Flattened by the Party Bus

By Hawkstrike, in X-Wing

I'm impressed by the efficiency with which Bossk's Party Bus (Bossk with Crack Shot, Dengar, 4-LOM, Zuckuss, Concussion Missiles, Guidance Chips) can murder aces.

And there we were ... opening engagement, Party Bus shooting at Countess Ryad (PTL, TIE MkII, TIE/X7) at range 3 through a rock. Bossk has a Target lock; the Countess has a Focus and Evade. Bossk rolls: Hit, Hit, Blank, Blank. Dengar re-rolls both Blanks; Hit, Hit, Hit, Crit. Guidance Chips to Hit, Hit, Crit, Crit. 4-LOM then squishes Ryad's Evade token.

I roll Ryad's four greens ... two Evades + Focus + Blank. Zuckuss forces a re-roll of the Evades and Focus ... Blank, Blank, Focus. Spend Focus for one Evade. Crack Shot takes away the Evade.

Bossk converts a Crit ... so Hit, Hit, Hit, Hit, Crit go through ... three shields gone, one hull gone, and the Crit is ... (you guessed it!) Direct Hit . Ryad pops like a soap bubble, never getting a chance to fire.

Sigh.

Yep, I love it. I prefer Mangler Cannon over Concussion due to the consistent crits that can be generated, though.

IMO Bossk party bus is a bit too expensive, which currently makes it somewhat difficult to fill the rest of the list with wingmen of the same caliber.

I've recently began to experiment with a Trandoshan Slaver with Dengar, Zuckuss and 4LOM. It works great and it's cheap enough to fit 2 U-boats next to it.

Stay out of the Party Bus arc and you won't have that problem!

:)

"The Venga Bus Party Bus is coming!"

I wouldn't consider countess ryad an ace.

IMO Bossk party bus is a bit too expensive, which currently makes it somewhat difficult to fill the rest of the list with wingmen of the same caliber.

I've recently began to experiment with a Trandoshan Slaver with Dengar, Zuckuss and 4LOM. It works great and it's cheap enough to fit 2 U-boats next to it.

Tel/Bossk is my current list.

To be fair, that's a really expensive version of the Party Bus...

To be fair, that's a really expensive version of the Party Bus...

It was part of a two ship list with a loaded Boba. You might as well load up on upgrades instead of trying to squeeze a worthless 3rd ship in.

Scum has some of the best crew cards in the game and they're all inexpensive. That concussion missile is always going to be 4 hits, at least one of which is a crit because of chips with a 3 attack primary.

Even if a ship is expensive, there is value in being able to just one shot an entire Defender. I don't care if my ship costs 50-60 points if it can just delete a 36 point ship in one shot somewhat easily.

I sure was glad I didn't have to face his list, haha.

I'm impressed by the efficiency with which Bossk's Party Bus (Bossk with Crack Shot, Dengar, 4-LOM, Zuckuss, Concussion Missiles, Guidance Chips) can murder aces.

And there we were ... opening engagement, Party Bus shooting at Countess Ryad (PTL, TIE MkII, TIE/X7) at range 3 through a rock. Bossk has a Target lock; the Countess has a Focus and Evade. Bossk rolls: Hit, Hit, Blank, Blank. Dengar re-rolls both Blanks; Hit, Hit, Hit, Crit. Guidance Chips to Hit, Hit, Crit, Crit. 4-LOM then squishes Ryad's Evade token.

I roll Ryad's four greens ... two Evades + Focus + Blank. Zuckuss forces a re-roll of the Evades and Focus ... Blank, Blank, Focus. Spend Focus for one Evade. Crack Shot takes away the Evade.

Bossk converts a Crit ... so Hit, Hit, Hit, Hit, Crit go through ... three shields gone, one hull gone, and the Crit is ... (you guessed it!) Direct Hit . Ryad pops like a soap bubble, never getting a chance to fire.

Sigh.

That's some mighty fine rolling luck for Bossk and some bad rolling luck for you. I feel your pain. Like others, I prefer to use the Mangler simply because I can't count on rolling a crit. *

Also of note, after that attack, the party bus now has an Ion token (just one, so no effect on large, but still), 3 stress tokens (no more actions for the rest of its life), no crack shot, and no missiles.

It still can hit reasonably hard after that thanks to the crew, but the five point, three slot, one-trick-pony has done its job, and any "real" aces will tear it up quickly.

* - Had I been rolling for Bossk against you, the scenario would likely have played out like this.

Bossk rolls: Hit, Focus, Blank, Blank.

Concussion converts Blank to Hit: Hit, Hit, Focus, Blank.

Dengar re-rolls Focus, Blank; Hit, Hit, Blank, Blank.

Guidance Chips to Hit, Hit, Crit, Blank.

4-LOM then squishes Ryad's Evade token.

You roll Ryad's four greens ... two Evades + Focus + Blank.

Zuckuss forces a re-roll of the Evades and Focus ... Evade, Evade, Evade, Blank.

No need to spend Focus.

Crack Shot takes away one Evade.

Bossk converts a Crit ... so Hit, Hit goes through ... two shield gone.

Ryad is free to move out of Bossk's arc, and shoot him from behind until he pops.

EDIT: for accuracy inside spoiler

Edited by Lifer4700

You forgot the Concussion Missile blank to hit, no wonder you've got such bad luck...

I'm impressed by the efficiency with which Bossk's Party Bus (Bossk with Crack Shot, Dengar, 4-LOM, Zuckuss, Concussion Missiles, Guidance Chips) can murder aces. And there we were ... opening engagement, Party Bus shooting at Countess Ryad (PTL, TIE MkII, TIE/X7) at range 3 through a rock. Bossk has a Target lock; the Countess has a Focus and Evade. Bossk rolls: Hit, Hit, Blank, Blank. Dengar re-rolls both Blanks; Hit, Hit, Hit, Crit. Guidance Chips to Hit, Hit, Crit, Crit. 4-LOM then squishes Ryad's Evade token. I roll Ryad's four greens ... two Evades + Focus + Blank. Zuckuss forces a re-roll of the Evades and Focus ... Blank, Blank, Focus. Spend Focus for one Evade. Crack Shot takes away the Evade. Bossk converts a Crit ... so Hit, Hit, Hit, Hit, Crit go through ... three shields gone, one hull gone, and the Crit is ... (you guessed it!) Direct Hit . Ryad pops like a soap bubble, never getting a chance to fire. Sigh.

That's some mighty fine rolling luck for Bossk and some bad rolling luck for you. I feel your pain. Like others, I prefer to use the Mangler simply because I can't count on rolling a crit. * Also of note, after that attack, the party bus now has an Ion token (just one, so no effect on large, but still), 3 stress tokens, no crack shot, and no missiles. It still can hit reasonably hard after that thanks to the crew, but the five point, three slot, one-trick-pony has done its job, and any "real" aces will tear it up quickly. * - Had I been rolling for Bossk against you, the scenario would likely have played out like this.

Bossk rolls: Hit, Focus, Blank, Blank.Dengar re-rolls both Blanks; Hit, Focus, Blank, Blank.Guidance Chips to Hit, Crit, Blank, Blank.4-LOM then squishes Ryad's Evade token. You roll Ryad's four greens ... two Evades + Focus + Blank.Zuckuss forces a re-roll of the Evades and Focus ... Evade, Evade, Evade, Blank.No need to spend Focus.Crack Shot takes away one Evade. Bossk converts a Crit ... so Hit, Hit, Hit go through ... three shields gone.Ryad is free to move out of Bossk's arc, and shoot him from behind until he pops.

I'm impressed by the efficiency with which Bossk's Party Bus (Bossk with Crack Shot, Dengar, 4-LOM, Zuckuss, Concussion Missiles, Guidance Chips) can murder aces. And there we were ... opening engagement, Party Bus shooting at Countess Ryad (PTL, TIE MkII, TIE/X7) at range 3 through a rock. Bossk has a Target lock; the Countess has a Focus and Evade. Bossk rolls: Hit, Hit, Blank, Blank. Dengar re-rolls both Blanks; Hit, Hit, Hit, Crit. Guidance Chips to Hit, Hit, Crit, Crit. 4-LOM then squishes Ryad's Evade token. I roll Ryad's four greens ... two Evades + Focus + Blank. Zuckuss forces a re-roll of the Evades and Focus ... Blank, Blank, Focus. Spend Focus for one Evade. Crack Shot takes away the Evade. Bossk converts a Crit ... so Hit, Hit, Hit, Hit, Crit go through ... three shields gone, one hull gone, and the Crit is ... (you guessed it!) Direct Hit . Ryad pops like a soap bubble, never getting a chance to fire. Sigh.

That's some mighty fine rolling luck for Bossk and some bad rolling luck for you. I feel your pain. Like others, I prefer to use the Mangler simply because I can't count on rolling a crit. * Also of note, after that attack, the party bus now has an Ion token (just one, so no effect on large, but still), 3 stress tokens, no crack shot, and no missiles. It still can hit reasonably hard after that thanks to the crew, but the five point, three slot, one-trick-pony has done its job, and any "real" aces will tear it up quickly. * - Had I been rolling for Bossk against you, the scenario would likely have played out like this.

Bossk rolls: Hit, Focus, Blank, Blank.Dengar re-rolls both Blanks; Hit, Focus, Blank, Blank.Guidance Chips to Hit, Crit, Blank, Blank.4-LOM then squishes Ryad's Evade token. You roll Ryad's four greens ... two Evades + Focus + Blank.Zuckuss forces a re-roll of the Evades and Focus ... Evade, Evade, Evade, Blank.No need to spend Focus.Crack Shot takes away one Evade. Bossk converts a Crit ... so Hit, Hit, Hit go through ... three shields gone.Ryad is free to move out of Bossk's arc, and shoot him from behind until he pops.

That's actually not an all that unlikely roll from Bossk and pretty common defense result facing Zuckuss. Drawing the direct hit was unfortunate, and only a defender really has a decent chance of surviving that barrage at all but it's going to be crippled regardless.

You forgot the Concussion Missile blank to hit, no wonder you've got such bad luck...

Thank you for catching that! I've updated the post.

I don't use concussion missiles often.

To be fair, that's a really expensive version of the Party Bus...

It was part of a two ship list with a loaded Boba. You might as well load up on upgrades instead of trying to squeeze a worthless 3rd ship in.

Scum has some of the best crew cards in the game and they're all inexpensive. That concussion missile is always going to be 4 hits, at least one of which is a crit because of chips with a 3 attack primary.

Even if a ship is expensive, there is value in being able to just one shot an entire Defender. I don't care if my ship costs 50-60 points if it can just delete a 36 point ship in one shot somewhat easily.

I sure was glad I didn't have to face his list, haha.

In a two-ship-build it's hard to put chips+missile over the good-old-EU

The intial attack vector is crucial with a party bus. After a round or three of firing it will never get rid of its accumulated Zuckuss stress. So no 0 full stop and no red hard turn leaving only banks to turn around. If the enemy aces get behind you then the ship is going down. You have to use a corner of the board to cover one of your flanks so if the enemy tries to stay on that flank you can catch them in the auxiliary arc once you get through the 2 or 3 banks it takes to turn around.

If I play party buss Bossk I run VI and homing missile. Homing doubles down on 4LOM.

Cool story! Bossk is awesome!

The intial attack vector is crucial with a party bus. After a round or three of firing it will never get rid of its accumulated Zuckuss stress. So no 0 full stop and no red hard turn leaving only banks to turn around. If the enemy aces get behind you then the ship is going down. You have to use a corner of the board to cover one of your flanks so if the enemy tries to stay on that flank you can catch them in the auxiliary arc once you get through the 2 or 3 banks it takes to turn around.

Hard 3 is white, only hard 2 and Stop are red.

Hard 3 is not very useful with Soontir or Jake on your tail. It just allows them to slip around your outside flank and keep clear of your arc.

Inertial dampeners is really solid on the bus.

I wouldn't consider countess ryad an ace.

In this scenario, he had 3 green dice, a focus & evade token. Seems pretty ace equivalent to me.

Why not homing? Guess it makes Dengar redundant (and you kinda need him post missile to be any good)

I wouldn't consider countess ryad an ace.

In this scenario, he had 3 green dice, a focus & evade token. Seems pretty ace equivalent to me.

Part of being an Acewing are the dice mods and action efficiency. It's not just having boost and barrel roll.

Also, white/green K-Turns are the Defender's boost and barrel roll.

Those asking for Mangler are mistaken. You want that extra die from the missiles and guidance chips give you the crit for Bossk's ability.

Those who think engine upgrade on a ship with Zuckuss is better than chips aren't thinking.

Rather ryand has an ace's action efficiency; NOT the pilot skill nor arcdodging ability (nor thrusters)

The defender is and has always been an Uber jouster, now it's just an actually good one. Veterans didn't magically turn it into an interceptor even if they have the same sexy royal guard paint scheme

Edited by ficklegreendice

Those who think PartyBus is supposed to be ordnance-based already did something wrong because it's no Uboat, and you DO require the TL on high-PS targer. what means R3

and R3 means they'll most likely get into R1 and won't bother.

Well that is the problem with bossk in general: requiring crits

Ordnance and mangler seem like good guarantees but they limit the arc as they're secondary weapons and you are not moralo

Wonder if the party bus wouldn't be more efficient on just a slaver or moralo running g with primaries or HLC. Really your biggest loss is the pun of "party bossk" and ept slot

But between 4lom and zuckuss, the crackshot might be slight overkill anyway

Edited by ficklegreendice

Well that is the problem with bossk in general: requiring crits

Ordnance and mangler seem like good guarantees but they limit the arc as they're secondary weapons and you are not moralo

Wonder if the party bus wouldn't be more efficient on just a slaver or moralo running g with primaries or HLC. Really your biggest loss is the pun of "party bossk" and ept slot

But between 4lom and zuckuss, the crackshot might be slight overkill anyway

Why bother with his ability anyway?

His trait is EPT, one which others lack.

Ability is simply a tasty addition.

VI and he's not as predictable

and can be BRO4LIFE with Dengar.

Crackshot and he's now a monster of acemurder

Predator and he can be effective even without Dengar crew (K4 is nice but not that much)