Old Teroch is hilariously bad compared to Carnor Jax. Carnor's ability is superior in almost every way.

Hell, Palob is more of a scout hard counter than he is (range 1-2)

He's better v juke though

As for the generics, 23/22/20 is a weird set of prices.

Old Teroch is hilariously bad compared to Carnor Jax. Carnor's ability is superior in almost every way.

Yeah, that is kind of odd. I do like Teroch's a lot more - Carnor can be really useful, but he's also often really fragile, and if he dies, his ability goes away, whereas Teroch's doesn't.

Love it. Fearlessness is going to be fun. Old Teroch and Palob is going to be soo annoying. Teroch is going to screw over a lot of the Imperial Aces as well. Hey Fel, where did all your Focus and Evade tokens go???

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

As for the generics, 23/22/20 is a weird set of prices.

Old Teroch is hilariously bad compared to Carnor Jax. Carnor's ability is superior in almost every way.

Yeah, that is kind of odd. I do like Teroch's a lot more - Carnor can be really useful, but he's also often really fragile, and if he dies, his ability goes away, whereas Teroch's doesn't.

Good thing to remember

Terry has 1 more native hull + title

Makes sense his ability isn't as good if the ship is superior (just no native evade)

" Of the five different ship cards in the Protectorate Starfighter Expansion Pack, four of them feature the elite pilot talent upgrade slot, three of them are unique pilots with potent abilities, and four of them come with pilot skill values of "5" or higher."

Is the reference to five different ship cards a mistake or am I misunderstanding something? The picture shows 6.

Really nice pilot art. I like the Concord Dawn Veteran best, but all are good.

I love how with every new ship announcement, the 'T-65 is totally fine guys' crowd get's quieter and quieter, as more ships that are objectively better in every way are released.

The T65 with IA is fine when comparing to wave 7 stuff. With wave 8 older ships keep falling behind.

If the Fang dial is too good, then FFG invalidates not only T65, but in a swift move Khiraxz, Viper and Scyk, too.

Barring the dial, if you slap a Shield Upgrade on this you get a Starviper. Oh, and fit a Munitions Failsafe with no ordnance.

THANK YOU FFG, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NO DIAL SPOIL!

Old Teroch is hilariously bad compared to Carnor Jax. Carnor's ability is superior in almost every way.

Hence not a hard counter

Hell, Palob is more of a scout hard counter than he is (range 1-2)

He's better v juke though

They hint pretty heavily in the preview that the Fang fighter is the counter to the current meta. If that isn't enough to say that is the U-boat counter, I'm not sure what you're looking for....

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

I think I just fell in love.

Yeah, the lack of evade action hurts, but the title is actually better in the situations where you can trigger it.

Overall I think they're both pretty much of a muchness. Carnor has a little more synergistic utility, but Terry (hey, there's already a Terry in this faction, Tel Trevura) feels like he has a little more independence.

He also feels like he will be running with VI almost exclusively.

But it's also worth noting that his title works even when he bumps someone. So he could potentially bean up to a fully tokened Soontir, bump into him and snag all his goodies.

Congratulations, FFG. You've managed to make a Joustwing ship interesting. And it's pretty cool that you kind of want to run these things the opposite way you run regular jousters - rather than rolling slow and keeping your arcs nice and wide you really need to fling these babies in your opponent's face* and turn the game into a knife-fight in a phone booth.

* - Parenting disclaimer - don't fling babies in your opponent's face.

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

I think I just fell in love.

Oh lord that's horrible. Kavil with ABT, fearlessness, R4 Agromech seems likely to be very strong... briefly.

So the inquisitor Attacking a pfighter can trigger the title, awesome.

So the inquisitor Attacking a pfighter can trigger the title, awesome.

Where does it say that? I mean, wording-wise I think it should but there will undoubtedly be more arguments about it in rules qs until there's an FAQ.

So the inquisitor Attacking a pfighter can trigger the title, awesome.

I don't think so. Isn't it the same trigger as jax, or even AT?

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

I think I just fell in love.

Oh lord that's horrible. Kavil with ABT, fearlessness, R4 Agromech seems likely to be very strong... briefly.

It's an interesting choice on Kavil. Instead of trying to add to his ability, you are covering all your situations. So if they're out of arc, you roll 3 dice, but if they're in your arc (and you in their arc), you roll 2 and add a guaranteed hit.

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

I think I just fell in love.

Oh lord that's horrible. Kavil with ABT, fearlessness, R4 Agromech seems likely to be very strong... briefly.

It's an interesting choice on Kavil. Instead of trying to add to his ability, you are covering all your situations. So if they're out of arc, you roll 3 dice, but if they're in your arc (and you in their arc), you roll 2 and add a guaranteed hit.

Oh derp it's in arc only isn't it. Still a solid choice for him I think.

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

I think I just fell in love.

Secondary realization about Fearlessness: It just says arc, not primary. Hello Firespray & Bossk. Kath can put out a max of 6 damage from hear rear now...

Also: Scum Boba with Fearlessness? Is that good, in a glass-cannony sort of way? I think it might be good. Actually, it's not bad on Scum Kath either.

So the inquisitor Attacking a pfighter can trigger the title, awesome.

I don't think so. Isn't it the same trigger as jax, or even AT?

These are not the same trigger any more, per the latest-but-one FAQ, so it's definitely not the same trigger as both.

It's most-similar to pre-errata AUtothrusters which implies Inquy will enable the title, but doesn't confirm it outright.

Old Teroch is hilariously bad compared to Carnor Jax. Carnor's ability is superior in almost every way.

Hence not a hard counter

Hell, Palob is more of a scout hard counter than he is (range 1-2)

He's better v juke though

They hint pretty heavily in the preview that the Fang fighter is the counter to the current meta. If that isn't enough to say that is the U-boat counter, I'm not sure what you're looking for....

So the "hard counter" is in the same faction!?

Therefore the hard counter is not taking a Con scout, and taking these instead?

*face palm*

Also: Scum Boba with Fearlessness? Is that good, in a glass-cannony sort of way? I think it might be good. Actually, it's not bad on Scum Kath either.

Secondary realization about Fearlessness: It just says arc, not primary. Hello Firespray & Bossk. Kath can put out a max of 6 damage from hear rear now...

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

I think I just fell in love.

Secondary realization about Fearlessness: It just says arc, not primary. Hello Firespray & Bossk. Kath can put out a max of 6 damage from hear rear now...

I was just about to post this as well. That's gonna be pretty cool on Bossk. An extra hit means it's more likely for one of his crits to go through. Plus, that wide arc makes it likely to meet the positioning requirements.

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

I think I just fell in love.

Secondary realization about Fearlessness: It just says arc, not primary. Hello Firespray & Bossk. Kath can put out a max of 6 damage from hear rear now...

Fennaroo. Fenn with title, fearlessness, chips, APT. Manaroo supplies focus and/or TL. 7 dice, of which 4 are guaranteed hits and one is a guaranteed crit.

OUCH.

E: Moralo with Mangler. Hello 4-die attack with an autocrit at any range.

Seriously, Moralo with Mangler, IG88, bossk, gunner + IG88b is going to be insane.

...

Alas, poor rebels, we hardly knew ye.

Wow....the Kihraxz will not be worth much until it gets a fix. I know many have said it isn't worth much to begin with, but I'd been using it and having fun. I'm not sure how it can compete with this ship, though. About the same points and just sub-par.

Love it. Fearlessness is going to be fun. Old Teroch and Palob is going to be soo annoying. Teroch is going to screw over a lot of the Imperial Aces as well. Hey Fel, where did all your Focus and Evade tokens go???

And Fearlessness works with secondary weapons!!!! Hello Autoblaster...

Fearlessness is going to be a beast on a lot of different ships. I'm thinking of a ton of them....like Boba Fett.

What about N'Dru w/ Fearlessness and Cluster Missiles? That's 4 red dice +1 with each shot.