We already know the power of the white K-Turn through TIE Defender, so why hasn't anyone tried it out for a B-Wing, Falcon or Outrider?
Why doesn't anyone use Leia Organa?
Because it costs 4 points, is 1 time use for a decent but not super amazing effect, and takes up a very valuable crew spot which the rebels would rather fill with one of their cooler crew (like c3p0 who is bitchin' in a crew spot, repeatable, and also 4 points)
Because she costs 4 points, is one use, and gives the same effect as Adrenaline Rush but for your whole group, so unless you plan on K-turning all of your ships in a single round she isn't really worth it. If she wasn't a use once ability she might be worth it, but as it is she is over costed and there really are just better crew options overall.
Has anyone tried to build a double VCX list with her?
Basically, because it's too expensive for what it does (arguably even in Epic play). It's not consistent (like the Defender's K-turn is), it's only one use, it takes up a valuable crew slot, it costs four points, and other things allow you to pull the same trick for a much lower cost (like Adrenaline Rush, Hera crew, or--most notably--Kanaan crew).
Because it costs 4 points, is 1 time use for a decent but not super amazing effect, and takes up a very valuable crew spot which the rebels would rather fill with one of their cooler crew (like c3p0 who is bitchin' in a crew spot, repeatable, and also 4 points)
Basically, because it's too expensive for what it does (arguably even in Epic play). It's not consistent (like the Defender's K-turn is), it's only one use, it takes up a valuable crew slot, it costs four points, and other things allow you to pull the same trick for a much lower cost (like Adrenaline Rush, Hera crew, or--most notably--Kanaan crew).
Adrenaline Rush - 1 point
Hera - 1 point
Kanaan - 3 points
C-3PO - 3 points
Right there she is competing with other options that give the same or a better effect for less cost. So unless someone was doing a story campaign where she is on the ship or are trying something else in casual play I don't think she will really see any play otherwise.
Basically, because it's too expensive for what it does ( arguably even in Epic play ). It's not consistent (like the Defender's K-turn is), it's only one use, it takes up a valuable crew slot, it costs four points, and other things allow you to pull the same trick for a much lower cost (like Adrenaline Rush, Hera crew, or--most notably--Kanaan crew).
Was she maybe in the CR90 pack so you
could easily and [comparatively] cheaply
mass-K-turn [or whatever red] a whole squad of
Epic
small ships ?
You want to get your points worth for such a valuable crew slot. Her effect is only usable once and that just isn't good enough for the expense.
Has anyone tried to build a double VCX list with her?
For the same points you get Hera and Ezra. You can fit her on four blues with 7 points left over.
Was she maybe in the CR90 pack so you could easily and [comparatively] cheaply mass-K-turn [or whatever red] a whole squad of Epic small ships ?
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Even then she's not really worth it. You need to find a situation in which you need most, if not all of your ships to K-turn simultaneously, and in my experience it just never happens. And even when it does, it's not even that big a deal and you'd be better off taking one of the dedicate Epic crew cards whose effect will both be more consistent and generally more powerful.
I've used her on a TLT HWK in a list that also contained the stresshog. Mostly, because it was funny to K-Turn a stresshog. That said, it was never worth the 4 points, it was merely funny.
Good points. I've never created a list where I felt I needed her.
I flew a list with her once. It was great!
It was a casual league game where we got bonus points in our league standing for various build decisions. She was worth 20% of a win for that game just as a passenger, and I won the game on top of that. I was actually pretty psyched that I got to use that card for once.
Because math says 1 time use + 4 points = Bad
But if 1 time use + 1 point = Good
or if non discard + 4 points = Awesome
its does not say it on the card but she is really meant for Epic only IMHO
I've used her on a TLT HWK in a list that also contained the stresshog. Mostly, because it was funny to K-Turn a stresshog. That said, it was never worth the 4 points, it was merely funny.
I am so trying this
Leia might be a useful card once she's a Scum Only (Slave) Crew on Jabba's Star Jewel.
(and grants a different effect)
The only reason I don't use her is the spelling mistake on her card.
Was she maybe in the CR90 pack so you could easily and [comparatively] cheaply mass-K-turn [or whatever red] a whole squad of Epic small ships ?
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Even then she's not really worth it. You need to find a situation in which you need most, if not all of your ships to K-turn simultaneously, and in my experience it just never happens.
I've never played Epic, but I did see a neat trick where a bunch of bomb carrying Y-Wings K-turned at once and dropped a host of Proximity/Cluster Mines right in the enemy's face. That seemed like fun.
Rieekan's great, Leia, not so much.
used her once in epic..... then she was worth it as i could k-turn 6 or 7 ships in one turn
None of the ships that can take her need her ability, and none of the ships you would fly with a ship that can take her need her either.
The only use I can see with her is perhaps using her for a group of Y-wings to move 4 forward to grab the TL and fire at a capital ship. Still......would it help that much by going 4 forward instead of 3? Are you not facing the capital ship so that it doesn't just move after you and get in R1 (or on top of you)?
I just don't see the value. Maybe if it was "remove all stress from all ships" or at least one stress...that might be different.
If she could K-turn my CR-90, then we'd be talkin'
like a lot of rebel/imp crew, cool ability, too expensive.
If she was 2pts or had an "every other turn" effect you'd probably see her floating around alot.
I dunno, I feel her ability is okay in Epic. But otherwise, as people have stated, very costly for regular play.