Plus he wasn't running around with an energy slingshot like Dennis the Menace.

Neither does Ezra in rebels, outside of 4-5 episodes in the first half of the first season.

Plus he wasn't running around with an energy slingshot like Dennis the Menace.

Neither does Ezra in rebels, outside of 4-5 episodes in the first half of the first season.

So... he does.

Nice try, but Luke was atleast 18 years old in A New Hope. Plus he wasn't running around with an energy slingshot like Dennis the Menace. But keep trying Rebel's fanboy.

Your "point" is based on the notion that Luke would be a legal adult on earth at the time of ANH? lol okay. I've never watched Rebels at all, it doesn't interest me in the least. But maybe you should post better, as the heroes in Star Wars spend almost 100% of the time opposing authority. It's in their very name. Come on now, man. You don't like the more youth-oriented stuff in Star Wars, fine. But let's not kid ourselves about that being a significant part of the foundation upon which the entire property is built.

'Post better'? Thats a new one. Never heard that from a troll before.

Patrickmahan is doing his best Agent Blaise pose... *snicker*

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Old Agent Blaise is at it again.

"SCREW YOU DISNEY, GET OFF MY EU"



If I know anything it's that Disney "The mouse" keeps putting young hot shots who whine and seem gifted in the force at the front running of a team of outlaws and bandits turned to a greater cause through shared suffering and empathy into my Star Wars. And we all know that isn't Star Wars.

Star Wars is obviously about Government actions, Bureaucratic lobbying and votes. Lots of Votes.
Rebels doesn't have enough voting.

So... if Rebels is too "youth oriented" for some people, I'm betting The Freemaker Adventures is right out! BTW, it too is still better than the last 4 movies and from the trailer, the next one too. "I'm a rebel, I rebel!" *facepalm*

Wow the trolls are really out now. Man my ignore list is getting pretty big.

Wow the trolls are really out now. Man my ignore list is getting pretty big.

Ah, the last resort of a man who doesn't like the opinions of others (when they disagree with his)

"I'll mute them, so I'm never challenged in my opinions ever again"

And disagreeing is "trolling" apparently.

'Post better'? Thats a new one. Never heard that from a troll before.

I'm not trolling at trolling at all. It is nigh impossible to take you seriously if your claim is that Luke doesn't count as, "like punk/kids opposing adults and society. (I.E. being annoying)" because he was 18. That is the height of pedantry. Luke is a kid opposing authority in ANH. Luke is annoying in ANH. This makes him endearing, it makes his accomplishments special, it gives his character room to grow. If you meant something other than what you typed, then yes... post better, please.

'Post better'? Thats a new one. Never heard that from a troll before.

I'm not trolling at trolling at all. It is nigh impossible to take you seriously if your claim is that Luke doesn't count as, "like punk/kids opposing adults and society. (I.E. being annoying)" because he was 18. That is the height of pedantry. Luke is a kid opposing authority in ANH. Luke is annoying in ANH. This makes him endearing, it makes his accomplishments special, it gives his character room to grow. If you meant something other than what you typed, then yes... post better, please.

I would disagree. Luke wants to join the Rebellion, not steal fruit from the Empire as well as innocent vendors. And shame on whoever posted the pic of Mark Hamill in lots of make up, just because it makes him look younger! He had just been in a car accident; I'm sure he would appreciate you exploiting that. At least he never had effeminate blue hair!

'Post better'? Thats a new one. Never heard that from a troll before.

I'm not trolling at trolling at all. It is nigh impossible to take you seriously if your claim is that Luke doesn't count as, "like punk/kids opposing adults and society. (I.E. being annoying)" because he was 18. That is the height of pedantry. Luke is a kid opposing authority in ANH. Luke is annoying in ANH. This makes him endearing, it makes his accomplishments special, it gives his character room to grow. If you meant something other than what you typed, then yes... post better, please.

When Star Wars' kid heroes get to the annoyance of Shinji Ikari from Neon Genesis Evangelion, then you might have a point. Until then, trust me, "annoying" is anything but. And this is the classic tale of a kid/young adult who has to GROW UP. If Ezra continues down the "annoyance" path when he's been fighting for 5+ years with the Rebel Alliance, then maybe I can see your point. But it's all supposed to be character development. He's supposed to be young, naïve, rebellious, and act like a kid. Hell I bet when we were all 6-18, we were annoying to adults. We had high squeak pitched voices that made adults roll their eyes. So why can't a character (whose made up) have those same traits?

Heck, even look at the Hobbit novel/movie. Bilbo Baggins was a whiney, short man who complained about dirty laundry and sleeping on the ground to a bunch of burly slightly taller guys who wielded big axes and swords on a long journey to do a quest. All in the end to still be basically the same, but a bit more appreciative of what he had and what he had accomplished in "growing up" even more than he already was supposed to be an adult. Same can be said about Frodo Baggins even more so in the LotR novels/movies. They're supposed to be weak and in the end, become stronger and become the heroes who triumphant!

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I agree with everything you said, you may have quoted the wrong person.

Patrickmahan has trolled too much to ever be able to call anyone a troll. Not that he doesn't have good input from time to time, but yeah.

As far as Rebels being a bunch of punk kids opposing authority... well, there's two gifted teens under the leadership of some adults who are resisting the Empire. Ezra is a little thief at the beginning of the show who corrects his ways, they don't steal from innocents they cause problems for the empire.

If you want to say that Rebels is too silly and kiddy and that's why you don't like it, that's totally fine. The fact is that if you liked Ewoks as a kid you would have loved Rebels as a kid too.

I started this thread for people who love the EU, or people like me who love parts of the EU (like Thrawn). It was an attempt to be happy that they brought Thrawn back into canon, which opens up all kinds of future possibilities for that character. Instead of being happy and thankful about what we got, some have chosen to complain that we didn't get more or that we didn't get it the way we wanted to get it! If this is the common behavior of the EU hardcore (which I don't think it is), it wouldn't surprise me if the designers of Star Wars chose to never bring another EU character in from this point on.

I agree with everything you said, you may have quoted the wrong person.

I was more reinforcing your points towards patrickmahan.

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I don't think anything said here matters a hill of beans to Filoni and friends. I am actually happy that Thrawn is back. I liked the character even though I think he could have been written better. I'm not EU fanboy. There was a great deal in the EU I hated. I'll cop to not liking Rebels. I was hoping for some departure from the main story and into a little bit more unexplored territory, but instead it is a compilation of Star Wars characters, cobbled together because too many people expect, or the creators expect they expect, the same old crap. It also seems the EU characters were stupid, until they were included in official canon, then they aren't. So I'm tired of the same characters over and over and over again. Maybe the ghost crew could have grown on me more if they weren't just the gel to put all the other IP characters into the show. Though I think the substandard, compared to Clone Wars, animation didn't help. And with all the characters they rehash, they don't bring in Boba Fett, who should be at the peak of his rep building about now. Though, to be fair, I'm not sure I want him included.

The only animated Star Wars series I really was Clone Wars (Not to be confused with The Clone Wars). It was everything the prequels should have been.

While I am happy to see Thrawn make the leap to the new cannon I can think of more appropriate places to fit him in.

He would have been great as the head of the Imperial Remnant which as far as I can tell is distinct from the First Order. Episode VII wasn't so great on the whole splainin things bit. Audiences could be kept guessing as to which side he would come in on if any.

While I am happy to see Thrawn make the leap to the new cannon I can think of more appropriate places to fit him in.

He would have been great as the head of the Imperial Remnant which as far as I can tell is distinct from the First Order. Episode VII wasn't so great on the whole splainin things bit. Audiences could be kept guessing as to which side he would come in on if any.

He could still easily be running The First Order. After the Empire crumbles, he could be part of the larger picture in restoring their power. Just bc someone is in Rebels, doesnt mean they cant show up in the new movies...

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Heck, even look at the Hobbit novel/movie. Bilbo Baggins was a whiney, short man who complained about dirty laundry and sleeping on the ground to a bunch of burly slightly taller guys who wielded big axes and swords on a long journey to do a quest. All in the end to still be basically the same, but a bit more appreciative of what he had and what he had accomplished in "growing up" even more than he already was supposed to be an adult. Same can be said about Frodo Baggins even more so in the LotR novels/movies. They're supposed to be weak and in the end, become stronger and become the heroes who triumphant!~D

"The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow!" How DARE you compare Ezra to these ingenious works of literature! Star Wars at its best can NEVER compare to the masterpieces of Tolkien! You are truly an ignorant cretin if you even Think that they can be compared to ezra bridger (I won't even capitalize his name after this) and have gained my everlasting disrespect!

Rebels is first and foremost, a kids show, it has a rating of Y7 doesn't it (might be off on the rating)? Us adults whining about how goofy and childish it is, is kinda silly, isn't it? Take the show for what it is, a cool, if somewhat goofy and disjointed, Star Wars cartoon. I would've killed to have a cartoon showing off all the cool stuff I saw in the movies and read in the books when I was a kid! Instead I played out my own Star Wars fantasies of Rebels against the Empire with all of my Star Wars figures I had as a kid. Does the show have some issues? Sure, but don't hold your breath waiting for a more "adult" Star Wars animated series to materialize.

Heck, even look at the Hobbit novel/movie. Bilbo Baggins was a whiney, short man who complained about dirty laundry and sleeping on the ground to a bunch of burly slightly taller guys who wielded big axes and swords on a long journey to do a quest. All in the end to still be basically the same, but a bit more appreciative of what he had and what he had accomplished in "growing up" even more than he already was supposed to be an adult. Same can be said about Frodo Baggins even more so in the LotR novels/movies. They're supposed to be weak and in the end, become stronger and become the heroes who triumphant!~D

"The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow!" How DARE you compare Ezra to these ingenious works of literature! Star Wars at its best can NEVER compare to the masterpieces of Tolkien! You are truly an ignorant cretin if you even Think that they can be compared to ezra bridger (I won't even capitalize his name after this) and have gained my everlasting disrespect!

I suggest you dial down your name-calling, as someone merely trying to draw parallels between two stories and the characters within doesn't justify such a response.

We all have things that we love, and obviously you're allowed to be passionate about the quality of one thing vs another.

But verbally attacking someone is a step too far.

I apologize, HoodieDM, I obviously overreacted last night. Everyone is entitled to his opinion [even if it is wrong ]. Unfortunately, I fear I have little positive to add to this forum. There have been some good times and some bad. So Good bye everyone!

@Thrawn skin colour, from "Heir to the Empire", chapter 1:

He [Thrawn] sat motionlessly, his shimmery blue-black hair glinting in the dim light, his pale blue skin looking cool and subdued and very alien on his otherwise human frame.

I apologize, HoodieDM, I obviously overreacted last night. Everyone is entitled to his opinion [even if it is wrong ]. Unfortunately, I fear I have little positive to add to this forum. There have been some good times and some bad. So Good bye everyone!

Im not trying to compare the writing and storytelling. Im trying to compare that deep down, the initial character is no different than any of the heroes in SW, esp Ezra/Luke/Rey. Just in the end, Ezra seems the worst to you bc he is a whiney kid, but thats bc he IS a kid. So I think the writers did a good job if youre complaining about Ezra being a kid.

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Nice trailer. I just have to laugh at people who don't like Rebels, it's so much better than the last 4 movies and based on it's trailer, the next movie too.

Hahaha That's a good one! Nothing makes me think of Star Wars like graffitied Tie Fighters, Hardy and Laurelesque Imperial officers, and Lando having "get rich" schemes dealing with inflatable aardvarks! And that's just the first season! If the first season of Rebels did anything for me, it was give me a newfound respect for Jar Jar!

I have to agree ... Loved Clone Wars,..Rebels just never seems to draw me in, Finally gave in and just watched the first series, and just find myself not really caring about the characters, I actively dislike 1 or 2 and hope they might killed off, fat chance with Happy Disney. Animation is meh, all very Disney with animals you would expect to find in the Lion King.

That said Very Nice to hear Thrawn is back, but lets see how Disney deal with him, and why is he wearing eye make up??