Waitaminute. What if he's an ordnance counter?

"At the start of the combat phase

you may choose one enemy ship at

Range 1 and a <missile> or <torpedo> upgrade equipped to

it, discard that card and any tokens on it."

As a way to make upgrade discards not so overpowered, perhaps it is triggered on death like a REALLY big dead man's

Would love to see people try to shoot him then

Sure, the ability seems sh*tty cause it doesn't do much Ito mods, but the psychological effects of it could be huge and having an "antibiggs" on a 4 hull ship could be...big

Waitaminute. What if he's an ordnance counter?

"At the start of the combat phase

you may choose one enemy ship at

Range 1 and a <missile> or <torpedo> upgrade equipped to

it, discard that card and any tokens on it."

Ugh.. I'm not squeezing that language into my blurb haha

But this seems legitimate - FFG did say "direct counter" to Triple Scouts in Wave IX, did they not?

Waitaminute. What if he's an ordnance counter?

"At the start of the combat phase

you may choose one enemy ship at

Range 1 and a <missile> or <torpedo> upgrade equipped to

it, discard that card and any tokens on it."

That grammar seems atypical for an FFG card. I feel like if it was that sort of ability, it would read more like this:

"At the start of the Combat phase, you may choose one enemy ship at Range 1. If you do, choose and discard one of that ship's [missile] or [torpedo] Upgrade cards and any tokens assigned to that Upgrade card."

I seriously doubt that that's what it is. It's way too close to Boba Fett's ability, and I think it would be way too powerful. At least Boba has to hit AND deal a faceup card, AND you have to discard the card in order to use him.

I'm still stuck on the reward for being inside your enemy's firing arc that the article pointed out. As I said, we've only seen 2 of the (supposedly) 3 cards that provide some sort of reward for flying into an enemy's firing arc. Maybe it's something where if you're in an enemy arc and at Range 1, choose and discard one of their tokens.

At the ( beginning )( end ) [of the] ( Activation )( Combat )( End ) [phase]

you may [choose one] ( friendly )( enemy ) [ship at]

Range [1](-( 2 )( 3 )) [and] ( choose one ) OR ( assign one ) ...

(face-up damage card)

(face-down damage card)

(evade token)

(focus token)

(blue target-lock token)

(red target-lock token)

(stress token)

(ion token)

(tractor beam token)

... (assigned to)( token/card to )

it, discard [that] ( token )( card ) ( at the (beginning)(end) of the ) ( Combat )( End ) [phase]

Sorry if that is confusing..

I'm thinking there are number of ways this could go: Old Teroch is either discarding a token/card from an enemy ship OR giving a temporary buff to a friendly ship, which is discarded at the end of some subsequent round.

Thoughts?

At least the way you theorize it, I think that comma after "it" really screws with the wording that FFG usually uses (as I said in my last post). I'm not fully convinced the comma is there, either. The picture is just too unclear.

FFG lower-case T's are pretty swoopy. It may just be "it discard...."

At the ( beginning )( end ) [of the] ( Activation )( Combat )( End ) [phase]

you may [choose one] ( friendly )( enemy ) [ship at]

Range [1](-( 2 )( 3 )) [and] ( choose one ) OR ( assign one ) ...

(face-up damage card)

(face-down damage card)

(evade token)

(focus token)

(blue target-lock token)

(red target-lock token)

(stress token)

(ion token)

(tractor beam token)

... (assigned to)( token/card to )

it, discard [that] ( token )( card ) ( at the (beginning)(end) of the ) ( Combat )( End ) [phase]

Sorry if that is confusing..

I'm thinking there are number of ways this could go: Old Teroch is either discarding a token/card from an enemy ship OR giving a temporary buff to a friendly ship, which is discarded at the end of some subsequent round.

Thoughts?

At least the way you theorize it, I think that comma after "it" really screws with the wording that FFG usually uses (as I said in my last post). I'm not fully convinced the comma is there, either. The picture is just too unclear.

FFG lower-case T's are pretty swoopy. It may just be "it discard...."

I love this community. No sarcasm or irony.

Well, what if you discard a token from an Enemy ship at range one. It uses the language Discard due to it includes Extra Munitions tokens.

Well, what if you discard a token from an Enemy ship at range one. It uses the language Discard due to it includes Extra Munitions tokens.

That's where I'm leaning. Discarding a focus token would certainly put a damper on the scouts.

I infer that the card will read as follows:

At the WINTER OF YOUR DISCONTENT,

you mAY TARGET ANY ENEMY SHIP AT

Range 1-3. ROLL 7 ATTACK DICE. IF ONE HITS

it, discaRD THE TARGET SHIP'S PILOT CARD INTO A FIRE.

BUT THE WINTER OF MY DISCONTENT was _JUST_ MADE GLORIOUS SUMMER BY THIS SON OF VADER!

Bet you it discards focus tokens from an enemy ship within range 1. This makes him a PS7, poor man's Carnor.

PS8 is a big deal, after all.

I'm wishfully thinking it is anti-ordinance, though.

Here's a productive conversation: What does the lore tell us about Old Trench? Maybe there are hints there.

Talk amongst yourselves while I Google this...

There's quite a bit. The first thing to note is that Wookipedia only acknowledges one member of the Teroch Squad by name: Fi Skirata.

As the one survivor of the so named squad, I would imagine he could take on the moniker "Old Teroch," right? Right.

After Teroch Squad, Fi moves onto Omega Squad (elite clone commando unit), where he's a bit of a badass but ultimately ends up in a coma. He recovers and moves to Mandalore and, wearing the armor of a deceased Mandolorian, takes up with some combination of mercenaries and Jedi.

Unfortunately, no where in these article does it mention his piloting ability. He is a charismatic prankster with a knack for martyrdom...

However! Other sources call Fi a sniper. That's relevant and would support the idea that he removes focus or evade tokens from an enemy ship - but it also makes you wonder if the range isn't further that range 1.

That's all I've got for now...

Fi is a sniper

But he's old; his vision ain't what it used to be

Hence range 1

Fi is a sniper

But he's old; his vision ain't what it used to be

Hence range 1

The Old Mando Clone, He 'aint What he Used to be,.......

There's quite a bit. The first thing to note is that Wookipedia only acknowledges one member of the Teroch Squad by name: Fi Skirata.

As the one survivor of the so named squad, I would imagine he could take on the moniker "Old Teroch," right? Right.

After Teroch Squad, Fi moves onto Omega Squad (elite clone commando unit), where he's a bit of a badass but ultimately ends up in a coma. He recovers and moves to Mandalore and, wearing the armor of a deceased Mandolorian, takes up with some combination of mercenaries and Jedi.

Unfortunately, no where in these article does it mention his piloting ability. He is a charismatic prankster with a knack for martyrdom...

However! Other sources call Fi a sniper. That's relevant and would support the idea that he removes focus or evade tokens from an enemy ship - but it also makes you wonder if the range isn't further that range 1.

That's all I've got for now...

I'd be pumped if they included characters from the Karen Traviss books. I was kind of pissed off when The Clone Wars series went and wiped out most of the Mandolorian culture that she had built and how clones were adopting it as their own.