Do you still collect the token if you spend CO to not resolve the effects of overlapping?

Bonus question, while we're on CO scenarios: if you overlap two obstacles at once, can you toss him to take no effects from either, or do you just negate one?

For reference--

Chart Officer:

After you execute a maneuver, if you overlapped an obstacle, you may discard this card instead of resolving the effects of overlapping that obstacle.

Dangerous Territory:

*snip*

Special Rule: When a ship overlaps an obstacle, the ship's owner may remove the objective token on that obstacle to gain 1 victory token.

As written, you don't get the token, and it only works on one obstacle.

As intended, *probably* you get the token, one obstacle.

That's pretty much my opinion as well. It's looking like they didn't give a lot of consideration to DT interaction in these new cards that interact with obstacles.

Although, actually, Jaina's Light is worded pretty similarly:

You can ignore the effects of overlapping obstacles.

Interesting.

Is Dangerous Territory an "Effect" of overlapping an obstacle, or do we restrict ourselves to the "overlapping an obstacle" effects listed in the rulebook?

Common Sense says we probably should... That way, you don't have funky interactions like Jaina's light never being able to pick tokens up... Again, that may be intentional, we don't know, we can only guess and surmise.

I believe it should be that case.

Mostly because you're Ignoring the effect of Overlapping the Obstacle, rather than not overlapping the obstacle ... You overlap, you just don't care. Because you overlapped, you can take the token...

VERY similar to Heavy. With Heavy, you can ignore the negative effects of being Engaged... But you're still Engaged ...

::shrug:: Thats my interpret.

Ignore the effect of overlapping. But you still overlapped. So take that token.

And definitely, if you hit two obstacles, Chart Officer talks about Singular, so its probably intended to only protect against the Singular....

I agree with Dras,

The Chart Officer only works if you overlap, it just lets you ignore the 2 damage, 1 damage card from overlapping.

The Objective states "When a ship overlaps an obstacle."

You are overlapping an obstacle, or the Chart Officer could not be used. It does not say when you suffer the effects of overlapping an obstacle you may collect the token.

As for what happens if you overlap two obstacles, Chart Officer is singular. it says "That obstacle."

I am with Dras. Dangerous Territory has nothing to do with the effect of "Overlapping" it is its on separate resolution due to a trigger. Not the trigger of the obstacle though.

But Overlapping is required, so how can we be sure that getting the token isn't an effect of Overlapping?

I think everyone agrees that the intention is that you could use this upgrade effect and still get the token, I think it just needs FAQing.

But Overlapping is required, so how can we be sure that getting the token isn't an effect of Overlapping?

I think everyone agrees that the intention is that you could use this upgrade effect and still get the token, I think it just needs FAQing.

It is a result of, not because of.

It is not an effect of overlapping because it is not covered under the rules of Overlapping.

It is not because you overlapped but because of an overlap.

Do you still collect the token if you spend CO to not resolve the effects of overlapping?

Bonus question, while we're on CO scenarios: if you overlap two obstacles at once, can you toss him to take no effects from either, or do you just negate one?

For reference--

Chart Officer:

After you execute a maneuver, if you overlapped an obstacle, you may discard this card instead of resolving the effects of overlapping that obstacle.

Dangerous Territory:

*snip*

Special Rule: When a ship overlaps an obstacle, the ship's owner may remove the objective token on that obstacle to gain 1 victory token.

Chart officer lets your ignore ONE ('that') obstacle. Your choice if you overlap more than one (since you get to pick in what order to resolve overlaps).

DT is unaffected; you're still overlapping, you just don't suffer the normal consequences.