New Rogue One ship spotted

By patox, in X-Wing

It's not about whether it's realistic, it's that having wings bigger than the actual ship looks silly. Plus, Vader and even the Emperor himself fly around in regular (on the outside) Lambdas, but the ISB Director needs his own special shuttle?

Edited by Red XIV

Disney likes big wings apparently, between this and Kylo Ren's shuttle,

Looks like a mix between a Lambda and a Mouse droid.

Whoever is on the design team for 'Rogue One' really needs to be replaced. Honestly, *nothing* coming out of that movie is looking remotely good, or very 'Star Wars' at all...

The end result might not be visually appealing to you, but it wasn't for a lack of effort. The original ship and deathstar designs ultimately were created by cobbling together assorted pieces from various model kits that were purchasable at the time. To achieve the same aesthetic, they bought as many of these same kits as they could get their hands on from ebay, etc. and then scanned/rendered each piece separately so they could go through the same creation process all over again, with the same pieces, but this time via CGI. Might not matter for some, but I think that's pretty cool.

This shuttle doesn't even have greebles, so no, that's not how it was created.

It's not about whether it's realistic, it's that having wings bigger than the actual ship looks silly. Plus, Vader and even he Emperor himself fly around in regular (on the outside) Lambdas, but the ISB Director needs his own special shuttle?

hey man, at least it gets peripheral vision

unlike our poor Tie classic

also, the ISB director needs his own shuttle to distinguish him from palp/vader and to set him up as an egotistical bastard what needs his own dang shuttle

personally, I don't like this new shuttle much (the wings are ridiculous, and that's coming from a K-wing lover, which makes the puny little fin at the top just look hilarious)

it also looks a little like someone strapped wings to that wheeled butter dish from A New Hope

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So many old grumpy men who strangled their inner child long ago, everything from Rogue One so far looks freaking cool. That is not a matter of opinion, thats fact.

It's hard to argue with facts.

The wings on the shuttle is plain stupid.

There is no obvious reason to be designed with wings that are 10 times over sized.

Over-compensation. The new shuttles do that.

The wings on the shuttle is plain stupid.

There is no obvious reason to be designed with wings that are 10 times over sized.

Over-compensation. The new shuttles do that.

it's one of those "Show don't tell" thingies that tells us something about the movie's villian that he himself would never admit ;)

So many old grumpy men who strangled their inner child long ago, everything from Rogue One so far looks freaking cool. That is not a matter of opinion, thats fact.

My inner child's fine it's just got good taste and standards.

Would be cool if that slot at the bottom was for airlifting AT-ATs and the wings were that large so that the shuttle's deflector shields could be extended around the carried AT-AT to protect it during combat drops.

But something sadly tells me it's just got huge freaking wings for no good reason...

Edited by Makaze

I suspect it's a stealth shuttle. The wings are there for heat dispersal, reducing the infrared profile. Assuming correct material construction, they won't present a meaningful radar cross-section even broadside-on, and from the front they'll be close to inviisible.

said it before i'll say it again.

It looks like a Lambda shuttle ripoff. Lambda shuttle is already stupid as hell looking. There is no reason for a wingspan like that not even in atmosphere. I used to be Avionics for the U-2, that thing has a ~100ft wingspan because it gives it insane lift vs thrust. Difference though is theyre actually WINGS: wtf are those things doing? If they were affected by the atmosphere at all they'd be making this thing insanely unstable and wobbly, which can easily cause it to crash.

Please stop applying real world physics and aerodynamics to Star Wars, it makes no sense what so ever.

30 years ago, if that shuttle was a toy, admit it you guys would be swooping that thing around, with death troopers and white cloak guy inside as action figures. Its the secret intelligence factions transport, off course its going to look wierd, off etc. You are supposed to get an amount of uncertanty looking at this thing. For all the established design rules and heavy lore, I think the design team of Rogue One have done a stellar job. A certain group of fans you can never satiesfy, no matter what, its their loss. So far I am stoked about every new vehicle.

Theres a certain degree of illogical ship design i simply cant overlook. Even as a kid i thought the Lambda looked stupid with those wings.

In fact far as i can think of the only scifi to even attempt to apply real space-physics to their ships was Babylon 5 human ships. The fighters had thrustors pointing in all directions and you'd see them fire off alot.

Startrek got away with their design because they use "Impulse engines" to move...wtf are those? new tech that works in all directions.

Starwars uses jet thrustors. Cool ship designs overlook the illogical design flaws, but when it isnt cool (this stupid shuttle) then it cant use the "rule of cool" anymore

Spaceship design though is completely different. I could believe the stealth claim Levi put up, saying its there to diffuse its heat signature and that does actually make sense. But its a shuttle, meaning its going to enter atmospheric environments a lot. Moment it does that with wings like that its going to have issues unless it moves like a snail.

Im sorry but when you actually know how that stuff works you cant ignore it completely. Its ingrained lol.

Edited by Vineheart01

Its funny you have a problem with the Lambda, the Tie fighters must make you nuts then? Nothing practical or realistic about their design at all, considering in the Star Wars universe, just about any shape or form can be made to fly or hover with tiny engines. The Tie should just be a ball flying around, the wings obscure te view, makes it super difficult for the pilot to get in etc :)

I'm still convinced that thing is far larger than we assume, CR-90 size for the main part, Nebulon Frigate size total.

Its funny you have a problem with the Lambda, the Tie fighters must make you nuts then? Nothing practical or realistic about their design at all, considering in the Star Wars universe, just about any shape or form can be made to fly or hover with tiny engines. The Tie should just be a ball flying around, the wings obscure te view, makes it super difficult for the pilot to get in etc :)

basically

star wars ships are 1100% designed with practicality thrown out the window for cinematic and thematic appeal

granted, said appeals are entirely subjective

for example, the new shuttle can look like some bizarre, massive alien man-o-war type creature that's painted black for extra menace

or it can look like someone dropped a potent mutagen on a door-stop

The Lanbda shuttle is awesome.

This delta-class t-3c doesn't fit imperial design.

I uh.

I don't get that thing's massive wingspan. Makes sense for the one Kylo has but uh... This thing?

Man I haven't the faintest what's going on here.

Kylo's shuttle explained away the huge wings by having exentensive electronic equipment (sensors, jammers, shield generators, etc) inside them. Which resulted in its wings being proportianately fairly thick to have room for all that gear.

These wings are even bigger than on Kylo's ride, and also seem at first glance to be thinner. Not to mention that the way those giant wings would have to swing around about 120 degrees for landing is a lot more awkward than on the Upsilon, which even in its most widely extended configuration still has them pointing upward. Especially if you need to land in emergency situations.

Umm... you realize the reasons these two ships could look similar is because the Rogue One ship could be literally based off of it (in universe) or vice versa. Also, I think it looks pretty cool.

Lots of shouts of "X-Wing" in the filming footage of the sizzler trailer.

And this...

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Yeah, this would totally be my face too if I got to sit in an X-wing in full gear.

Lots of shouts of "X-Wing" in the filming footage of the sizzler trailer.

And this...

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Looking at just this shot, the uniform and equipment look a lot tackier than in ANH. Which I would totally be behind if it was set at the start of the rebellion, before there was proper equipment or anything. But so close to the battle of Yavin, it's weird it doesn't match up.

I am going to assume it's a small rebel cell brought in to help get the plans off planet because it's all they had available.

Lucasfilm's attempts to reinvent the Lambda just keep getting stupider and less practical...

Lucasfilm's attempts to reinvent the Lambda just keep getting stupider and less practical...

Jesus, you guys really don't like anything new.

And I don't like this thing! But it's the same tired crusty rhetoric EVERY time..!