If FFG is considering ending the Star Wars rpg I hope they get the Clone Wars era book out before closing down.

Definitely have my fingers crossed for a Clone Wars sourcebook, as well.

I've only been able to find bits and pieces of relevant gear and stats across the three book lines (prototype ARC trooper armor, IG-100 Magnaguards and Droidekas, a couple of Republic dropships) - not exactly enough to run my dream GAR campaign.

3 hours ago, Alisair Longreach said:

I think the monkey is talking about an Asmodee/FFG buyout. Corporate stuff. Maybe he will enlighten us a bit.

I think your right. And that happened like 2 years ago...

Considering that they were talking about Dawn of Rebellion like it was the first of an entire type of sourcebook, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the cards.

On 7/25/2018 at 4:56 AM, OddballE8 said:

So... just looked and there's only 4 products on the roleplaying side that are upcoming (cyphers and masks included) and that's undeniably a bit worrying.

Not just the Star Wars line, but the entire RPG line of FFG currenty has only 4 products in the upcoming lineup...

I'm hoping for a slew of new announcements during the convention.

I'm expecting rather than hoping but I generally share the sentiment

On 7/28/2018 at 12:14 AM, CeilingSquid said:

Considering that they were talking about Dawn of Rebellion like it was the first of an entire type of sourcebook, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the cards.

I suppose I'm damaged from my experience with the APB fiasco back in the day...

9 hours ago, OddballE8 said:

I suppose I'm damaged from my experience with the APB fiasco back in the day...

Advanced Placement Bio? All Points Bulletin? ...

4 hours ago, EliasWindrider said:

Advanced Placement Bio? All Points Bulletin? ...

All Points Bulletin.

It was a game that came out in 2010. And was shut down in 2010 after the developers went bankrupt.

It was shut down with no notice. The servers went down for a big patch update but then they never went back on and after a while we received the news that the game was dead.

Not a peep about it before it happened. We all knew that the company was in economical trouble, but not to what extent and there was no notice that the game was shutting down.

1 hour ago, OddballE8 said:

All Points Bulletin.

It was a game that came out in 2010. And was shut down in 2010 after the developers went bankrupt.

It was shut down with no notice. The servers went down for a big patch update but then they never went back on and after a while we received the news that the game was dead.

Not a peep about it before it happened. We all knew that the company was in economical trouble, but not to what extent and there was no notice that the game was shutting down.

Considering Azmodee bought up Settlers of Catan this year and has gobbled up every other competitor in sight, I think there is no need for such examples.

Waiting sucks, but it’s what we get when the company has a track record of being terrible at communication.

36 minutes ago, Khazadune said:

Considering Azmodee bought up Settlers of Catan this year and has gobbled up every other competitor in sight, I think there is no need for such examples.

Waiting sucks, but it’s what we get when the company has a track record of being terrible at communication.

I'm just saying that's where I got my slight paranoia about companies not communicating and this situation where almost no new RPG products are in the line.

I'm not saying that Asmodee would go bankrupt or anything.

Just that they might give up the Star Wars franchise of RPG's with little to no warning.

16 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:

Just that they might give up the Star Wars franchise of RPG's with little to no warning.

If they could drop the RPGs and still hold onto X-wing and the other minis games, this has more likelihood of occurring, but I don't know how their Star Wars licenses are bundled.

33 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:

If they could drop the RPGs and still hold onto X-wing and the other minis games, this has more likelihood of occurring, but I don't know how their Star Wars licenses are bundled.

Considering they couldn't make a Star Wars tabletop game (like Legion) earlier, but can now, I don't think their Star Wars license is bundled at all.

I think they have one for RPG's, one for Boardgames and one for Tabletop games.

It makes sense for both sides, as this means Disney/LucasArts could elect to not renew the RPG contract specifically if they found someone else who's willing to pay more (and assuming they don't care about FFG's "feelings" on the matter).

Instead of having all of it tied into one lump contract.

1 hour ago, OddballE8 said:

I'm just saying that's where I got my slight paranoia about companies not communicating and this situation where almost no new RPG products are in the line.

I'm not saying that Asmodee would go bankrupt or anything.

Just that they might give up the Star Wars franchise of RPG's with little to no warning.

Was there any warning that FFG was going to drop the 40K franchise?

Thats a little closer to home.

49 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:

Considering they couldn't make a Star Wars tabletop game (like Legion) earlier, but can now, I don't think their Star Wars license is bundled at all.

I think they have one for RPG's, one for Boardgames and one for Tabletop games.

It makes sense for both sides, as this means Disney/LucasArts could elect to not renew the RPG contract specifically if they found someone else who's willing to pay more (and assuming they don't care about FFG's "feelings" on the matter).

Instead of having all of it tied into one lump contract.

Is there anyone who could pay more, much less would pay more?

48 minutes ago, korjik said:

Was there any warning that FFG was going to drop the 40K franchise?

Thats a little closer to home.

This is exactly what I was thinking. FFG never said a word about it until AFTER all of their 40K products vanished overnight from DriveThruRPG. Since they can't sell PDFs for this system, we won't even get that indicator.

Except the entire 40k license was on the line, and it's GW they were dealing with.

That's not the case for Star Wars. Even "un-bundled", I don't see another company getting served the RPG rights without warning unless there's some serious lapse in the relationship between Lucasfilm and FFG.

The most likely situation, imo, is we see the line go dormant for a while, and oddball/setting sourcebooks occasionally trickle out at a much-reduced rate, until it's eventually time for a new edition. All the career books are going to be out once Cyphers hits. For FFG, those are the biggest guaranteed sellers.

We're very much in late-system life now, as I see it, but won't know for sure until the last of our delayed releases are finally out. And maybe after GenCon. I hope we hear a peep about any upcoming books soon...what's frustrated me is more that the slew of delays and acts of god over the last year (starting with Ghosts of Dathomir and the fold of Hanjin shipping) have completely thrown off any estimates we might've made.

Ooo, can we start calling them "acts of GoD"?

We have had content developers state they have been working on as yet undisclosed products for the lines so the rampant speculation and rumours have less to no credibility. That said, the silence from FFG’s PR department is just terrible. How a company expects to operate a line like a rudderless ship is beyond me. I’m gonna submit a ticket to their PR department and point to the discussions in the forums, bc obviously they are clueless as to the fan thoughts on the matter.

Well i know freelancers are working on stuff. They havent really slowed down from what.i can tell.

While I agree that there is little communication about the current situation of the star Wars RPG line, I would like to submit the following evidence about the GW situation with FFG.

FFG did communication to us that they were separating from GW using the news pages in September 2016. The separation happened in Feb 2017.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/9/a-new-path-forward/

I would like to think that if FFG was to separate from Lucasfilm/Disney we would get a similar news article.

2 hours ago, Cynabar said:

While I agree that there is little communication about the current situation of the star Wars RPG line, I would like to submit the following evidence about the GW situation with FFG.

FFG did communication to us that they were separating from GW using the news pages in September 2016. The separation happened in Feb 2017.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/9/9/a-new-path-forward/

I would like to think that if FFG was to separate from Lucasfilm/Disney we would get a similar news article.

September isn't that far away... ?

Mhm, there was an article, at least.

My only real complaint with how the GW thing was handled was how many 40krpg splatbooks sat awaiting reprints on the upcoming page for well over a year before that happened, necessitating some major expenditure on my part just to get hold of them, since those long-awaited reprints never came.

I'd hope any future situations like that at least get a final announced print run.

9 minutes ago, CeilingSquid said:

I'd hope any future situations like that at least get a final announced print run.

Consider how long it takes to get a print run printed, shipped, and delivered. Now keep in mind that they usually can't sell the product at all from the moment the contract expires, so they really would need to have a few months to sell it before the deadline. This means that only print runs already "on the boat" have any chance of getting out if a six-month "death notice" is given, and it's possible that even those might lead to some product being destroyed.

How does this affect your predictions`?

https://www.geeknative.com/62417/christian-t-petersen-steps-fantasy-flight-asmodee/

Christian T. Petersen steps down from Fantasy Flight and Asmodee

"Christian T. Petersen is perhaps best well known as the founder of Fantasy Flight Games. He wrote the Nocturnum set of adventures of Call of Cthulhu with Darrell Hardy, co-designed the Game of Thrones wargame and worked on Doom: The Boardgame.

In 2014 Petersen became the CEO of Asmodee North America. Asmodee is a well backed French publisher and holding company which had been aggressively buying up other companies and licenses. It was Asmodee which secured the rights to Catan.

He was the CEO of Asmodee North America for four years."

“The games to be released from our U.S. studios over the next 6-12 months, represent the final game products in which I have played a part. I could not have hoped for a more innovative, more commercially exciting, or more satisfying finale.

Well, at least they finished the career books.

23 minutes ago, Vorzakk said:

Well, at least they finished the career books.

Seems more like he is retiring. That is not a bad sign. Especially if that other firm is buying Asmodee. It would mean he is basically cashing out.

What matters is who is taking over and are they any good?