What monster miniatures will be included? There is a Spawn of Chuthulu on one picture, I think there are some cultists, and the text refere to Deep ones and Innsmouth something that suggest Deep ones will be included.
I really hope there is little overlap with 1st edition.
18 monster types in 1e and the news article said you could bring 17 monsters from 1e, I assume cultists are the overlapping monster.
Based on some of the pictures, are there going to be minis for all monsters or just the two from one of the promo pics (Spawn of Cthulhu and some sort of Head Cultist).
If there are multiples of a bad guy, FFG's graphics department puts just one model of each type into their promos. Can't see anything other then the winged beaty and the cultist in the promos for 2nd edition.
Hopefully it's not just cardboard tokens.
Based on some of the pictures, are there going to be minis for all monsters or just the two from one of the promo pics (Spawn of Cthulhu and some sort of Head Cultist).
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Hopefully it's not just cardboard tokens.
Are you seriously considering the option where two of the monsters are represented by miniatures and all the other are represented by tokens?
Can you name a single game which does that?
Based on some of the pictures, are there going to be minis for all monsters or just the two from one of the promo pics (Spawn of Cthulhu and some sort of Head Cultist).
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Hopefully it's not just cardboard tokens.
Are you seriously considering the option where two of the monsters are represented by miniatures and all the other are represented by tokens?
Can you name a single game which does that?
Descent & imperial assault had abit of that issue sadly.
Based on some of the pictures, are there going to be minis for all monsters or just the two from one of the promo pics (Spawn of Cthulhu and some sort of Head Cultist).
(...)
Hopefully it's not just cardboard tokens.
Are you seriously considering the option where two of the monsters are represented by miniatures and all the other are represented by tokens?
Can you name a single game which does that?
Descent & imperial assault had abit of that issue sadly.
I do own Descent. About 90% of characters are represented by miniatures, and 10% by tokens.
As Imperial Assault uses the same engine, I suppose the proportions are about the same there.
That's pretty far from "only two monsters get miniatures".
Based on some of the pictures, are there going to be minis for all monsters or just the two from one of the promo pics (Spawn of Cthulhu and some sort of Head Cultist).
(...)
Hopefully it's not just cardboard tokens.
Are you seriously considering the option where two of the monsters are represented by miniatures and all the other are represented by tokens?
Can you name a single game which does that?
Run, fight or die: had zombie minatures but the mutant boss zombie was a cardboard token, but had a miniature as a stretch goal. But we'll let this one slide as it's a kickstarter game. How about a FFG game?
Imperial assault: The Twin shadows expansion had new minatures but Boba fett was represented with a token. (Despite him being on the box art no less.)
Now I'm seriously doubting MoM will use a combination of tokens and minatures for the monsters.
@Robin Graves: It's not about using both miniatures and tokens, but about the proportion between these two. To quote myself:
Are you seriously considering the option where two of the monsters are represented by miniatures and all the other are represented by tokens?
None of the examples you gave qualify, so more explicitly: Can you name a game where some characters are represented by miniatures, some by cardboard tokens, but at most 20% of the characters are represented by miniatures?
In the Descent model (I don't know if its the same for Imperial Assault) there are tokens that you may replace with plastic miniatures for
an extra purchase. In Descent these are for villain/NPC characters ('Lieutenants') and upgrading to the plastic minis is entirely optional. They do give you some
added gameplay stuff with them so you aren't just buying the plastic mini.
1e MoM didn't do anything like that so I'm guessing 2e won't either.
I'd be happy if they sold monster/enemy packs of just critters and their stats and required cards.
@Robin Graves: It's not about using both miniatures and tokens, but about the proportion between these two. To quote myself:
Are you seriously considering the option where two of the monsters are represented by miniatures and all the other are represented by tokens?
None of the examples you gave qualify, so more explicitly: Can you name a game where some characters are represented by miniatures, some by cardboard tokens, but at most 20% of the characters are represented by miniatures?
Ah, 'k that clarifies things.
Krossmaster! but you have to play with specific (token generating) characters!
Lemme guess: tokens generated by other figures don't count either, right? So just let's say an army with one or two figures and all the rest are tokens:
Ogre!
Now that game is all about having one ginourmous megatank blowing up a small army of regular units.
For me, the Ogre uses a grand total of zero miniatures. : ) But this is a matter of definition what a miniature is.
Basically (thanks for helping to nail it down) all the other examples have the often used characters represented by miniatures, and the rarely used characters represented by tokens.
In the Descent you can use each Hero in every scenario and each Monster in a whole lot scenarios. These have miniatures.
On the other hand, each of the lieutenants is used about two times through the whole base game campaign. These have tokens.
And when you buy a big box expansion with a different campaign you'll continue to use your base game heroes and monsters in that campaign, but most of the base game lieutenants will be left in the box, the new campaign has its own lieutenants.
I, for one, don't like to pay for miniatures which are used so scarcely.
So characters using miniatures and characters using tokens come from different character classes.
The Polda's post suggested the possibility that some of the characters from the same character class (Monsters) might use miniatures while some might use tokens.
And that I considered ridiculous.
They have released this picture showing a hunting Horror.
This show the chuthulu star spawn and some humanoid I don´t know what is.
This picture shows the cultist also included in 2nd edition and the hunting horror.
The text mention Deep ones and it makes sence as it also mentions Innsmoth. There is obviously that they want to wait before the show the monsters and I think there must be more than those shown so far.
The list so far seem to be.
Deep ones
Star spawn
Cultists
Hunting horrors
And unknown "humanoid"
There are component lists already floating around, there is something like 20 something monster figures.
I think there are nearly 20 NPC tokens though, but that's exactly the same as MoM 1st edition.
Not 100% on my number accuracy but monsters will all be represented by minis.
As for me, I'll have to determine if I like the Mansions sculpt or my Cthulhu Wars sculpt better for each monster I have both.
I'll go with the CW Hunting Horror in that particular case. Though I'm sure the FFG Deep One will beat the CW version!
LOL, in case of a tie I'll take the lazy route and use the one I've already painted.
Edited by spotH3DPerhaps Polda was referring to the original announcement photos that showed the NPC tokens (similar to the 1st Edition) Also, Betrayal is another game that utilizes hero minis, but tokens for all other components.
But as everyone else has said, I doubt FFG, with their high standard for quality components, would incorporate tokens over miniatures in a game that was KNOWN for its miniatures!
That's honestly why I first bought in, and purchased additional copies when on sale to have extra components/minis. Very Hyped for them bring life back to this IP, was so saddened when MoM was no longer included in the In-Flight reports.
That miniature next to the Star Spawn:
Looks like the Ghost to me:
I think all the 2E monsters and Investigators will be miniatures. The "Conversion Kit" likely comes with chits or tokens for some/all of the 1E monsters so that they can be used by those who do not own 1E.
Otherwise non 1E players would be kinda pissed off that they paid for "Conversion" components for a game they do not own and can no longer buy.
These miniatures photos were posted on BGG:
https://boardgamegeek.com/image/3114868/mansions-madness-second-edition?size=original
https://boardgamegeek.com/image/3114867/mansions-madness-second-edition?size=original
I think all the 2E monsters and Investigators will be miniatures. The "Conversion Kit" likely comes with chits or tokens for some/all of the 1E monsters so that they can be used by those who do not own 1E.
Otherwise non 1E players would be kinda pissed off that they paid for "Conversion" components for a game they do not own and can no longer buy.
24 monster miniatures and 33 monster tokens from the conversion kit.
The app must be able to use the CK monsters for people who don't own 1e or else the tokens would be pointless.
So yes this game will mix miniatures and tokens for monsters.
Jacob Marley?
Great now we can have H.P.Lovecraft's Christmas carol.
These miniatures photos were posted on BGG:
https://boardgamegeek.com/image/3114868/mansions-madness-second-edition?size=original
https://boardgamegeek.com/image/3114867/mansions-madness-second-edition?size=original
So this looks like...
??? Degenerate/Hybrid Innsmouther ???
Ghost
Cultist
??? High Priest ???
??? Degenerate/Hybrid Innsmouther???
Riot
Deep One
Hunting Horror
and
???
Deep One
Rita Young
*Father Mateo
???
Amanda Sharpe
???.
???
Ghost
*Carson Sinclair
Looks like some new figures/investigators will be available soon for all the Arkham Horror Files games. Maybe Wave Five of Arkham Horror monsters coming. Here's Hoping....
*added in edit after seeing third preview
Edited by Jeffrey Paul
Jacob Marley?
Great now we can have H.P.Lovecraft's Christmas carol.
So we got Cultists, Deep ones, Ghost, Riot and Hunting horror. What are the last 3? The is one priest like character, one Zombie/ghoul and one big humanoid creature.
I'm a bit dissapointed with the size of the Hunting Horror. It should be a lot larger!
Some from boardgamegeek suggest Barnabas Marsh, Deep one hybrid and Dagon priest for the last 3.
So the list of monters should be
Cultists,
Deep ones,
Ghost,
Riot,
Hunting horror,
Star spawn,
Barnabas Marsh,
Deep one hybrid
Dagon priest
The larger Arkham Horror miniatures aren't really to scale. If so, the large ones wouldn't be useable on the maps/boards.