be nice to have the option for a normal k-turn but i'll take my 3sloop and be happy, since i was kinda hoping it had a 3 and not 2sloop.
2sloop is rather difficult to get off unless its a 1on1 situation.
For the love of God, someone open a fang a get a shot of that dial!
What if it's as bad as the TIE/sf dial?
Kinda tired of hearing this. The thing has an aux arc. Of course it's not going to have an interceptor dial. And thank goodness it doesn't have the same nearly identical dial the non-Defender 3 agility Ties all have, because it actually gives the faction some diversity for once.
...But that would be pretty funny if the Protectorate has an awful dial after it's been hyped up so much.
If it's going to be a part of the TIE Fighter family, then it should look and act like a TIE Fighter, otherwise it should have been something different. This physically looks like a TIE Fighter, but doesn't resemble one in any other way. It can't even ride the novelty of being the only small ship with an aux arc, as the ARC-170 comes out at the same time, and has a better aux arc to boot.
Sorry guys, but I'm going to pull a PGS and ***** about this **** thing for a while. I was so excited for this ship, and it was nothing but a big disappointment.
So every Tie should fly nearly the same with minor differences? Fun game you have there.
No, that's not what I said. I said that the TIE Fighter family should all handle similarly. Not all TIEs, all TIE Fighters. The TIE/fo Fighter and TIE/sf Fighter are direct descendants of the TIE/ln Fighter, and they should behave like it.
But the Tie/sf is loaded with a lot more, including more systems, components for a missile, as well as a whole other person firing the aux arc. It's a Tie Fighter alright, just one with a lot more weight on it. If it was as fast as the other Tie Fighters, it wouldn't make much sense to me.
But, honestly, that's all fluff in the end anyways, and if this thing had a dial like the Lambda but was costed appropriately, I'd be perfectly fine with it, and vice versa if it had the best dial in the game. And I'm sure that's where we truly disagree, as the fluff seems to be a bit more important to you then to me. But luckily FFG does look at the fluff, and I think they considered the things I listed, and decided that this had to be a slower Tie based on those components of the ship. We can't base this ships dial off of one line in the movie.
the tie/sf dial is not bad.... im actually quite pleased with it. Would be nice to have the option for a normal k-turn but i'll take my 3sloop and be happy, since i was kinda hoping it had a 3 and not 2sloop.
2sloop is rather difficult to get off unless its a 1on1 situation.
Agree with this 100%. I was really happy with how effective its dial was for what it wants to do. It flies beautifully, and that aux arc gives it so many options after the initial shots. Your opponent never really knows where you are going to go. Stick with the aux arc and turn? Go for the Sloop? Go for a block that might result in 2 arcs for a double shot? It's awesome.
And Holysorcer... I might be wrong, but I think Slugrage was defending you and pointing out the goalpost was being moved so you were being judged on something you never even said...
Edited by Kdubbi'd rather have a ton of reds than few reds and missing options entirely.
Any idea how many times when i fly 3-4 fighters in formation i forget they cant do a 1soft? Irritates the crap out of me having maneuvers missing. I kinda wish there was a third tier of movements that not only stress but risk damage because the ship is NOT suppose to be doing that for majority of the other moves available. Obviously not the entire thing since a Ywing doing a 5straight wouldnt make any sense lol...or a sloop
But then you have that one stupid canon line from Poe: "wow this thing can move!" That would be a comparison to the rebellion fighters. Especially the t-70. And **** it's pretty hard to be faster or more maneuverable than the t-70.
But then you have that one stupid canon line from Poe: "wow this thing can move!" That would be a comparison to the rebellion fighters. Especially the t-70. And **** it's pretty hard to be faster or more maneuverable than the t-70.
And that's the issue. Everyone is acting as if it is 100% certain he was comparing it to the T-70. He could have been comparing it to whatever equivalent the Resistance has in their arsenal, maybe something like... a Y-wing? Or, he could have simply just been surprised by how well it could move in the moment and not be comparing it to ANYTHING.