Sensor Cluster - When Defending you may spend 1 focus to change a blank to an evade.

R3- you may cancel an attk to give your ship an evade token.

Poe (PS9) - If you have a focus token change a focus to an evade.

Stealth Dev - give an extra Green die.

Vet Ins (PS11)

So does this make Poe too good?

I was thinking:

PS9 poe - 33

PTL - 3

Black One - 1

R2D2 - 4

Sensor Cluster - 2

Autothrusters - 2

45 Points

This probably makes him too good.

Do you mean Weapons Guidance?

At 45 points, Poe will never be too good.

Do you mean Weapons Guidance?

At 45 points, Poe will never be too good.

No it's the new Sensor in the Sf preview.

I was thinking:

PS9 poe - 33

PTL - 3

Black One - 1

R2D2 - 4

Sensor Cluster - 2

Autothrusters - 2

45 Points

This probably makes him too good.

I like the base 3 agi over auto but can see that. It's a huge point cost but man this jerk is going to be tough to kill.

So let's get this straight...

Poe takes a focus action

Poe attacks, and assuming you roll a focus, you do one less damage (unless you managed to roll 2 focuses) and don't use his ability. But R3 gives you an evade.

Poe is attacked and rolls 3 dice (via stealth). A focus changes to an evade, you can spend another evade token, and then you can spend your focus to change a blank.

Next attack you can't do anything.

Except for the turn that you die, how is the Sensor Cluster better than R5P9? I understand it's a point cheaper, but it negates his ability for all future shots.

Congrats!

You're strictly worse than r5p9

Except in the case were your get one round without the evade, but then you're limping around at 1 hull

Seriously, both upgrades are utterly at odds with his ability AND auto thrusters. Asty would be your man (white troll for focus) and even then r3 is hot garbage

Do you mean Weapons Guidance?

At 45 points, Poe will never be too good.

No it's the new Sensor in the Sf preview.

Ah, hadn't seen it. Thanks.

Still, no. Poe doesn't want to be spending his focus token on that really...

Theres a major aspect about the tokenstackers people usually forget. Soontir is deadly because he is 3agi base and can reliably get his tokens every round completely self sufficient.

Anyone that doesnt inherently have that ability and tries to do that usually pay through the nose, its unreliable, its one use, or all the above.

Poe will pull this off slightly less than 50% of the time, the moment hes hit (3agi isnt that hard to hit) he loses an agi, its cutting his damage, and just like ANY token stacker the moment they do it the next guy that fires at them is going to have a field day.

I fully expect the tech slot to pop up all over the place, even in tie/fo's because thats a pretty good tech. R3? feth no.

I was thinking:

PS9 poe - 33

PTL - 3

Black One - 1

R2D2 - 4

Sensor Cluster - 2

Autothrusters - 2

45 Points

This probably makes him too good.

The PS9 poe is already overpriced.

why even bother?

Poe is needed in a TLT-filled meta, where he wipes the floor with them and threatens acewing at PS10

R3, Juke and Sensor Cluster on a Red Vet would be a solid choice in my books.

Theres a major aspect about the tokenstackers people usually forget. Soontir is deadly because he is 3agi base and can reliably get his tokens every round completely self sufficient.

Anyone that doesnt inherently have that ability and tries to do that usually pay through the nose, its unreliable, its one use, or all the above.

Poe will pull this off slightly less than 50% of the time, the moment hes hit (3agi isnt that hard to hit) he loses an agi, its cutting his damage, and just like ANY token stacker the moment they do it the next guy that fires at them is going to have a field day.

I fully expect the tech slot to pop up all over the place, even in tie/fo's because thats a pretty good tech. R3? feth no.

Ok I was not understanding the quick response to why this is bad. I was thinking new cards I want them to work and stack everything to prevent hits and 3 agi is a huge stop towards a lot of incoming damage. I will rethink my Strag.

I think that Sensor Cluster actually works very well with VI+R2D2+AT Poe. The majority of the time he has already benefited from his ability while attacking and knows how many attacks he'll need to defend against.

The combo of his ability, Autothrusters, Sensor Clusters, and a focus token that he is willing to spend guarantees 2 evades when defending against out of arc attacks and almost guarantee 3 evades when defending at range 3 (only triple blanks will result in two evades). Against an attack that doesn't trigger Autothrusters, Poe gets two evades on every roll except for double blanks.

Sensor Jammer seems like a decent choice if you can spare the points, R3 is going to have a hard time finding anywhere to be really useful.

I just don't understand the logic behind R3 at all! It costs the same as Sensor Cluster, is less reliable, and (currently) takes up a slot with much better competition. How could these two upgrades be released in the same wave and cost the same number of points? And that still doesn't address why it's not a much needed boost to generics!

What are we not seeing that the developers saw? I havent even seen any fun gimmicks that I particularly want to try out in casual play (except maybe gunner/Luke on Norra).

Edit: Oh and Lone Wolf + R3/IA on a T-65. Probably Porkins, because why not.

I was thinking:

PS9 poe - 33

PTL - 3

Black One - 1

R2D2 - 4

Sensor Cluster - 2

Autothrusters - 2

45 Points

This probably makes him too good.

The PS9 poe is already overpriced.

why even bother?

Poe is needed in a TLT-filled meta, where he wipes the floor with them and threatens acewing at PS10

Yes, I agree, but who can justify a "too good" (very debatable) ship with that potential damage output at 45 points?

........I for one cannot.

I was thinking:

PS9 poe - 33

PTL - 3

Black One - 1

R2D2 - 4

Sensor Cluster - 2

Autothrusters - 2

45 Points

This probably makes him too good.

The PS9 poe is already overpriced.

why even bother?

Poe is needed in a TLT-filled meta, where he wipes the floor with them and threatens acewing at PS10

Yes, I agree, but who can justify a "too good" (very debatable) ship with that potential damage output at 45 points?

........I for one cannot.

45 points is Whisper-level. Too hard to justify it, even at PS9 and with all the goodies.

it WILL melt

and it WILL melt faster than any opposition.

I was thinking:

PS9 poe - 33

PTL - 3

Black One - 1

R2D2 - 4

Sensor Cluster - 2

Autothrusters - 2

45 Points

This probably makes him too good.

The PS9 poe is already overpriced.

why even bother?

Poe is needed in a TLT-filled meta, where he wipes the floor with them and threatens acewing at PS10

Yes, I agree, but who can justify a "too good" (very debatable) ship with that potential damage output at 45 points?

........I for one cannot.

Remember that time Rebels would just outlast you? And when 55 points sounded suspiciously like Dash Rendar time?

I do.

Seriously though, yea, I think a Poe who is extremely likely to get 2 dodges every time he rolls dice and be able to regen shields to be pretty insane I might go predator though because PtL is likely just going to give you TL every round anyway. He is likely to get 2-3 damage each time he rolls if you go that route.

I find it hard to imagine this not being competitive. And if it isn't, you can always shave a few by going the old card + VI as normal and sit at 41. You can possibly skip the title as well to be at 40 that way. which seems a decent improvement over the heavily played 38 point variety.

Do you mean Weapons Guidance?

At 45 points, Poe will never be too good.

No it's the new Sensor in the Sf preview.

Ah, hadn't seen it. Thanks.

Still, no. Poe doesn't want to be spending his focus token on that really...

What would he rather spend it on? Being able to consistently have 2 evade results just about every time you roll seems horribly frustrating on a ship that has 6 health and can regen shields. Especially since at range 3 it is also heavily likely to be 3 evades.

R3, Juke and Sensor Cluster on a Red Vet would be a solid choice in my books.

Generelly yes, but his low PS could be a problem for using the evade token when firing last.

Especially since at range 3 it is also heavily likely to be 3 evades.

Is "heavily likely" the same thing as "almost always"?

For clarification's sake "almost always" means 98.4% of the time.

Sensor Cluster - When Defending you may spend 1 focus to change a blank to an evade.

R3- you may cancel an attk to give your ship an evade token.

Poe (PS9) - If you have a focus token change a focus to an evade.

Stealth Dev - give an extra Green die.

Vet Ins (PS11)

So does this make Poe too good?

No, it make him near indestructible but his damage output goes down. And that is mostly the reason why I put him in my list. To do damage. I don't know, I kind of like the R3 and Sensor Cluster but not on Poe Dameron. Yeah and because it's Poe Dameron. He can fly anything and is really cool.

My first thought is that's a lot of points for a 2atk ship... Your damage output is compromised and if you don't have a shot at all then you don't get the evade, no evade means you're more likely to lose stealth. Also R3 only triggers by cancelling a [focus] atk die so it's not inconceivable that you roll hit-hit-blank and still lose half the combo.

The only R3 combo I'm looking forward to trying is with Comm Relay so my T-70 can lose a due then save the evade for later.

The only R3 combo I'm looking forward to trying is with Comm Relay so my T-70 can lose a due then save the evade for later.

Still seems like a poor-man's Red Ace and uses up the Astromech slot to boot (although you may be able to get some mileage out of the EPT).