I definitely make jokes at prequel lover's expense and will continue to do so. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I must've missed the Terms of Use that Specified that I should care who is on these forums and that I should tailor my opinions to suit their (sh*tty) taste in movies. Also. Freedom of Speech is kind of a thing. So, the next time one of y'all prequel apologists want to tell me that I'm unwelcoming, or that I'm in the minority, I will sure take a moment to play a sad song for you before I resume not taking you seriously. Thinking that the majority of Star Wars fans are young and primarily prequel fans are anecdotal at best and complete tripe at worst.

So, I apologize if I offended your sensibilities Mark. But, I'm not wrong.

You are wrong. I have two warnings to prove you wrong . You are not supposed to make fun of other forum. You are supposed to be welcoming to all forum members, no matter how … silly … they seem. You are as well wrong on civil rights. Freedom of speech covers that you can say whatever you want, but not where. This is a private forum, you are free to say whatever FFG allows you to say and FFG is free to kick you out for whatever reason they like. Freedom of speech does not apply here. You are free to write on your blog how much you hate prequel fans that is indeed protected by freedom of speech. Except when you are blogging on blogger. ;-)

You are wrong.

Oh and you are even more wrong as TCW > Rebels which makes the prequel era overall ten times better than the galactic civil war era on average, even when the OT movies are clearly a lot better than the prequel movies. Heck, the GCW era has the holiday specials, I watch a Binks episode in tcw over that anyday

On a side note, when did the Sith become cry-babies? I don't recall Vader throwing any fits until they made him a whiny, emo teen, and Kylo acts like he's never known disappointment.

5:40.

The difficulty with implementing actual Prequel factions is that there's no political continuity to subfaction them in.

The Republic belongs in part both in Imperial and Rebel whereas the CIS just died.

There is a mistake in this. Iirc then the first order and resistance both should come out of the new republic. The first order should be financed by parts of the new republic senate members, the centralist support the first order.

Why did you have to remind me of the mess that is Bloodline?

The First Order's origins from what we know so far are from the remnants of the Imperial Navy. Snoke somehow fits into that picture but we know so little about him we don't know how. There are certainly First Order supporters within the New Republic but the continuity is Empire -> First Order.

Oh and you are even more wrong as TCW > Rebels which makes the prequel era overall ten times better than the galactic civil war era on average, even when the OT movies are clearly a lot better than the prequel movies.

You give numbers as if you have some sort of statistical backing for this.

I've never actually got why TCW is so highly rated: it got fairly good later on but people seem to adore it. I especially don't get why it's rated so much more highly than Rebels: always struck me as TCW's team took the stride they hit in the last few series of TCW and carried it over.

Rebels starts even weaker, and TCW has simply the cooler cast and better setting and story. It basically higher rated because it is in the prequels era.

Besides we have 3 great movies in the GCW era, 6 garbage special editions which have the charm of the prequel movies, then there are two ewok movies, the ewok TV series, the holiday specials, oh and "Droids". I am not gonna do the math and check out the imdb ratings of all of that, because I am lazy and the result should be too obvious: Outside of the OT in its original version there is nothing good in that era. OK, outside of Rebels and the original OT.

While the prequels have bad movies, but everything else is really good, be it the non-canon Clone Wars or The Clone Wars series. There is a reason why Heir to the Empire is considered to save the franchise. (And that one has Luuke Skywalker, a silly nearly omniscience Thrawn and Ysalamir.

So yeah, if you want to do the math, I would even claim statistical backing for this, else I just claim common sense backing … ignore my signature on this

I do get how people enjoyed to make fun of the prequel movies, but it became old, dull and silly. And the era is imho indeed most interesting in all of star wars.

I don't consider the clone wars good I tried to watch it but it was too painful, rebels is worse though.

If any of you want to do any custom things here is a new forum:

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/229400-custom-prequel-factions/?hl=prequel

Let me lay it out for you younger guys that think you can tell me (or any older fan) that the prequels were anything other than utter diarrhea of the mind.

The prequels lacked the heart, practical effects, and interpersonal drama that was the exact hallmark of the Original Trilogy. It traded Yoda for Jar Jar (what racist fever dream did that abomination form in?!?) and gorgeous miniatures for bland, copy paste CGI armies. The Jedi were not a mystical group of peace-keeping knights errant, but a bureaucratic, arrogant circle of leaders that were completely convinced that they knew best, and were focused on a bacterial(?) organism that demystified the Force. I won't even start with the destruction of the greatest villain in on-screen history, or the fact that Lucas thought casting a child would be good for the franchise. --- On a side note, when did the Sith become cry-babies? I don't recall Vader throwing any fits until they made him a whiny, emo teen, and Kylo acts like he's never known disappointment. Odd, and a poor story choice, but OK.

I could go on. At length.

The point is that the prequels were so different in tone and execution that they might as well not even be Star Wars. THAT is why the prequels will always be second class (which is generous) compared to the Original Trilogy, and even the new movies (and I'm far from sold on those).

I definitely make jokes at prequel lover's expense and will continue to do so. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I must've missed the Terms of Use that Specified that I should care who is on these forums and that I should tailor my opinions to suit their (sh*tty) taste in movies. Also. Freedom of Speech is kind of a thing. So, the next time one of y'all prequel apologists want to tell me that I'm unwelcoming, or that I'm in the minority, I will sure take a moment to play a sad song for you before I resume not taking you seriously. Thinking that the majority of Star Wars fans are young and primarily prequel fans are anecdotal at best and complete tripe at worst.

Let's not forget to acknowledge Disney and LFL's desire to keep the prequels off the radar. They know what's selling. They know who is putting the wind in their sales (see what I did thar?).

So, I apologize if I offended your sensibilities Mark. But, I'm not wrong.

An enemy of an enemy is a friend.

Better watch out, I was suspended for saying that people who liked the prequel ships had unshaven necks. /Someone/ got huffy and offended.

This is a game, it's not politics, it's not ethics, it's a game. Fly casual.

All you people saying the CIS and Republic can't be their own factions are just being silly. The game is more than capable of supporting 5 factions, and indeed compared to the norm for wargames it actually needs more factions. The balance dichotomy gets more interesting when you have more than 3.

As for 'its not fluffy'', well. Its not fluffy for First Order and Empire pilots to be together. Its not fluffy for two players to fight each other with the same named pilots. Its not fluffy for Biggs, Vader, Luke, and Kylo Ren to be on the table together. Its not fluffy for Vader and Rey to be facing each other.

This game already makes you play fast and loose with the canon. Having Anakin fly a Jedi starfighter vs his future Vader self isn't going to ruin the game.

Frankly, the game needs 2 more factions to properly function. 3 is simply too few. And FFG is going to run out of ships eventually.

Did this guy really bump his own thread seven months later?

Me?

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Too late.