Preview is up.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/8/1/full-of-surprises/

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Still being updated apparently....

They got all the previews complete in time, no question in my mind that Wave 9 will be available at GenCon. I hope Heroes of the Resistance isn't also, my wallet can't take it.

The page must still be on the boat.

So it.. it has a cloaking device?

This is an even worse surprise than books for Christmas.

F5, do your work...

This is an even worse surprise than books clothes for Christmas.

It's up now.

Interestingly, it also spoils the Seismic Torpedo from the ARC, which is blow up an obstacle to deal damage to ships near it.

And the IG crew is specifically IG88D, so presumably as to avoid difficult FAQs WRT sloops.

IG-88D crew sounds interesting....

And Scums get a cool, novel ability to create obstacles... hmmmm....

Sith Jar-Jar crew. Awesome!

Yeah, IGD and Ketsu crews are going to be the standouts from this set I feel. Ketsu on a Mist Hunter is going to give it a much greater reach than its hull dictates.

And IGD on Moralo Eval with a Mangler and Bossk and Gunner flying with IGB is going to be HORRIFIC.

Not spoiled yet: Black... Slice..., the dial, and the Lancer-specific upgrade that lets you turn the arc without an action.

Seismic Torps seem REALLY nice.

It's also not clear if the rigged cargo pod counts as a bomb or not, I think Drop is the bomb keyword, so...

E: I do really like Latts crew as well. Potentially makes the Mist Hunter a lot tougher, but only against stressed targets. Like Dengaroo...

Still being updated apparently....

They got all the previews complete in time, no question in my mind that Wave 9 will be available at GenCon. I hope Heroes of the Resistance isn't also, my wallet can't take it.

Yep, this is what they do every year. When they're going to sell new product early at GenCon, they make sure to have all the previews for that product up on the website by then, even if it won't be another two or three months before it's on store shelves outside Indianapolis. Wave 9 surely will be at GenCon (and Heroes of the Resistance probably won't).

Latts is hot garbage for 2 points. Remove a stress from my attacker to add a single Evade result? Maybe if we're talking about a Tycho or stressbot, but it's pretty situational for two points. I'm sure as hell not removing a stress from Soontir Fel and opening up his dial.

IG crew is IG-88D, so you can't run him and the crew. IG-88D is the "when you do a Seignor Loop, you can use the corresponding hard turn template"; sort of a weird choice to limit (are two hard turning seignor ships that big a deal?), but I guess they didn't want to go with just "IG-88" for the crew card.

Latts is hot garbage for 2 points. Remove a stress from my attacker to add a single Evade result? Maybe if we're talking about a Tycho or stressbot, but it's pretty situational for two points. I'm sure as hell not removing a stress from Soontir Fel and opening up his dial.

IG crew is IG-88D, so you can't run him and the crew. IG-88D is the "when you do a Seignor Loop, you can use the corresponding hard turn template"; sort of a weird choice to limit (are two hard turning seignor ships that big a deal?), but I guess they didn't want to go with just "IG-88" for the crew card.

Yeah, for two points I think Latts is well overcosted, especially given how she opens up the dial of anyone other than a Zuckuss carrier or Tycho in most cases.

IGD wouldn't actually work with any current Scum ships that can take crew, which is presumably why they chose him. IGD(pilot) only works on 3-Sloops and the only other ship with that manoeuvre is the StarViper.

Latts is hot garbage for 2 points. Remove a stress from my attacker to add a single Evade result? Maybe if we're talking about a Tycho or stressbot, but it's pretty situational for two points. I'm sure as hell not removing a stress from Soontir Fel and opening up his dial.

IG crew is IG-88D, so you can't run him and the crew. IG-88D is the "when you do a Seignor Loop, you can use the corresponding hard turn template"; sort of a weird choice to limit (are two hard turning seignor ships that big a deal?), but I guess they didn't want to go with just "IG-88" for the crew card.

Yeah, for two points I think Latts is well overcosted, especially given how she opens up the dial of anyone other than a Zuckuss carrier or Tycho in most cases.

IGD wouldn't actually work with any current Scum ships that can take crew, which is presumably why they chose him. IGD(pilot) only works on 3-Sloops and the only other ship with that manoeuvre is the StarViper.

Yeah, I figure the IG-88D choice for the crew is either future-proofing, or specifically designed to prevent "5 IG lists" for epic play or something. Otherwise I am not sure why they felt the need to make the crew slot a specific IG. Why not just name the crew card "IG-88" and make it itself unique?

Latts is hot garbage for 2 points. Remove a stress from my attacker to add a single Evade result? Maybe if we're talking about a Tycho or stressbot, but it's pretty situational for two points. I'm sure as hell not removing a stress from Soontir Fel and opening up his dial.

IG crew is IG-88D, so you can't run him and the crew. IG-88D is the "when you do a Seignor Loop, you can use the corresponding hard turn template"; sort of a weird choice to limit (are two hard turning seignor ships that big a deal?), but I guess they didn't want to go with just "IG-88" for the crew card.

Yeah, for two points I think Latts is well overcosted, especially given how she opens up the dial of anyone other than a Zuckuss carrier or Tycho in most cases.

IGD wouldn't actually work with any current Scum ships that can take crew, which is presumably why they chose him. IGD(pilot) only works on 3-Sloops and the only other ship with that manoeuvre is the StarViper.

An evade against every attack from Dengar in a Dengaroo list? An automatic evade against Uboats? Heck, I'd consider removing it from an ace whose going to get away with doing green maneuvers anyway.

I wouldn't want to remove the stress from any PTL ace other than Tycho. Part of the balancing factor of PTL is the fact that their moves are limited, which is why hyperdash is so annoying.

Against Dengaroo and Tycho it's brilliant, but for two points when it might never wokr at all for the entire match if your opponent is canny and not using self-stressing upgrades... I'm not seeing it.

On Assaj or a high-PS pilot with Tactician, Flechette Cannon or Flechette Torps, just maybe but... meh, that basically amounts to YVs.

E: or if it worked as many times as you want. That would be a hilarious counter to Dengaroo in particular.

Yeah, let's not underestimate the value of a free evade against all the PTL users. Or other stress inducers. It is also important to point out that you don't have to use her. But, it does give some extra defense for the 1 AGI ships. And she works great with Asajj.

Like this expansion.

And OMG Seismic Torpedoes. 3 ARCs confirmed for me now.

Latts is hot garbage for 2 points. Remove a stress from my attacker to add a single Evade result? Maybe if we're talking about a Tycho or stressbot, but it's pretty situational for two points. I'm sure as hell not removing a stress from Soontir Fel and opening up his dial.

IG crew is IG-88D, so you can't run him and the crew. IG-88D is the "when you do a Seignor Loop, you can use the corresponding hard turn template"; sort of a weird choice to limit (are two hard turning seignor ships that big a deal?), but I guess they didn't want to go with just "IG-88" for the crew card.

Yeah, for two points I think Latts is well overcosted, especially given how she opens up the dial of anyone other than a Zuckuss carrier or Tycho in most cases.

IGD wouldn't actually work with any current Scum ships that can take crew, which is presumably why they chose him. IGD(pilot) only works on 3-Sloops and the only other ship with that manoeuvre is the StarViper.

Yeah, I figure the IG-88D choice for the crew is either future-proofing, or specifically designed to prevent "5 IG lists" for epic play or something. Otherwise I am not sure why they felt the need to make the crew slot a specific IG. Why not just name the crew card "IG-88" and make it itself unique?

Because you risk someone copying IG-88D's pilot ability and doing an S-loop they don't have on their dial at all.

And I'd totally pull stress off of Keyan Farlander and pilot Ezra.

Yeah and if I had Latts on a Lancer (or even better, Punishing One) opening up a ship's dial by removing stress wouldn't matter as much, as you'll still get to shoot it next turn wherever it goes. And rather that than take damage.

It's also not clear if the rigged cargo pod counts as a bomb or not, I think Drop is the bomb keyword, so...

They wrote it is treated like Debris, so not a bomb.

It was cool to see Seismic Torps do splash damage as well as remove obstacles.

Latts crewing for Asajj who assigns a stress token would be the combo you want, you can leave two stresses on the nearby PTL ace, or convert one to an evade.

They didn't include the usual pic of the full contents of the expansion. This may not be the only preview, and there's still a lot to be revealed.

I am loving this new Scum ship!

Ironically in the example showing how the cargo chute works, they chose Tycho as the pilot who was countered by dropping the debris cloud. Tycho doesn't give a flying fart in space about flying through debris.

Latts is hot garbage for 2 points. Remove a stress from my attacker to add a single Evade result? Maybe if we're talking about a Tycho or stressbot, but it's pretty situational for two points. I'm sure as hell not removing a stress from Soontir Fel and opening up his dial.

IG crew is IG-88D, so you can't run him and the crew. IG-88D is the "when you do a Seignor Loop, you can use the corresponding hard turn template"; sort of a weird choice to limit (are two hard turning seignor ships that big a deal?), but I guess they didn't want to go with just "IG-88" for the crew card.

Yeah, for two points I think Latts is well overcosted, especially given how she opens up the dial of anyone other than a Zuckuss carrier or Tycho in most cases.

IGD wouldn't actually work with any current Scum ships that can take crew, which is presumably why they chose him. IGD(pilot) only works on 3-Sloops and the only other ship with that manoeuvre is the StarViper.

Yeah, I figure the IG-88D choice for the crew is either future-proofing, or specifically designed to prevent "5 IG lists" for epic play or something. Otherwise I am not sure why they felt the need to make the crew slot a specific IG. Why not just name the crew card "IG-88" and make it itself unique?

Because you risk someone copying IG-88D's pilot ability and doing an S-loop they don't have on their dial at all.

How are they executing a sloop in the first place that isn't on their dial? You have to be executing a sloop to trigger D's ability.

Latts is hot garbage for 2 points. Remove a stress from my attacker to add a single Evade result? Maybe if we're talking about a Tycho or stressbot, but it's pretty situational for two points. I'm sure as hell not removing a stress from Soontir Fel and opening up his dial.

IG crew is IG-88D, so you can't run him and the crew. IG-88D is the "when you do a Seignor Loop, you can use the corresponding hard turn template"; sort of a weird choice to limit (are two hard turning seignor ships that big a deal?), but I guess they didn't want to go with just "IG-88" for the crew card.

Yeah, for two points I think Latts is well overcosted, especially given how she opens up the dial of anyone other than a Zuckuss carrier or Tycho in most cases.

IGD wouldn't actually work with any current Scum ships that can take crew, which is presumably why they chose him. IGD(pilot) only works on 3-Sloops and the only other ship with that manoeuvre is the StarViper.

An evade against every attack from Dengar in a Dengaroo list? An automatic evade against Uboats? Heck, I'd consider removing it from an ace whose going to get away with doing green maneuvers anyway.

No one is saying that there aren't ships that Latts is useful against, but that list is fairly small and for two points and a crew slot Latts does not seem worth it. Against any ship that doesn't intentionally stress itself, you are spending two points to wait on a red maneuver. On those few that do, fewer still want to keep that stress token. Unless that one evade is going to be the difference between survival and destruction, you're making a hell of a trade. At 0 or maybe 1 point, I wouldn't have any compunctions. For two points I can get Gonk instead.

And you say you would "consider removing it from an ace whose going to get away with doing a green maneuver anyway", but all you're doing is then opening up their options further by removing that stress token. Suddenly Soontir has his whole dial available.

Sure, once in a blue Tatooine moon you will take that stress token before Keyan can use it as a focus, or before Katarn can turn it into a focus token (come to think of it they may actually still get the focus token). But let's be real. How often are you seeing Keyan or any ship that actually thrives on HAVING stress?