What ships to use Vectored Thrusters on?

By FluxCapcitr, in X-Wing

Dodge that arc, dodge those torps. Simple as that.

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

What is the obsession with only using repositioning with high PS ships? Do you know what is satisfying blocking a high PS ship. Adding a barrel roll makes that way easier for or a bunch of ships. Giving generic x-wings the option for a crucial block mat be worth a whole lot more then integrated astromech.

There are massive benefits for having repositioning on lower PS ships... I am actually shocked at the amount of people who don't understand this. Do you know what kills soontir/Vader really easily? Blocking them, getting barrel roll on lower PS x-wings allows them to do this easier.

Except you're giving up Integrated Astromech, which puts your efficiency right back in the toilet, and blocking should never be an X-wing's primary purpose since A-wings are better at it.

That being said, I am curious if going from a 15 point naked Prototype Pilot to a 17 point Prototype Pilot with vectored thrusters is worthwhile.

2 points is a lot to ask for. Even in the case where thrusters just aren't that good (i.e, most T-70s), the cheaper Integrated is the no brainer choice

You're right, of course. Those with no brains (or no capacity to use them) would indeed plump for Integrated Astromech (and an Astromech to go along with it, and the cost that entails) every time.

Edited by FTS Gecko

What is the obsession with only using repositioning with high PS ships? Do you know what is satisfying blocking a high PS ship. Adding a barrel roll makes that way easier for or a bunch of ships. Giving generic x-wings the option for a crucial block mat be worth a whole lot more then integrated astromech.

There are massive benefits for having repositioning on lower PS ships... I am actually shocked at the amount of people who don't understand this. Do you know what kills soontir/Vader really easily? Blocking them, getting barrel roll on lower PS x-wings allows them to do this easier.

Both the t70 and A have boost for awesome blocking

You don't really need to throw 2 points of broll on top of that

It's added flexibility, sure, but obviously not flexibility that seems to have been worth running a siener test pilot or alpha squadron for

Seems excessive

Oh I dunno, barrell rolling in an X-Wing might be fun. A-Wing pilots might also enjoy VTs...

In other news, scyks committed mass suicide as the Z took their only reason for living

In other news, scyks committed mass suicide as the Z took their only reason for living

I didn't realise Z95's could take Mangler Cannons now...

In other news, scyks committed mass suicide as the Z took their only reason for living

I didn't realise Z95's could take Mangler Cannons now...

sure can!

granted, they're one use only, but they never live long enough for anyone to realize anyway

As a primarily Scum pilot, I see a lot of potential for this, although on specific targets.

All unique HWK pilots (yes, even Dace) will love VT to death. Frees up space for Glitterstim/Feedback Array, takes up a hardly ever used space on HWKs and make its repositioning choice NOT an RNG. One hell of a win-win for me.

Palob will apreciate it the most, I believe, as he hardly ever needs his standard actions depending on his setup. I mean...Palob...repositioning...yumm...

Kavil, as mentioned, will also give it some love. Soaking up 2 pts from Engine Upgrade to give him a closing option sounds good.

Kaa'to, also, will find it very attractive. He's already the cheapest Mindlink solution available to Scum. With BR, his utility opens up greatly. I don't imagine generic Zs running it, though. But who knows...

Finally, all Kihraxzes. BR and Glitterstim on a K should be good.

Vector thrusters, or how to increase even more the advantage of high PS...

Not a good thing for the game, imo.

Face it. A game about dogfighting should be about aces and them slaughtering generics or duelling with other aces. Does not mean that generics should not be able to win matches, but hey, we still have jumpmasters and recently seen even M3-A Scyk Interceptors.

Ello Asty likes Vectored Thrusters. He likes them a lot.

Frankly, so does Jan Ors. Kyle just hisses at them as he holds his dragon-pile of focus tokens.

You my friend get a gold star for funniest comment in thread ;)

Ello Asty likes Vectored Thrusters. He likes them a lot.

Frankly, so does Jan Ors. Kyle just hisses at them as he holds his dragon-pile of focus tokens.

You my friend get a gold star for funniest comment in thread ;)

I was about to suggest a work around for Kyle involving vectors PTL and...kyle

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goddamnit FFG!

Edited by ficklegreendice

I'm thinking there's a range of options for T-70s - the VA plus their inbuilt boost gives it a little more maneuverability. It has a better dial than the old T-65. Still you loose the IA option at 0 points.

PS9 Poe will like, as well Ello. White Talon Roll and Barrel role for tasty positioning (he needs VI).

Oh, and a barrel rolling K-Wing. LOL. But bombs on the sucker.

Edited by Imperial Mike

So. Predator glitter stim vector for talonbane ? I could see it working.

May have missed someone answering this earlier but, why would Wedge take this when he can take BB-8 and IA for the same points cost?

If you were running PtL, then you get your three actions and no stress this way.

Am I missing something?

How about showing what vectored thrusters are so those of us who don't live on the forms know what you are talking about.

May have missed someone answering this earlier but, why would Wedge take this when he can take BB-8 and IA for the same points cost?

If you were running PtL, then you get your three actions and no stress this way.

Am I missing something?

Only the ability to reposition AFTER you move rather than before...

May have missed someone answering this earlier but, why would Wedge take this when he can take BB-8 and IA for the same points cost?

If you were running PtL, then you get your three actions and no stress this way.

Am I missing something?

You also only have 4 maneuver options this way to BR. PTL thrusters allows you to BR after anything but a 4 k. But ya, probably not phenomenal anyways.

I'm thinking there's a range of options for T-70s - the VA plus their inbuilt boost gives it a little more maneuverability. It has a better dial than the old T-65. Still you loose the IA option at 0 points...

Citation needed - Integrated Astronech might cost 0 points, but you need to pock up an Astronech at a points cost to get any benefit from it.

I dunno I'd still go AT on t-70, 2 agility lets alot of damage through and there's never a shortage of turrets.

Ello Asty likes Vectored Thrusters. He likes them a lot.

Frankly, so does Jan Ors. Kyle just hisses at them as he holds his dragon-pile of focus tokens.

You my friend get a gold star for funniest comment in thread ;)

I feel bad for Kyle. He was **** near overpowered when he came out, in the right hands. Now..?

Theeeerer ain't a whole lotta use for the guy. Not with how expensive he is. In a really big Epic game he'd be AMAZING AS HELL But as he stands in the 100 point format that I still maintain is simply not enough for what we have and want to use he's just... not useful.

But I COMPLETELY stand by my assertion that at PS-friggin- 7 , Ello Asty is a powerhouse waiting to be unleashed, and Vectored Thrusters is a key to making him a holy friggin terror. Hell with IA, VI and R2 he might be a really survivable repositioner-ace.

Seriously the guy is abusively underused.

Gotta say, while it's useless to me as a player (I fly Imperial), Vectored Thruster's artwork is pretty freakin' awesome in my opinion. I feel like we're not often treated to card art of ships in atmo.

Gotta say, while it's useless to me as a player (I fly Imperial), Vectored Thruster's artwork is pretty freakin' awesome in my opinion. I feel like we're not often treated to card art of ships in atmo.

Takes place in atmo AND showcases the galaxy's sturdiest stalagtite

Edited by ficklegreendice

If Stresshogs come back into the Meta, allowing some re-positioning in the early rounds could line up a perfect shot on an Ace. This would work really well on a Stresshog Horton. Everyone will say he is too expensive, but if there are juicier targets to shoot at, his ability makes TLTs almost guaranteed damage.

Wedge is already loving BB-8, so yes, You can now Choose between BB-8 or Vectored thrusters to give Wedge a barrel roll (or both, I'm not here to say no, Barrel rolls galore! Wedge+BB-8+Vectored Thursters).

However wedge looses IA, which I have found to be very helpful at times.

At any rate, Wedge and Talon Bane (KOBRAAAAAAAAA KAI!) should see some more play now.