Star Wars Destiny effect on X-wing?

By Animewarsdude, in X-Wing

/looks at signature list with at least $700 USD worth of ships

/shrugs

/looks at signature list with at least $700 USD worth of ships

/shrugs

Apples to oranges. Im a completionist with OCD and lend out ships often to help build the community.

Your comparing a person who facilitates others learning the game with someone looking to get into a game. Big difference.

For all we know Disney want to disown the prequels but some clause in the purchase agreement prevents it.

Chaos gods know he was hell bent on forcing the prequels on us it wouldn't surprise me, old Lucas is pure evil.

Sure, that's why they had two series comics set in the prequel trilogy timefrtame, as well as a constant stream of references in all the other sources.

/looks at signature list with at least $700 USD worth of ships

/shrugs

Apples to oranges. Im a completionist with OCD and lend out ships often to help build the community.

Your comparing a person who facilitates others learning the game with someone looking to get into a game. Big difference.

Again, for an adult to walk into the store and want to purchase a core set, I can see how the price is peanuts. For a child trying to convince his/her parent/guardian to buy a $40 game rather than a $15 starter, I can see the starter being a lot easier to convince the parent to do. Now, with two siblings it isn't so different because you've got to get 2 starters, so $30 compared to $40. On the other hand, when you want to expand the game it's only $60 for two expansions, rather than $30. I just see this game marketed toward kids of non-gamer parents, where the cost matters. Because you're right about this being a cheaper hobby if it's all you do and you have your own income.

Also, Asmodee did not buy FFG. Asmodee is a distributor who FFG now operate under. Asmodee ain't got **** to say about which ships get released, just how many and where they goin'...

I like how arguments are being made with the X-wing core set being 40 dollars, instead of the 25 dollars (or less) that it's costed at most places for a while now.

You guys do know that the ARC was included because of its cameo on Rebels, right? For all we know there might be a complicated series of rights that prevent a general Prequel release for Xwing.

I thought that might have been the case at some point but the fact that FFG is using prequel content for the dice game makes me wonder about that matter. And as we all know FFG loves to reuse its amazing art.

/looks at signature list with at least $700 USD worth of ships

/shrugs

Apples to oranges. Im a completionist with OCD and lend out ships often to help build the community.

Your comparing a person who facilitates others learning the game with someone looking to get into a game. Big difference.

Again, for an adult to walk into the store and want to purchase a core set, I can see how the price is peanuts. For a child trying to convince his/her parent/guardian to buy a $40 game rather than a $15 starter, I can see the starter being a lot easier to convince the parent to do. Now, with two siblings it isn't so different because you've got to get 2 starters, so $30 compared to $40. On the other hand, when you want to expand the game it's only $60 for two expansions, rather than $30. I just see this game marketed toward kids of non-gamer parents, where the cost matters. Because you're right about this being a cheaper hobby if it's all you do and you have your own income.

Star Wars fans are going to buy the Star Wars products they want, and besides they already included the Ghost and Phantom from Rebels which seemed to be at least a little bit aimed towards having fans of the show buy them. And the way I see it if FFG were to release prequel ships what will happen is all of the competitive players will buy them for the upgrades and such they need to remain competitive, casual players will pick them up if they like the ship(s), younger fans will buy them the same way they would if they wanted the Rebels stuff, and really the only people who won't buy the ships will be the die hard players who hate the prequels with a passion and people who aren't fans of those ships. But at the same time remember just how many people always comment on how ugly the E-wing and K-wing are and people still bought those, and those ships didn't even have the benefit of being in any of the Star Wars films.

Also, Asmodee did not buy FFG. Asmodee is a distributor who FFG now operate under. Asmodee ain't got **** to say about which ships get released, just how many and where they goin'...

All information about the "merger" points to it being a buyout. Now, Asmodee is pretty much letting FFG go about as usual, because FFG has been growing rapidly. Asmodee is not micromanaging FFG.

/looks at signature list with at least $700 USD worth of ships

/shrugs

Apples to oranges. Im a completionist with OCD and lend out ships often to help build the community.

Your comparing a person who facilitates others learning the game with someone looking to get into a game. Big difference.

Again, for an adult to walk into the store and want to purchase a core set, I can see how the price is peanuts. For a child trying to convince his/her parent/guardian to buy a $40 game rather than a $15 starter, I can see the starter being a lot easier to convince the parent to do. Now, with two siblings it isn't so different because you've got to get 2 starters, so $30 compared to $40. On the other hand, when you want to expand the game it's only $60 for two expansions, rather than $30. I just see this game marketed toward kids of non-gamer parents, where the cost matters. Because you're right about this being a cheaper hobby if it's all you do and you have your own income.

By any chance, have you priced board games lately? Have you priced childrens toys lately? 40 dollars is cheap.

You guys do know that the ARC was included because of its cameo on Rebels, right? For all we know there might be a complicated series of rights that prevent a general Prequel release for Xwing.

I thought that might have been the case at some point but the fact that FFG is using prequel content for the dice game makes me wonder about that matter. And as we all know FFG loves to reuse its amazing art.

So no I don't believe that getting a star wars license means you are only limited to certain movies unless you get more licenses.

Edited by markcsoul

For all we know Disney want to disown the prequels but some clause in the purchase agreement prevents it.

Chaos gods know he was hell bent on forcing the prequels on us it wouldn't surprise me, old Lucas is pure evil.

Sure, that's why they had two series comics set in the prequel trilogy timefrtame, as well as a constant stream of references in all the other sources.

Hobo this might be a new low in your prequel bashing. Did Lucas "force" you to go see them? You remind me of comic book guy on the simpsons who said something like "Worst Cosmic Wars ever! I will only go see it three more times."

/looks at signature list with at least $700 USD worth of ships

/shrugs

Apples to oranges. Im a completionist with OCD and lend out ships often to help build the community.

Your comparing a person who facilitates others learning the game with someone looking to get into a game. Big difference.

Again, for an adult to walk into the store and want to purchase a core set, I can see how the price is peanuts. For a child trying to convince his/her parent/guardian to buy a $40 game rather than a $15 starter, I can see the starter being a lot easier to convince the parent to do. Now, with two siblings it isn't so different because you've got to get 2 starters, so $30 compared to $40. On the other hand, when you want to expand the game it's only $60 for two expansions, rather than $30. I just see this game marketed toward kids of non-gamer parents, where the cost matters. Because you're right about this being a cheaper hobby if it's all you do and you have your own income.

By any chance, have you priced board games lately? Have you priced childrens toys lately? 40 dollars is cheap.

I have 2 kids and my brothers have 4 kids and 5 kids respectively, so yes, I've priced board games and children's toys. As far as I'm aware, we seldom pay full price for any toys, choosing to mostly buy on sale, especially clearance items. None of us consider $40 as cheap, throw-away money. So maybe I just live in a crazy world, different from yours, but I don't consider a $40 game as cheap. Reasonable? Sure. But not cheap.

By any chance, have you priced board games lately? Have you priced childrens toys lately? 40 dollars is cheap.

For less than half of the cost of a competitive X-Wing list I can purchase all three Battlecon sets, which will, presuming I find others to play it with, provide a similar (or perhaps greater) amount of play and variety. For the cost of some competitive X-Wing lists I can purchase three FFG big box games or, more likely, something like half a dozen games like Kemet or XCOM or Carcassonne or Cyclades or or or.

/looks at signature list with at least $700 USD worth of ships

/shrugs

Apples to oranges. Im a completionist with OCD and lend out ships often to help build the community.

Your comparing a person who facilitates others learning the game with someone looking to get into a game. Big difference.

Again, for an adult to walk into the store and want to purchase a core set, I can see how the price is peanuts. For a child trying to convince his/her parent/guardian to buy a $40 game rather than a $15 starter, I can see the starter being a lot easier to convince the parent to do. Now, with two siblings it isn't so different because you've got to get 2 starters, so $30 compared to $40. On the other hand, when you want to expand the game it's only $60 for two expansions, rather than $30. I just see this game marketed toward kids of non-gamer parents, where the cost matters. Because you're right about this being a cheaper hobby if it's all you do and you have your own income.

By any chance, have you priced board games lately? Have you priced childrens toys lately? 40 dollars is cheap.

I have 2 kids and my brothers have 4 kids and 5 kids respectively, so yes, I've priced board games and children's toys. As far as I'm aware, we seldom pay full price for any toys, choosing to mostly buy on sale, especially clearance items. None of us consider $40 as cheap, throw-away money. So maybe I just live in a crazy world, different from yours, but I don't consider a $40 game as cheap. Reasonable? Sure. But not cheap.

$40 is not cheap at all.

The core has very good value for the money, even at full price. I have three kids, and i can assure you, Toys are outrageous these days. $40 for a game that can keep two teenage kids happy for hours is not a bad price point. Especially when you consider it being something that can be pulled out of the closet years from now and still played with the same amount of enjoyment it currently provides. The product is very high quality for the price point.

Buy the original core, a tie advanced, and a falcon, and two kids who like the GCW era will have a blast for a long time, even if not able to make the most competitive lists, they will have a blast just with the thematics of it.

Video games are $60, and while generally Video games are priced EXTREMELY well when considering the amount of hours of entertainment you generally get at a $60 price point, they generally get forgotten about fairly quickly.

The reality of the product however, is that most parents who buy the core for their kids on a whim at target etc, likely have a closet with board games such as monopoly, clue, life, etc. All the games familys buy to experience together as their children age. these parents understand the value of investing in quality time sinks for their family.

The other parent, the one that goes into a gaming store to buy the product for their kids, they also understand the value, because their kid is likely a pretty interested gamer,(otherwise WTH are they doing in a game store shopping for x-wing for their kids?) and when comparing the entry point of x-wing to other games that are popular in gaming stores, you really start to see the value.

But lets be truthful here, MOST parents are smart shoppers/consumers these days, and will not end up paying full retail for these products. I cant think of the last "toy" purchase i made for my kids from an actual physical retailer.

I could get nearly two core sets at retail for the price it takes me to take the family to see a movie with snacks and drinks these days.

Edited by JoeVandal49

You guys do know that the ARC was included because of its cameo on Rebels, right? For all we know there might be a complicated series of rights that prevent a general Prequel release for Xwing.

I really doubt the ARC was included because of the Rebels cameo, considering said cameo was just it showing up in an old Republic hangar in one episode and not doing anything; certainly not being a Rebel Alliance ship. I didn't even realize the ARC showed up in Rebels until it was mentioned to me, and I watch the show.

You guys do know that the ARC was included because of its cameo on Rebels, right? For all we know there might be a complicated series of rights that prevent a general Prequel release for Xwing.

I really doubt the ARC was included because of the Rebels cameo, considering said cameo was just it showing up in an old Republic hangar in one episode and not doing anything; certainly not being a Rebel Alliance ship. I didn't even realize the ARC showed up in Rebels until it was mentioned to me, and I watch the show.

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About as much as Rebellion has on X-wing which is nill.

Vastly different perspectives here. Its the old boardgamers versus wargamers. Compared to Boardgames X-Wing is expensive as hell. Compared to other tabletos X-Wing is dirt cheap. I am a young adult without an my own income, but I really wanted to pick up a tabletop game. By cutting things from my budget that don't hurt (not drinking helps a lot from what I gather from my pears) I managed to build a nearly complete collection over two years.

By cutting things from my budget that don't hurt (not drinking helps a lot from what I gather from my pears) I managed to build a nearly complete collection over two years.

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