Seriously, if you know how to play him he will have his additional defense die most of the time.

Lacking EPT cannot be a real reason not taking him. He is PS 6 for 25 points.

Kihraxz the ship need a bit of a fix, but nevertheless I have very good experience with him.

Other experiences?

I've wanted to take him, but haven't. I figured he's not as bad as people think. OK...maybe not top tables at Worlds, but who cares? I've been flying a Kihraxz every now and then and I like that ship. I know it gets bashed a lot. Maybe the Vectored Thrusters will make it better.

Green dice are pure evil. I try to roll as few as possible. Just for that reason he doesn't really appeal to me. Been having a blast with Talonbane Cobra with Predator and Inertial Dampeners.

He's a PS6 dude with no EPT, and flying a ship with no reposition ability.

his ability yeilds 3\8 extra evades on a roll.

He's a living example, a statement that FFG has no intention of making mid-PS good.

Expect the usual diatribe about the reliability of free dice (or lack there of).

I haven't tried him yet, although Black Sun Aces with Mindlink are currently really floating my (gun)boat.

I want to give hum a try as he's the only Kihraxz pilot I haven't flown so far. When Wave 9 hits, you'll be able to get a Black Sun Ace with Adaptability and Vector Thrusters for the same price, which might work out better

You can always go with Glitterstim if you need it in that crucial round.

He's a living example, a statement that FFG has no intention of making mid-PS good.

Ryad anyone? [whistles]

He's a PS6 dude with no EPT, and flying a ship with no reposition ability.

his ability yeilds 3\8 extra evades on a roll.

He's a living example, a statement that FFG has no intention of making mid-PS good.

He's a living example, a statement that FFG has no intention of making mid-PS good.

Ryad anyone? [whistles]

I get the impression that they've learned their lesson on the mid-PS problem. Ryad in particular makes me think that, as to a somewhat lesser extent does Fenn - his ability is solid, but it's no Soontir or Vader, and it's quite limited in scope.

Quickdraw is an argument against - but conversely, his ability is very, very rarely going to fire more than once I don't think.

He's a living example, a statement that FFG has no intention of making mid-PS good.

Ryad anyone? [whistles]

Sadly, her ability is PS-dependant as well.

What makes us sad panda.

He's a living example, a statement that FFG has no intention of making mid-PS good.

Ryad anyone? [whistles]

Sadly, her ability is PS-dependant as well.

What makes us sad panda.

She has a frankly ludicrously good ability that is tempered by a mid PS. THis is good design, it forces players to choose between good abilities and good PS rather than frontloading everything into super-pilots and leaving us with the likes of Super Soontir.

Turr Phinir is also good. It's not like there aren't good mid PS ships. There are some that are a bit duds, though. Then again, I love using them in B-list games. All generics, except for a few of the B-team guys. They shine really well in those games.

Except most of the time there are EPTs that make simple EPT-mid-PS-generic better than Gimmicky-eptless-named

He's a living example, a statement that FFG has no intention of making mid-PS good.

Ryad anyone? [whistles]

Sadly, her ability is PS-dependant as well.

What makes us sad panda.

It's only PS dependent if you have no imagination, forethought, or PTL card.

I'm ok with mid PS ships not being great. After all, if they were great, they wouldn't be a mid level skilled pilot would they?

He's a living example, a statement that FFG has no intention of making mid-PS good.

Ryad anyone? [whistles]

Vess too!

mostly, though, mid PS is jank for some reason

not that it matters for the Kfighter because cobra is also jank in this case

I'm ok with mid PS ships not being great. After all, if they were great, they wouldn't be a mid level skilled pilot would they?

yes they would

you're supposed to balance capabilities rather than just stuff all the good **** on a single ship, reducing the variety of viable options you can field

He's a Black Sun Ace that effectively bought an interesting, if uninspiring, 2pt EPT that would be better suited to A-wings or other token-stackers than an !x-wing with one action.

Oh, and he's an extra point of pilot skill. Yay.

Funny enough, if he'd had an EPT, he'd have been awesome: predator and bank focus for defense; crack shot for that first pass; or even lone wolf for a tough-as-nails lynchpin to a couple flankers (which scum will get eventually, honest )

Without it, though, he's a starviper with 5 points of PS in return for maneuvering actions. The problem is that while this should be good, kinda, 5 points of PS has a habit only being marginally better than, say, 2 or 3.

If you can keep his arc on the enemy while keeping focus fire off of him, he'd be fine. But that's a lot of conditions to keep satisfied for, at the end of a day, a slightly tougher x-wing gun.

Except most of the time there are EPTs that make simple EPT-mid-PS-generic better than Gimmicky-eptless-named

There are times when some of those EPT-less guys shine, though. Maybe it's a special mission or fun game, but sometimes it's almost worth building a special mission where those guys are really good....just for the sheer joy of taking someone so so and making them awesome.

I've found Kir Kanos to edge towards the side of really good in Epic. He has to take an Evade instead of a die modifier, but he gets to auto add in an extra hit. Average wise, it comes out normal, but if you roll well and don't need modifiers, it does boost the overall attack value. I've found it really good in Epic where you sometimes need that extra punch on a target.

It's only PS dependent if you have no imagination, forethought, or PTL card.

It does seem that unless you are PS 8+ and good with PTL, that it's considered a bad card most of the time.

I'm about to start up a casual league with newer players, and this thread actually gives me some hope for seeing those too often forgotten middle ships instead of everything being hyper effective S-tier gaming.

Graz the hunter (25 points): a mid PS ship with odds of having 3 evade dice, but no autothrusters or repositionning (not that it really matters at that PS).

Black Sun Ace with mindlink (24 points): a mid PS ship which, if flown correctly, has some good action economy (or provides actions to others).

I'm not saying that Graz has not some appeal and I had some reasons to field him in epic prior to mindlink. With mindlink here, however, Graz is officially hitting the shelves.

There are tons of good mid ps abilities. Chewie, Night Beast, Dark Curse, Dutch, Garven, Vessery, Ryad, and more. The reason they are mid PS is that some of them would be too good at higher levels. Whatchoo talking bout Willis!

I fly the Kihraxz for fun regularly.... on paper they kick ass but some how the lack that when they hit the table. kind of like an x-wing

His ability would have been better if it had read "out of arc." As it stands, any ship that can consistently dodge his arc makes him 25 points of dead weight when there are other ships in the faction that are much more durable (A glitterstim Black Sun Ace is a much better buy for the same cost).

Graz with cloak and SPA is good. Almost made a similar post after a few games with him.

Leebo, Guri, Hobbie, Latts, Biggs, Echo, all the IG88's, Guri, Backstabber, Emon, Palob, Tarn, did I mention Guri?

That's off the top of my head, there's plenty of good mid-PS pilots, the only ship I can think of which doesn't really have one is the A-Wing.

Leebo, Guri, Hobbie, Latts, Biggs, Echo, all the IG88's, Guri, Backstabber, Emon, Palob, Tarn, did I mention Guri?

That's off the top of my head, there's plenty of good mid-PS pilots, the only ship I can think of which doesn't really have one is the A-Wing.

Jake's is a very good ability but I don't know if you'd count him as mid-PS.