What about Poe Dameron... crew?

By Rinzler in a Tie, in X-Wing

So, a couple things.

I think we've seen enough of Wave IX to say that, while we're getting Rey and Finn crew cards, we will not have a Poe crew, yet. That's alright, more time for speculation.

Also, as I haven't read anything Star Wars (yet), I haven't been exposed to what Poe might be like/what influence he'd have thematically as a crew, so I'm really just guessing here based on his pilot ability:

Poe Dameron

1- or 2-point crew upgrade card

When defending, if you have a focus token assigned to you, you may re-roll up to < one > < two > blank result(s).

I like the idea that Poe is at his best when he is a marathon "focuser", and that his ability is perpetual until you spend that focus token (like Darth Vader's and Omega Leader's target locks). And he's the best **** pilot of the resistance - and boy, is he squirrely. Look at the Black One title.

Are two blanks one too many? Thoughts?

Poe Dameron - 1/2 points

Rebel Only

Your pilot skill becomes 9 and your pilot ability becomes "while attacking or defending, if you have a focus token, you may change 1 of your FOCUS results to a HIT or EVADE result."

You cannot equip this card if your pilot skill is "6" or lower

because Poe is a goddamn pilot :P

Edited by ficklegreendice

Poe Dameron - 1/2 points

Rebel Only

Your pilot skill becomes 9 and your pilot ability becomes "while attacking or defending, if you have a focus token, you may change 1 of your FOCUS results to a HIT or EVADE result."

You cannot equip this card if your pilot skill is "6" or lower

because Poe is a goddamn pilot :P

Woof. Have a look at just about all of the other crew cards in the game lol

This ain't Start Trek Attack Wing, am I right?

it still wouldn't be, you just have the ability to turn one ship that's in the same faction as Poe into Poe

I vaguely remember hearing horror stories of having non-borg Picard inside cubes and such :wacko:

besides, this is Poe we're talking about. His one defining talent is being a badass pilot, so he's taking the wheel ^_^

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Every Crew Card is heavily thematic to the characters outside of possible piloting activities.

Luke and Han representing them as gunners like shown in Ep. IV -> Boosting your attack

Leia gives motivating speeches and coordinates rebel operations -> Turning manouvers for friendlies white.

Chewie and Leebo are technicians -> Reducing damage/critical damage

Lando is a gambler and likes to take a risk (e.g. attack on Death Star II) -> a lucl dependent abillity which can result in no bonus

Vader uses the Force to cruch bis enemies not caring about his own men -> Dealing damage but also taking it.

Mara is the Emperors right hand/agent/assasin. Her beeing at the battlefield is enough to stress anybody. She also is Force sensitive and has knoledge about electronic warfare -> Stress bomb.

Jerjerrod pushes his men to work harder and faster.

-> Sends another crew to superwise the repairs. Or does it himself.

Dash has the knowledge of fighting in asteroid and debris fields -> Ignores obstacles.

And so on.

What do we know about Poe?

He is a **** gold pilot. I don't know how this should support a good crew abillity.

Poe Dameron - 1/2 points

Rebel Only

Your pilot skill becomes 9 and your pilot ability becomes "while attacking or defending, if you have a focus token, you may change 1 of your FOCUS results to a HIT or EVADE result."

You cannot equip this card if your pilot skill is "6" or lower

because Poe is a goddamn pilot :P

And the quote at the bottom of the card says,

"You need a pilot." -- Poe Dameron

Thats the Problem. He is a pilot. We only know him as a pilot and until we see him at some ground opperations in Ep. VIII it would be strange to have him as a crew card.

It's the same as with Wedge. And regarding Wedge we have several novels describing him at commando missions and still there is no crew card of him.

Edited by RogueLeader42

What do we know about Poe?

He is a **** gold pilot. I don't know how this should support a good crew abillity.

What is a Hera?

Edited by Duskwalker

What do we know about Poe?

He is a **** gold pilot. I don't know how this should support a good crew abillity.

What is a Hera?

HER REB%2BHERA.PNG RAH! :wub:

The crew card I'd really love to see is Ackbar. In the EU he often flies in a B-Wing E2 - something synergistic with that maybe?

Edited by Hedgehogmech

I find everyone's lack of imagination disturbing...

Han Solo made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs and beat 3,720:1 odds of navigating an asteroid field, yet we have a crew card for him. It's almost like FFG explored the idea further before they gave up and said, " ****, he's **** good at flying that Falcon - looks like we can't do bugger all with him now that we've made him named pilot "

:huh:

And, what, Poe doesn't show up at all in the new canon (outside of the film)?!

I find everyone's lack of imagination disturbing...

Poe Dameron

1- or 2-point crew upgrade card

When defending, if you have a focus token assigned to you, you may re-roll up to < one > < two > blank result(s).

does not compute

I find everyone's lack of imagination disturbing...

Poe Dameron

1- or 2-point crew upgrade card

When defending, if you have a focus token assigned to you, you may re-roll up to < one > < two > blank result(s).

does not compute

Aaaaand now this topic is passed off to the trolls...

hey, my contribution was legitimate

Poe's only known talent is as a pilot, so I ran with it

ergo, as a crew, he'd be bringing his piloting expertise by essentially taking over the ship's controls

and now you got a never-before-seen upgrade that can act as a sort of Veteran Instincts and free up your EPT slot for other, cooler upgrades, as well as encourage potentially interesting synergies between Poe's ability and the ships you can put him on both now and in the future

and it's not overpowered either because the only ship with two agility we can put him on is the yt-2400 or the HWK (hmmm Poed TLTs). Everything else is either 1 agi or 0 (ze ghost!)

bonus, we'd finally make Leebo (with VI) viable :D

Edited by ficklegreendice

hey, my contribution was legitimate

Poe's only known talent is as a pilot, so I ran with it

ergo, as a crew, he'd be bringing his piloting expertise by essentially taking over the ship's controls

and now you got a never-before-seen upgrade that can act as a sort of Veteran Instincts and free up your EPT slot for other, cooler upgrades, as well as encourage potentially interesting synergies between Poe's ability and the ships you can put him on both now and in the future

and it's not overpowered either because the only ship with two agility we can put him on is the yt-2400 or the HWK (hmmm Poed TLTs). Everything else is either 1 agi or 0 (ze ghost!)

bonus, we'd finally make Leebo (with VI) viable :D

Overall it's an interesting ability, however very unlikely since it increases your pilot ability so drastically.

But man, it would feel so good to boba fett it :D .

Edited by Spacenin

Red Troll, signing off. ^w^

How about:

Poe Dameron (Crew) (3 Points)

Whenever you attack a non-small based ship, you may roll 1 additional attack die.

This gives Poe a thematic ability of going after the big dogs - like and entire planet.

Or Perhaps:

Poe Dameron (Crew) (2 Points)

At the start of the combat phase, discard this card. For the rest of that round, you may change 1 <focus> result to a <hit> or <crit>

Sort of like countermeasures - the sequel.

I don't think I can name very many crew upgrades that see use in tournament play. Recon Spec., Vader, Palpatine, Gunner, K4 Droid, Tactician, Boba Fett and Dengar are all I could come up with. The crew slot is heavily contested, and most never see use. (I know I've never used Saboteur).

For Dameron to be worth it, he has to exactly match the power of other well used crew cards at the same cost. Considering his incredibly powerful ability, I don't think you ca transfer any of his currently known attributes onto a crew member of a ship and have them make sense.

Also, how is Poe the best pilot in the galaxy? He managed to (on screen) shoot down a few TIEs when he had clear superiority in numbers, blew up a planet which somehow managed to scramble 2 TIEs for defense, and escaped a Star Destroyer. Yay.

Its unfortunate the old expanded universe had been discarded, as there are countless names that trump Dameron in this time period:

Luke. (Single handedly wins in starfighter battles, willingly navigated an asteroid field for hours in an unshielded TIE - yet is relegated to a PS 8 T-65)

Han. (Escapes from a death star , shoots down Vader, always shoots first.

Chewy. (need I say more)

Wedge. (One of the best abilities in the game, plus defeated a SSD, brought down coruscant and a fleet of Star Destroyers with Rogue Squadron and cargo ships).

Tycho. (Willingly sacrificed himself during the Battle of Endor to lead TIEs away from the Falcon as they made their final attack run, and survived )

Corran. (Also a great ability, is the highest performing member of Rogue squadron, Jedi-in-training, normally kills two ships before they realise he's there)

Anakin Solo (On the fly linked 3 pilots mind together to defeat incredible odds (372 1 :1 odds))

But most of them are expanded universe patrons. Its important to remember that Dameron was the best pilot of the Resistance , with what appeared to be a grand total of 12 ships. Good job Poe. Darth Vader (through Anakin Skywalker) was able to best every pilot in the galaxy, yet hasn't been re-released yet. Luke Skywalker single-handedly blows up a death star about a week after first being in space. My troll level is rising, so I'll stop there on the rant aspect.

just an odd thought, Where's the Yoda crew card?

hey, my contribution was legitimate

Poe's only known talent is as a pilot, so I ran with it

ergo, as a crew, he'd be bringing his piloting expertise by essentially taking over the ship's controls

and now you got a never-before-seen upgrade that can act as a sort of Veteran Instincts and free up your EPT slot for other, cooler upgrades, as well as encourage potentially interesting synergies between Poe's ability and the ships you can put him on both now and in the future

and it's not overpowered either because the only ship with two agility we can put him on is the yt-2400 or the HWK (hmmm Poed TLTs). Everything else is either 1 agi or 0 (ze ghost!)

bonus, we'd finally make Leebo (with VI) viable :D

That crew with Lando could be crazy.

Overall it's an interesting ability, however very unlikely since it increases your pilot ability so drastically.

But man, it would feel so good to boba fett it :D .

well, it'd increase your pilot skill by 2 max (PS must be 7 or higher to equip); so basically VI apart from the fact that it overwrites your pilot ability with poe's

Half-Serious Tangent: Do you think Rebels are at their current position in the meta because the developers are so dedicated to the lore that Poe is the "best pilot in the resistance" that Poe is arguably the best Rebel pilot and one of the few tournament viable pilots?

Hehe

hey, my contribution was legitimate

Poe's only known talent is as a pilot, so I ran with it

ergo, as a crew, he'd be bringing his piloting expertise by essentially taking over the ship's controls

and now you got a never-before-seen upgrade that can act as a sort of Veteran Instincts and free up your EPT slot for other, cooler upgrades, as well as encourage potentially interesting synergies between Poe's ability and the ships you can put him on both now and in the future

and it's not overpowered either because the only ship with two agility we can put him on is the yt-2400 or the HWK (hmmm Poed TLTs). Everything else is either 1 agi or 0 (ze ghost!)

bonus, we'd finally make Leebo (with VI) viable :D

That crew with Lando could be crazy.

Overall it's an interesting ability, however very unlikely since it increases your pilot ability so drastically.

But man, it would feel so good to boba fett it :D .

well, it'd increase your pilot skill by 2 max (PS must be 7 or higher to equip); so basically VI apart from the fact that it overwrites your pilot ability with poe's

:P

It does free up his elite spot though, for something like squad leader. Put that with some A-wings/T-70s/B-wings and you have some good blockers.

just an odd thought, Where's the Yoda crew card?

I watched the movie and I thought it was pretty clear that Poe was force sensitive with the ability to make anyone be his best friend by just being around them.

"Poe Dameron

2pts

You may not receive stress tokens"

Edited by CheapCreep

Thereby making the Leia Organa crew card completely irrelevant (at 4 pts), wiping half the challenge out of the game and giving PTL action economy a whole new level? For 2 points? Try 20, and make it Yoda.

You may not receive stress tokens (from any source)

You may not perform free actions

Not very Poe like; steps on Heras toes

But damnit it makes targeting astromech ARCs halfway decent! (Or r3_a2 even better)

Edited by ficklegreendice

Thereby making the Leia Organa crew card completely irrelevant (at 4 pts), wiping half the challenge out of the game and giving PTL action economy a whole new level? For 2 points? Try 20, and make it Yoda.

More like, "Thereby giving the Rebels an inferior version of Dengaroo"

Well, except you'd have points to build a worthwhile ship instead of just Manaroo (who is great for murdering aces, but beyond that, no).