Advanced Sensors with PTL or Experimental Interface and Lando Crew

By redviperofdorne, in X-Wing Rules Questions

If you equip a ship with advanced sensors and PTL or Experimental Interface and Lando as crew, could you potentially roll four defense dice for a possible four focus/evade tokens?

You cannot perform the same action twice in the same round.

With Recon Specialist don't you get to focus twice in the same round?

With Recon Specialist don't you get to focus twice in the same round?

Performing an action and being assigned tokens isn't the same thing.

Recon Specialist makes a "Focus Action" assign 2 focus tokens to your ship, instead of 1. It doesn't let you perform a Focus Actions twice.

Also, Lando crew is not a focus action.

Advanced Sensors plus PTL and EI would let you do 3 actions, one of which must be from your bar and another from an upgrade, before moving. You cannot perform the same action twice though.

Recon Specialist or rolling two eyeballs with Lando Crew upgrade gives you two focus tokens. You get shot at once in the round and play a token to focus your green eyeballs into evades. You get shot at again in the same round and play the second token to focus the eyeballs into evades. This isn't performing the same focus action twice in the same round?

And you can't spend multiple evade tokens on the same attack anymore.

Recon Specialist or rolling two eyeballs with Lando Crew upgrade gives you two focus tokens. You get shot at once in the round and play a token to focus your green eyeballs into evades. You get shot at again in the same round and play the second token to focus the eyeballs into evades. This isn't performing the same focus action twice in the same round?

Spending tokens is not an action

Recon Specialist or rolling two eyeballs with Lando Crew upgrade gives you two focus tokens. You get shot at once in the round and play a token to focus your green eyeballs into evades. You get shot at again in the same round and play the second token to focus the eyeballs into evades. This isn't performing the same focus action twice in the same round?

Recon Specialist or rolling two eyeballs with Lando Crew upgrade gives you two focus tokens. You get shot at once in the round and play a token to focus your green eyeballs into evades. You get shot at again in the same round and play the second token to focus the eyeballs into evades. This isn't performing the same focus action twice in the same round?

If you have Advanced Sensors, you can perform an action before revealing your dial and executing your manoeuvre, and this can give you two options:

  1. If you choose a focus action first, you can use Experimental Interface to perform a "Lando" action, but not Push the Limit as that only allows an action from your action bar. When you perform a focus action, if you have a Recon Specialist, you will assign your ship 2 focus tokens, and after Lando, you assign whatever you rolled as tokens.
  2. If you choose a "Lando" action first, you roll two dice and assign whatever you rolled as tokens, then you can use Push the Limit to perform a focus action, but not Experimental Interface as that only allows an action from a card with an "Action:" header (such as Lando).

BUT... you can't perform the same action twice in a round, no matter what the action.

And what you've described above sounds like two separate attacks. As others have just stated, spending a token is not the same as performing an action to get that token. You can only spend one token for its normal effect during each attack. You cannot spend two (or more) evade tokens to add two (or more) evade results anymore.

redviperofdorne, I think you should re-read the rules reference section on actions.

You don't seem to have understood the difference between :

  • Taking an Action
  • Acquiring a token
  • Spending a token

Thanks gentlemen. I'm starting to feel you need to be a lawyer to figure out all the nuisances of this game but perhaps it's just my own limitations.

Thanks gentlemen. I'm starting to feel you need to be a lawyer to figure out all the nuisances of this game but perhaps it's just my own limitations.

Mostly you just need to get a good handle on the rules, then read the card, do what it says, don't do what it doesn't say.

If you equip a ship with advanced sensors and PTL or Experimental Interface and Lando as crew, could you potentially roll four defense dice for a possible four focus/evade tokens?

No.

When you perform a "Lando Action" you roll two "defense" dice and basically get the results as tokens. There is nothing that modifies those dice nor is there anything that increases or decreases the number of dice rolled. This is not a defense so there is nothing that could let you reroll those either. Lando is an Action of its own and may not be repeated if that is how you were looking at rolling for dice for possible tokens.

I have no idea what Advanced Sensors have to do with this unless it's just because you were hoping to use PtL or EI before revealing a Green maneuver and clearing the Stress from PtL/EI.

If the idea was to perform the Lando Action twice then PtL would not have helped you anyway as PtL only allows your extra action to come from the ship's Action Bar and NOT from an upgrade card like Lando. EI on the other hand REQUIRES the extra action to be from an upgrade card.

I see Recon Specialist mentioned and it has no interaction with Lando Crew at all. It only functions to give +1 Focus token when the "Focus Action" is taken. IF you happen to have multiple Recon Specialist on a ship all will trigger if the Focus Action is taken resulting in +1 token per Recon Specialist.