I still find Shara Bey to be an odd choice for an ARC-170 pilot when she should obviously be arc-dodging in an A-wing.
Double sided
ARC-170 preview article is up
I still find Shara Bey to be an odd choice for an ARC-170 pilot when she should obviously be arc-dodging in an A-wing.
Double sided
Not going to happen.
Vectored trusters only 2 points? Now this is a gift for Kirghaz, it might even make Cobra playable
You know what these less-points-efficient X-Wings need to make them playable? The ability to pay 2 more points to get access to a modestly useful re-positioning action.
Regarding Thane, I don't think you guys have picked up on the fact that Thane's ability triggers in primary firing arc AND auxiliary. His ability can be used to trigger Expose as well, get a TL for missiles... loads of possibilities.
Regarding Thane, I don't think you guys have picked up on the fact that Thane's ability triggers in primary firing arc AND auxiliary. His ability can be used to trigger Expose as well, get a TL for missiles... loads of possibilities.
This is beautiful. Crew and Astromech together, Vectored Thrusters, Tail Gunner, and some new pilot abilities! I'll be nabbing two of these whenever they release!
only two?
Tempted to try Thane with R7-T1 and an Advanced Proton Torpedo alongside R4-D6 Biggs, just for the hell of it. No idea what to do with the last 39 points though. Miranda maybe?
I still find Shara Bey to be an odd choice for an ARC-170 pilot when she should obviously be arc-dodging in an A-wing.
Double sided
Not going to happen.
Double sided would be so awesome
I'm buying it for the model. Who cares about the combos?
I'm buying it for the model. Who cares about the combos?
you do, if you want to play with that sexy ship
fortunately, it's got enough going for it that there's at least enough to field some decent variety even after you've chucked r3 into the waiting fire where it belongs
Edited by ficklegreendice
I guess you can't add a result before you roll your dice the first time? Is that for sure or maybe some wiggle room?
So with the new FAQ in mind, does Norra's ability trigger when she fires a torpedo? At the time you pay the torpedo cost there is not yet a defender, but you are definitely "attacking" so I say yes. That would make her extra baller if she ever ends up on a 2 torp Y-Wing... Firing Advanced proton torpedoes twice, using Shara's TL or Esegee's Focus (or both?).
Nora's ability is used in the Modify Dice step. So no.
If it is the case, what about when you spend your TL to re-roll as normal, does that trigger Norra or does she have to spend a separate TL specifically for her ability? It makes a big difference in how awesome her ability is.
You can spend it to reroll dice OR add the result. To convert it to a hit, she'll need an extra focus token OR be performing an attack in her back arc, via the title.
can't wait to see the dial!
but i don't like the usual agility1 nine hits, expensive, suboptimal pilot abilities, no ept, no generics. uff, compare it with jumpmaster..... seems like rebels have to wait a bit more for some competitivity.
r3 is just.... ugh
bad design. missed opportunity. salvaged are far better!
maybe is just marketing choice: if rebels are strong, other factions' sales could struggle. Rebels sell models anyway maybe
my 2 cents
Edited by alien earthwoah guys, I wouldn't go on about "suboptimal pilot abilities"
there's one "suboptimal" (re: absolutely wretched) pilot ability in Esege 2.0, and the rest are pretty good! (well, the PS 3's is only good 50% of the time, but you're not paying anything for it because he's the cheapest)
Thane and Norra are probably going to be the only ones that get any use.
Shara's ability is just dumb. Very niche use for it, but it puts a ship that ISNT a support vessel in a supporty role and i HATE it when FFG does that.
Braylen would be good if he had an EPT. Put rage on him, he can potentially clear both stress. Or put Daredevil on him, he can potentially clear it free of greens and get some nice arcs with ease. Sadly no.
Unless the ship doesnt have an EPT at all it really f'ing bugs me that some pilots dont have it. Generics, ok fine, why are the NAMED PILOTS not having it.
Vectored trusters only 2 points? Now this is a gift for Kirghaz, it might even make Cobra playable
You know what these less-points-efficient X-Wings need to make them playable? The ability to pay 2 more points to get access to a modestly useful re-positioning action.
It is becoming more and more clear to me - the long awaited X-wing fix will be the ability to take more than just one modification. Probably with a discount of a point or two. Take a look at this, we've already got integrated astromech, which clearly was an early attempt to fix T-65, but it seems like it failed. Yes, it's better than nothing, but still it is not enough. Now, we see great mods, which would help T-65 become, as someone call it, viable (let alone guest starring of Biggs or Wes sometimes in some lists).
If you could take integrated astro, vertical thrusters and e.g. guidance chips or engine upgrade, I think that T-65 would have what it needs.
I know that there are a lot of "fix T-65" topics, so excuse me for spamming it here
Thane and Norra are probably going to be the only ones that get any use.
Shara's ability is just dumb. Very niche use for it, but it puts a ship that ISNT a support vessel in a supporty role and i HATE it when FFG does that.
Braylen would be good if he had an EPT. Put rage on him, he can potentially clear both stress. Or put Daredevil on him, he can potentially clear it free of greens and get some nice arcs with ease. Sadly no.
Unless the ship doesnt have an EPT at all it really f'ing bugs me that some pilots dont have it. Generics, ok fine, why are the NAMED PILOTS not having it.
Idk
As much as I like Thane, Braylens the only ARC you can put a double tap r3-a2 on without shutting down his pilot ability
Thanes free actions go to hell; norra combo is impossible to set up self sufficiently and sharas can't get her locks due to k4 being scum only
So we got Braylen with gunner +r3a2, a stresshog with TWO arcs that may actually get actions after double stressing himself (what sorcery is this!?) Due to green move + sometimes ability
Norra can use single tap r3-a2 with KK to fuel her ability, but the double stress build makes little sense because of her action dependent ability
Edited by ficklegreendice
The ARC dial hasn't been spoiled, but I think we can make some pretty good predictions based on what was said in the original article.
It flies well at slower speeds, but struggles at higher speeds, featuring six green maneuvers at speeds "1" and "2," even while four of its seven higher-speed maneuvers are red.
Which makes me think something like this is probably quite likely.
If so, Targeting Astromech seems like it'll be a solid choice.
Having flown Ks, I'd actually be very happy with a Y dial + green 1-2 banks
Sure it has no turret, but it's still two arcs with either bb8 or VTs helping out
It'd be a very workable dial imo
Generics, ok fine, why are the NAMED PILOTS not having it.
It can be a bit odd when we have a high PS pilot without it, and a lower PS generic with it - Kir Kanos vs Saber Squadron Pilot, for example.
PS might represent raw talent with the elite skill representing experience - Kanos having awesome reflexes but flying his ship very little.
Hmm, no generics at all for the ARC-170, that is interesting, that doesn't happen very often
Right....meant to show how rare they are after the Clone Wars.
Thane's ability in an X-Wing (where he'd presumably come in at less than 26 points) would be pretty great, for the same reasons that his ability in an ARC-170 is already great. The ARC is basically an X-Wing with a Crew slot and a rear arc as it is.
Thane's ability wouldn't be that great in an X-wing as they only have 2 actions. At least in the ARC-170, he has the crew as well as the astromech slot to get bonus actions.
kinda cant count the ships that dont have EPT at all. None of the ghosts, kwings, punishers(cough), lambdas, or rebel ywings have one.
Speaking of rebel ywings anyone notice scum dont have a SINGLE SHIP that lacks an ept in the current meta? As in lacks it period, obviously some of them dont unless its a certain pilot
All the Torpedo type ships don't have EPTs. That's Tie Punisher, Y-wing, and K-wing. Scum don't have any real bomber types.
Okay, expanding the Red Vet R3 idea into a list I've messed around with previously:
Red Vet, Juke, Comm Relay, R3, Integrated Astromech = 33 points x2 = 66 points
34 points left for a crew carrier with Jan Ors. Jan loads up Comm Relay on the Reds. R3 helps reload it throughout the game and is fodder for Integrated Astromech.
Right. Something like Esegee with Recon Specialist.
Shara Bey and Weapons Engineer (and maybe R5-K6) with a bunch of cheap ordnance carriers, like Z-95's. How about a cheap Tala Squadron w/ Concussion Missiles and Guidance Chips?
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All the Torpedo type ships don't have EPTs. That's Tie Punisher, Y-wing, and K-wing. Scum don't have any real bomber types.
They have a Y-Wing - but theirs does have an EPT pilot - Kavil.
TIE Bombers have an EPT, always have (Vets just gave us a generic with it but we always had it).
And if having 4+ ordnance slots makes you a real bomber type then the Uboat is **** proof that more than 2 is utterly pointless.
In hindsight I bet they wish they had made EPT a 2-tier upgrade. Like give every named pilot the ability to equip 1 or 2 point EPTs and then the ones that currently have it can equip any EPT. Like if we traveled back in time, ships would either have no icon, a white icon, or a gold icon. And then the EPT cards would either be white or gold. So pilots with the white icon can only equip white EPTs while pilots with gold icons can equip either.
I still find Shara Bey to be an odd choice for an ARC-170 pilot when she should obviously be arc-dodging in an A-wing.
Double sided
Not going to happen.
But would be awesome if it did.
Wow. No generic pilots?