I really wish they would make a game for the prequel lovers out there. Then we wouldn't have to see these threads every two weeks. Also, it would make them visible as filthy prequel lovers and therefore more easily avoided.

Why do people need to say stuff like this?

If you don't like the prequels, fine, but don't make fun of or use name calling against those who do like them.

It's comments like these that can turn off new players to the game as they are likely younger and enjoy the prequels.

Yeah well we don't serve their kind here, they can wait outside.

I really wish they would make a game for the prequel lovers out there. Then we wouldn't have to see these threads every two weeks. Also, it would make them visible as filthy prequel lovers and therefore more easily avoided.

Why do people need to say stuff like this?

If you don't like the prequels, fine, but don't make fun of or use name calling against those who do like them.

It's comments like these that can turn off new players to the game as they are likely younger and enjoy the prequels.

Yeah well we don't serve their kind here, they can wait outside.

Oooh, look at me, I'm the True Fan, part of the Elite of Better People, not like you, filthy Untermensche!

I already have a pod racing multi-species faction:

Pod Racer was a amazing game,

I really wish they would make a game for the prequel lovers out there. Then we wouldn't have to see these threads every two weeks. Also, it would make them visible as filthy prequel lovers and therefore more easily avoided.

Why do people need to say stuff like this?

If you don't like the prequels, fine, but don't make fun of or use name calling against those who do like them.

It's comments like these that can turn off new players to the game as they are likely younger and enjoy the prequels.

Yeah well we don't serve their kind here, they can wait outside.

Pandering to larger masses and younger people is the reason why Disney bought the franchise. It makes it worse for older and more serious fans, or EU primary fans which Disney is just realizing they shouldn't have cut off.

So yeah, a separate Clone Wars game isn't a bad idea. So is triage, amputation of gangrenous limbs, and segregating potentially lethal or infectious people to the population.

I already have a pod racing multi-species faction:

those are fun ! are they micro machines ?

I already have a pod racing multi-species faction:

Pod Racer was a amazing game,

I really wish they would make a game for the prequel lovers out there. Then we wouldn't have to see these threads every two weeks. Also, it would make them visible as filthy prequel lovers and therefore more easily avoided.

Why do people need to say stuff like this?

If you don't like the prequels, fine, but don't make fun of or use name calling against those who do like them.

It's comments like these that can turn off new players to the game as they are likely younger and enjoy the prequels.

Yeah well we don't serve their kind here, they can wait outside.

Pandering to larger masses and younger people is the reason why Disney bought the franchise. It makes it worse for older and more serious fans, or EU primary fans which Disney is just realizing they shouldn't have cut off.

So yeah, a separate Clone Wars game isn't a bad idea. So is triage, amputation of gangrenous limbs, and segregating potentially lethal or infectious people to the population.

Well you look at the thread concerning age it's not hard to see which group is you're mainstay, most fans are over 30 and do not like or want prequel ships, forcing them in will alienate more people than it will please.

You are assuming that a considerable or at least a representative part of the game audience posts in this forum, which his just wrong, especially when you openly state younger people are not welcomed here.

You are assuming that a considerable or at least a representative part of the game audience posts in this forum, which his just wrong, especially when you openly state younger people are not welcomed here.

I never said young people aren't welcome, just the ones misguided enough to like the prequels.

They may grow out of it, but really I blame poor parenting for allowing them to be exposed to such damaging content.

I really wish they would make a game for the prequel lovers out there. Then we wouldn't have to see these threads every two weeks. Also, it would make them visible as filthy prequel lovers and therefore more easily avoided.

Why do people need to say stuff like this?

If you don't like the prequels, fine, but don't make fun of or use name calling against those who do like them.

It's comments like these that can turn off new players to the game as they are likely younger and enjoy the prequels.

Yeah well we don't serve their kind here, they can wait outside.

Ironic that you use a quote which was used against R2-D2, the most influential character in the whole franchise.

Anyway, do you prefer pistoles or side swords? ;-)

You are assuming that a considerable or at least a representative part of the game audience posts in this forum, which his just wrong, especially when you openly state younger people are not welcomed here.

I never said young people aren't welcome, just the ones misguided enough to like the prequels.

They may grow out of it, but really I blame poor parenting for allowing them to be exposed to such damaging content.

Honestly hobo I can't tell if you just like trolling or really are that bad a person.

I don't like II and III, but the Phantom Menace is fine (yes, I am one of those weird people who thinks Jar Jar is funny. I'm very sorry. I can't help it.)

I think I'd like to see them start with a phantom menace base pack. These ships would be cheaper, maybe something like

Naboo Starfighter

Attack 3

Evade 2

Hull 3

Shield 1

Cost 18

Vulture Droid Starfighter (x2)

Attack 2

Evade 3

Hull 2

Shield 0

Cost 10

And vulture droids wouldn't be able to focus (being droids, not people)

I don't know. I think it might be fun to have some new factions in the game. They could include cards for republic ARC-170s and separatist Firespray-31s.

Also an excuse to write a pilot talent for Anakin and Obi Wan and a new, third, even more overpowered card for R2-D2.

Yes, prequels don't fit into the normal time continuum, but in this game you will very soon be allowed to fly Darth Vader and Kylo Ren against Biggs Darklighter and Poe Dameron...

Then again, like many fans, maybe FFG and Disney want to pretend the prequels never happened. I'm afraid any speculation us fans do is probably pointless. Although I'd like to see Jar Jar crew (cost negative 4 squad points) - any time you perform a boost, barrel roll, hard turn, or red maneuver, receive one stress token!

Look at this beauty:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Vader's_J-type_327_Nubian

The difficulty with implementing actual Prequel factions is that there's no political continuity to subfaction them in.

The Republic belongs in part both in Imperial and Rebel whereas the CIS just died.

Let me lay it out for you younger guys that think you can tell me (or any older fan) that the prequels were anything other than utter diarrhea of the mind.

The prequels lacked the heart, practical effects, and interpersonal drama that was the exact hallmark of the Original Trilogy. It traded Yoda for Jar Jar (what racist fever dream did that abomination form in?!?) and gorgeous miniatures for bland, copy paste CGI armies. The Jedi were not a mystical group of peace-keeping knights errant, but a bureaucratic, arrogant circle of leaders that were completely convinced that they knew best, and were focused on a bacterial(?) organism that demystified the Force. I won't even start with the destruction of the greatest villain in on-screen history, or the fact that Lucas thought casting a child would be good for the franchise. --- On a side note, when did the Sith become cry-babies? I don't recall Vader throwing any fits until they made him a whiny, emo teen, and Kylo acts like he's never known disappointment. Odd, and a poor story choice, but OK.

I could go on. At length.

The point is that the prequels were so different in tone and execution that they might as well not even be Star Wars. THAT is why the prequels will always be second class (which is generous) compared to the Original Trilogy, and even the new movies (and I'm far from sold on those).

I definitely make jokes at prequel lover's expense and will continue to do so. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I must've missed the Terms of Use that Specified that I should care who is on these forums and that I should tailor my opinions to suit their (sh*tty) taste in movies. Also. Freedom of Speech is kind of a thing. So, the next time one of y'all prequel apologists want to tell me that I'm unwelcoming, or that I'm in the minority, I will sure take a moment to play a sad song for you before I resume not taking you seriously. Thinking that the majority of Star Wars fans are young and primarily prequel fans are anecdotal at best and complete tripe at worst.

Let's not forget to acknowledge Disney and LFL's desire to keep the prequels off the radar. They know what's selling. They know who is putting the wind in their sales (see what I did thar?).

So, I apologize if I offended your sensibilities Mark. But, I'm not wrong.

You are assuming that a considerable or at least a representative part of the game audience posts in this forum, which his just wrong, especially when you openly state younger people are not welcomed here.

I never said young people aren't welcome, just the ones misguided enough to like the prequels.

They may grow out of it, but really I blame poor parenting for allowing them to be exposed to such damaging content.

Everyone should be welcome here whether they like the originals, prequels, tv shows, EU, or any combination.

Honestly hobo I can't tell if you just like trolling or really are that bad a person.

It's a hyperbolic statement, I'm pretty sure being on the interweb you've seen them before.

Freedom of Speech is kind of a thing.

I'm not sure why immunity to arrest for what you say is relevant here.

What if you had the republic be a sub faction to both the empire and the resistance. FFG could create pilots and skills for the ships that could only be used in one faction or the other and create different synergies with the existing rebel/empire fleet. It could be fun to have a pool of ships that could be used by either side. It would also be fun to fly the same ship very differently based on what faction you use them for.

Freedom of Speech is kind of a thing.

I'm not sure why immunity to arrest for what you say is relevant here.

There are many protections that Freedom of Speech offers. Immunity to Federal prosecution for Personal Speech is just one of them. I love armchair lawyers. Next you'll say that Free Speech isn't consequence free like it's some kind of great revelation.

Edit: Just like it's legal for a racist to speak it's OK for prequel lovers to speak. Just like it's legal for me to ridicule them for thinking that way. Just like it's legal for you to tell me how much you think I'm wrong.

Let me lay it out for you younger guys that think you can tell me (or any older fan) that the prequels were anything other than utter diarrhea of the mind.

The prequels lacked the heart, practical effects, and interpersonal drama that was the exact hallmark of the Original Trilogy. It traded Yoda for Jar Jar (what racist fever dream did that abomination form in?!?) and gorgeous miniatures for bland, copy paste CGI armies. The Jedi were not a mystical group of peace-keeping knights errant, but a bureaucratic, arrogant circle of leaders that were completely convinced that they knew best, and were focused on a bacterial(?) organism that demystified the Force. I won't even start with the destruction of the greatest villain in on-screen history, or the fact that Lucas thought casting a child would be good for the franchise. --- On a side note, when did the Sith become cry-babies? I don't recall Vader throwing any fits until they made him a whiny, emo teen, and Kylo acts like he's never known disappointment. Odd, and a poor story choice, but OK.

I could go on. At length.

The point is that the prequels were so different in tone and execution that they might as well not even be Star Wars. THAT is why the prequels will always be second class (which is generous) compared to the Original Trilogy, and even the new movies (and I'm far from sold on those).

I definitely make jokes at prequel lover's expense and will continue to do so. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I must've missed the Terms of Use that Specified that I should care who is on these forums and that I should tailor my opinions to suit their (sh*tty) taste in movies. Also. Freedom of Speech is kind of a thing. So, the next time one of y'all prequel apologists want to tell me that I'm unwelcoming, or that I'm in the minority, I will sure take a moment to play a sad song for you before I resume not taking you seriously. Thinking that the majority of Star Wars fans are young and primarily prequel fans are anecdotal at best and complete tripe at worst.

Let's not forget to acknowledge Disney and LFL's desire to keep the prequels off the radar. They know what's selling. They know who is putting the wind in their sales (see what I did thar?).

So, I apologize if I offended your sensibilities Mark. But, I'm not wrong.

You lost me at "practical effects". Go educate yourself, please.

I don't love the prequels.

In fact, I despise the prequels. They're basically unwatchable tripe.

But one of the few parts of the team consistently hitting home runs were the visual designers.

So much of the world building and design of those films were massively let down by the scripts, acting and basically everything else.

There is the core of a brilliant trilogy there that was just handled abysmally by Lucas (And, in fact, he gave his own form of apology to fans by sinking large amounts of his own money into what would be the frankly brilliant Clone Wars animated series. For all the bad I could say about Lucas, it's a class act to admit you messed up and pay someone else to bring your vision to life properly.)

So I hope I've made it clear where I stand on the prequels when I say I would adore a release for the Republic and the CIS for X-Wing.

Certainly not as subfactions, I'd like to see both of them treated as completely new factions. There are so many amazing designs for starfighters from the prequels and I would honestly like to see every one of them on my table.

Hating the prequels is fine and sensible, but hating awesome spaceships just because they dared to share a screen with an angsty Anakin is just churlish. Especially when there's so much great prequel era material from the animated series and other sources.

The difficulty with implementing actual Prequel factions is that there's no political continuity to subfaction them in.

The Republic belongs in part both in Imperial and Rebel whereas the CIS just died.

Seeing that chart with the Scum part made my day, thanks.

You are assuming that a considerable or at least a representative part of the game audience posts in this forum, which his just wrong, especially when you openly state younger people are not welcomed here.

I never said young people aren't welcome, just the ones misguided enough to like the prequels.

They may grow out of it, but really I blame poor parenting for allowing them to be exposed to such damaging content.

Everyone should be welcome here whether they like the originals, prequels, tv shows, EU, or any combination.

Honestly hobo I can't tell if you just like trolling or really are that bad a person.

Probably the former of the two but I don't care, the vagabond makes me chuckle.

And I'm really not enough of a fanboy to get my knickers in a twist over three films that grossed around $2.5bn between them.

I liked them and so did a lot of other people apparently.

So please carry on with yet another pointless interwebz argument. It's a slow Sunday evening here.

Cheers

Baaa

I tend to group prequel lovers in the same mental category as Brexit voters, Trump supporters and Tom Hardy's Bane from the Dark Knight Rises.

Freedom of Speech is kind of a thing.

I'm not sure why immunity to arrest for what you say is relevant here.

There are many protections that Freedom of Speech offers. Immunity to Federal prosecution for Personal Speech is just one of them. I love armchair lawyers. Next you'll say that Free Speech isn't consequence free like it's some kind of great revelation.

Edit: Just like it's legal for a racist to speak it's OK for prequel lovers to speak. Just like it's legal for me to ridicule them for thinking that way. Just like it's legal for you to tell me how much you think I'm wrong.

So you clearly know what it is, which makes it all the more confusing as to why you even mentioned it. Nobody is trying to arrest you so I'm unsure as to how it's at all relevant.

As for the prequels themselves.

I think we can all agree that as films go they're not great.

Their problems are very simple but with far reaching impact: dialogue and direction. The general plot beats of the prequels are fine, the visual design is excellent and the world building is on par if not stronger than the OT. George Lucas is an excellent producer and world builder but the most critically successful Star Wars film was the one he neither wrote nor directed.

TFA rehashes the story beats of ANH and relies heavily on minor edits to OT designs but it's a far more critically successful film because the writing is much stronger and the good direction means the acting is much stronger. I don't blame the actors at all: they had weak direction and their sets were green boxes: the main reason for practical effects and sets nowadays is how much more believable the actors look when they can physically respond to them.

I believe if you were to write new scripts for the prequels along the same plot beats and get a sufficiently talented director in they'd be decent films. The setting itself has a lot of potential: the Clone Wars is at its strongest when its treated as a very grey conflict and the Clone Wars EU is some of the best.

If I had more time I could go into a lot more detail here, but there's nothing wrong with the setting or the visuals. the prequel's issues are entirely to do with the execution of the films and not the era itself. If you're one of those people who can't separate the two then this is probably all falling on deaf ears, but the tragedy of the prequels is the wasted potential.

The difficulty with implementing actual Prequel factions is that there's no political continuity to subfaction them in.

The Republic belongs in part both in Imperial and Rebel whereas the CIS just died.

There is a mistake in this. Iirc then the first order and resistance both should come out of the new republic. The first order should be financed by parts of the new republic senate members, the centralist support the first order.

I tend to group prequel lovers in the same mental category as Brexit voters, Trump supporters and Tom Hardy's Bane from the Dark Knight Rises.

Your a big guy.