I think that looking at it percentage-wise only clouds the picture. The real question for bid selection is - what types of fleets do you want to outbid?

I personally usually do opposite to what HERO is suggesting and use a pretty small bid with the idea of outgunning fleets that decided to go big and outbidding fleets that decided to go home and use full 400 points.

Sure, but I think this has a lot about whether you want to play the objectives for example, and want to play second, because you have a fleet that accommodates to that. Likewise, if I'm betting on going first, you **** well know that I will pay a pretty penny for that outrageous initiative bid.

At the end of the day, it comes down to the fleet again.

If anything, I'd be interested in know what categorization of fleet these players are bidding at. My Rebel Carriers fleet runs at 400 while my AckbarBB runs at typically <390. It's a big difference, with two completely different objectives.

All true, my point is that there are fleets that are perfectly comfortable to be in the middle and spend some small amount of points on the first player bid without going all in.

Right, which is probably why we see the point-ranges we do in the first place. However, it's also to be noted that sometimes, you just end up with XYZ amount of points. I doubt, but encourage, players to look at their meta and evaluate which is the common bid to beat.

About to go hard-nerd right now, but it's kinda like competitive Pokemon battling right. Knowing that a specific IV/Nature will outrun XYZ in the meta is vital in the selection process. Same thing here.

More specific Armada example: The clonisher netlist's speed was 387. Out-run it at 386, or even 385 to be safe and that Demolisher thinks twice before approaching a AckbarBB. In fact, this is exactly what I did that carried me to my third Store Championship win in the spring season where I faced TWO almost identical builds running DeMSU

Again, all true. Know your meta, what fleets are likely to be there and what they can afford. (For example DeMSU can do a 30 or 40 points bid without losing Clonisher or the number of activations and I believe that netlisting a well-known list that heavily relies on it's bid without changing it means asking for trouble big time)

We have people who routinely bid to 380 here, without even having a Demolisher in their list... Its very much a case of "know your Meta", and acknowledging that your meta is not the world meta, because if I tried to pass off mine as yours, I'd be a liar

I think that looking at it percentage-wise only clouds the picture. The real question for bid selection is - what types of fleets do you want to outbid?

I personally usually do opposite to what HERO is suggesting and use a pretty small bid with the idea of outgunning fleets that decided to go big and outbidding fleets that decided to go home and use full 400 points.

Sure, but I think this has a lot about whether you want to play the objectives for example, and want to play second, because you have a fleet that accommodates to that. Likewise, if I'm betting on going first, you **** well know that I will pay a pretty penny for that outrageous initiative bid.

At the end of the day, it comes down to the fleet again.

If anything, I'd be interested in know what categorization of fleet these players are bidding at. My Rebel Carriers fleet runs at 400 while my AckbarBB runs at typically <390. It's a big difference, with two completely different objectives.

All true, my point is that there are fleets that are perfectly comfortable to be in the middle and spend some small amount of points on the first player bid without going all in.

Right, which is probably why we see the point-ranges we do in the first place. However, it's also to be noted that sometimes, you just end up with XYZ amount of points. I doubt, but encourage, players to look at their meta and evaluate which is the common bid to beat.

About to go hard-nerd right now, but it's kinda like competitive Pokemon battling right. Knowing that a specific IV/Nature will outrun XYZ in the meta is vital in the selection process. Same thing here.

More specific Armada example: The clonisher netlist's speed was 387. Out-run it at 386, or even 385 to be safe and that Demolisher thinks twice before approaching a AckbarBB. In fact, this is exactly what I did that carried me to my third Store Championship win in the spring season where I faced TWO almost identical builds running DeMSU

Again, all true. Know your meta, what fleets are likely to be there and what they can afford. (For example DeMSU can do a 30 or 40 points bid without losing Clonisher or the number of activations and I believe that netlisting a well-known list that heavily relies on it's bid without changing it means asking for trouble big time)

I know you and I are going back and forth on this and share a lot of common ground, but I'd also like to mention that this is probably one of biggest advantages of going super fat, aiming to go second with a 400 point list. When you don't care to go first, you really don't care and it allows you to run as fat as you wish. If you want to go first, you really do, to a point where your list and judgement might suffer from it.

Just some food for thought to everyone out there.