I don't understand. Latts is a free evade against all the Push the Limit aces, and UBoats using their overclocked mechs? It's worded with "may" and it's not limited to once per round. Given how prevalent those are in the meta right now, why is 2 pts for a ton of hitpoints overcosted? This seems like a valuable upgrade.
The Shadow Caster is Full of surprises... Apparently
(come to think of it they may actually still get the focus token)
Yep
Gee, fancy that the best ship in the wave is another scum large ship....ffs ffg enough with the large ships being insanely powerful ratfinks lol.
I assumed since the tractor title was simply assigning a token it would reduce agility but not do the barrellroll or boost in exchange for dealing damage. Nope, apparently it does both. That is just insane and probably will kill a few small ships automatically (ARC....) from being in the meta due to the practically guaranteed tractor effect.
IG crew is as expected, though insanely cheap for some reason. Scum seem to have all the good crew prices.
Onyo is...sorta dumb. Unless you can cross the mobile firing arc on your primary i dont see that happening very often. If it does thats mean but i'd expect that to work once a game.
Ventress is going to be auto-include. Seriously, get mobile arc on any PTL user and bam stressed. Or couple'm with Latts Razzi to get a free evade if the target isnt really afraid of stress. And at 2pts Latts is NOT hot garbage: thats pretty potent and isnt an automatic effect like EVERY SCUM CREW (minus boba) so you actually have to think if its worth destressing to evade or not. More often than not, the evade is worth it.
Sabine's ability is another "hope you got a focus!" ability. Lame.
Love the rigged cargo. Bit sad its debris which isnt very punishing to hit but its another obstacle nontheless: which means if youre tailing me i can not only dump it to deter you but also to give myself a free green die!
Flipside....ugh...seismic torps do exactly like fickle predicted awhile ago. Obstacle go byebye. Ughhh i did NOT want a way to remove obstacles in this game...upside its 2pts so it wont be spammed.
I fully expect to start seeing Ventress in every single **** list. Autostress, dump a debris in a choke, free tractor effect title, crew slot for flavor. I'd be surprised to see the other two over her.
I don't understand. Latts is a free evade against all the Push the Limit aces, and UBoats using their overclocked mechs? It's worded with "may" and it's not limited to once per round. Given how prevalent those are in the meta right now, why is 2 pts for a ton of hitpoints overcosted? This seems like a valuable upgrade.
Because it comes with the HUGE penalty of giving them their entire dial to work with if you use it. Partcularly important with the 'only-ever-turn-left' OCR4 scout.
Hmm. Scum are getting all the cool toys.
I was initially pretty underwhelmed with Seismic Torpedoes, but the utility of being able to destroy an obstacle is nice enough that 2 points is probably right, but 1 meant it would have seen some decent play I bet.
Rigged Cargo Chute seems like a nice option for Dengaroo lists, although not sure they want to let go of that Glitterstim. Jam the middle with even MORE debris for Dengar to not care about! Ugh... The more I play the more I dislike the debris mechanics.
Also pretty funny they chose Tycho as the ship that was "surprised" by the Cargo Chute, considering he could care less about the debris.
Really like the crew abilities and the pilot abilities as well. Not sold on the arc moving mechanics, but its so new I know I will need to try this on the table before I can truly juge that.
Bingo!
Bingo!
I was just about to ask if anyone had it yet lol.
Noone knows how to fly Soontir with his whole dial available ![]()
Besides, they can't plan for you to remove the stress. Soontir having the whole dial open as a reaction isn't nearly as useful as something like Hyperdash, when you know that you can take any maneuver the next turn.
Seismic Torps looks bad for TIE Swarms.
Hmm. Scum are getting all the cool toys.
And in a few ways, the new Falcon ![]()
So it.. it has a cloaking device?
Impossible
No ship that small (large) has a cloaking device
Wow....I like this a lot! It really seems to stick it to Soontir Fel.
Ventress = give Soontir Fel a Stress each round. With double stress for that round, you can ensure you are in R 1-2 with mobile firing arc pretty well, which could just force Soontir Fel to be stressed all game.
Latts Razzi = Remove a PTL user's Stress to gain an Evade. Does it open up Soontir's dial? Yes. Was his dial restricted much to begin with? Not really. Does Soontir PTL every round? Yes. Does this mean you are just getting an Evade every round? Yes. Sounds good to me! If you say the list of ships this is useful against is small, then how about you look at the list of tournament ships being played right now. It's a lot of them in my opinion.
Seismic Torpedoes = can cause damage to Soontir before he moves, as long as he's in R1 of an asteroid.
Lots of good things coming out of this expansion, besides those that kill Soontir Fel.
Freeing the dial for a self-stresser isnt that amazing. You might see Soontir do a 1hard once in awhile, thats it. Hes not going to do a Kturn and all the other moves he'd want to do are green anyway.
Destressing him to get a free evade on a large ship, let alone a large ship with decent agility and hull, is huge. This thing is not going to die very easy. Again, scum get the amazing large ship. Least its expensive enough where you CANNOT field 3 of these things even in a barebones list (i imagine the generic is 31-33pts which means you could run 3 naked but heh no thanks. Also Latts is unique anyway and shes going to be the main contributor to defense on this thing)
Also i laugh at Tycho firing at a ship with Latts on board...rofl....he will ALWAYS give them a free evade even if hes trying not to because hes one of those ships that people dont even keep track of the stress for after 2-3 turns lol
Edited by Vineheart01You're never removing double stress from soontir unless you just don't want to kill him (single steess is different as it doesn't matter as much)
Take the extra damage, it's worth it
Use lat on things that don't care about stress (dengaroo)
Edited by ficklegreendiceWould Asajj Ventress, Latts and Attanni Mindlink be viable? Share the Evade goodness?
Yeah, let's not underestimate the value of a free evade against all the PTL users. Or other stress inducers. It is also important to point out that you don't have to use her. But, it does give some extra defense for the 1 AGI ships. And she works great with Asajj.
Like this expansion.
And OMG Seismic Torpedoes. 3 ARCs confirmed for me now.
It's not really her ability that I dislike, it's her ability AND her cost. For two points, I would expect to drop one of my OWN stress tokens, not remove one from the attacker. If I'm making that sort of opponent trade off, Latts should be free. There are, as far as I can recall, TWO pilots/crew that WANT to be stressed: Keyan and Ezra. Keyan isn't exactly a power house these days. Ezra is a low PS pilot and a weaker crew card. Hardly some huge danger. And the number of ships that routinely multi-stress is only a slight bit bigger: Tycho, Stressbots and (some) Dengars; a list that drops a member when you look for ships that multi-stress AND get multiple attacks.
Also yes, OMG SEISMIC TORPEDOS.
Because you risk someone copying IG-88D's pilot ability and doing an S-loop they don't have on their dial at all.
And I'd totally pull stress off of Keyan Farlander and pilot Ezra.
I do not see how, given that they have to have the S-loop on their dial for IG-88D to be any use. I mean, I figure they chose the least "harmful" IG-88* to copy for exactly that reason, but I do not see why the crew card HAD to be one of the existing IG-88* pilots. Why not make it "IG-88E" and make it unique? Like I said, I assume it's future proofing for some ship in the future that may have both crew slots and S-Loops that is apparently broken by having hard sloops.
Latts crewing for Asajj who assigns a stress token would be the combo you want, you can leave two stresses on the nearby PTL ace, or convert one to an evade.
I am loving this new Scum ship!
I did consider this combo, but for me unless the shot is going to destroy my ship, I would rather leave the two stress on that annoying ace. Soontir is a LOT less dangerous when he can't boost/barrel roll or focus/evade to dodge or turtle up. Those 3/4 green dice aren't going to save him without modification, even if Palp is one the board.
Hmm. Scum are getting all the cool toys.
Rebels have a ton of ships with Torpedo slots that go unused and the droppable debris is going to be really cool on Dash.
Seismic Torps looks bad for TIE Swarms.
Or great for TIE swarms if they bring a bomber with that torpedo to clear the board for them.
Thats really minor to the tractorbeam main weapon.
I'd be rather surprised to see Dash give up EU to take a debris cloud he can freely dump. Even if it would make him even MORE annoying to chase down lol
Would Asajj Ventress, Latts and Attanni Mindlink be viable? Share the Evade goodness?
Attanni Mindlink does not share evades, only focus and stress.
Would Asajj Ventress, Latts and Attanni Mindlink be viable? Share the Evade goodness?
Latts gives a result, not a token, and Mindlink doesn't work on Evade tokens anyway, so for two reasons, no.
Probably used Iggy D so the Jumpmaster can't hard sloop.
Moralo with Iggy crew flying with Iggy B will probably be the first Wave 9 list I fly.
Ig88D has the potential to be hilarious.
Probably used Iggy D so the Jumpmaster can't hard sloop.
Nope; IGD only works on 3-Sloops, whilst the JM only has 2-Sloops.