It's page 7 of this thread, if someone hasn't mentioned the developers saying that they won't be bringing prequel ships to X wing, then I don't know what's going on.

If they have, then why is this still going on?

A few waves ago, in an interwiev for some podcast, one of the devs said they might include prequel ships further down the line.

I love the mental gymnastics when it comes to ARC

It's page 7 of this thread, if someone hasn't mentioned the developers saying that they won't be bringing prequel ships to X wing, then I don't know what's going on.

I think what's going on is all the people that believed your argument went on record saying in the ARC-170 thread "if FFG release the ARC-170 I'm leaving" and so have all left the game and the forum.

Anything that has good design, and give me more ship and list building options, i am all for, however, i really dont want to see any more factions. Just unique ways to incorporate certain ships/pilots into the existing factions. 3 is enough IMO.

Im not a huge fan of the movies, although i dont detest them simply because its the common stance for purists. "those prequels were so bad, i only saw them a dozen times in the theater, and only bought the special edition DVD boxed set when it was released"

I would love to see quite a few prequel era ships and pilots find their way into the game.

I dont understand the stance of not wanting them included due to timeline issues. Those already exist. If you have a personal issue with lists that are not thematically accurate, then build a list that is. Personally i love to see diversity from the lists i fly against. The more diverse the better, And i have no problem flying a thematic list when i want to, or using a delorean to put together a list that defies time.

Fly what you want to fly, when you want to fly it.

Anything that has good design, and give me more ship and list building options, i am all for, however, i really dont want to see any more factions. Just unique ways to incorporate certain ships/pilots into the existing factions. 3 is enough IMO.

Im not a huge fan of the movies, although i dont detest them simply because its the common stance for purists. "those prequels were so bad, i only saw them a dozen times in the theater, and only bought the special edition DVD boxed set when it was released"

I would love to see quite a few prequel era ships and pilots find their way into the game.

I dont understand the stance of not wanting them included due to timeline issues. Those already exist. If you have a personal issue with lists that are not thematically accurate, then build a list that is. Personally i love to see diversity from the lists i fly against. The more diverse the better, And i have no problem flying a thematic list when i want to, or using a delorean to put together a list that defies time.

Fly what you want to fly, when you want to fly it.

This!

This is the attitude players should have towards the game (towards any game)

Play the faction and the ships YOU want but don't ****** complain when other people start jocking for ships that they like. Its not going to hurt the game. Its not going to break anything. If you don't like the ships, don't buy them. Other people will and guess what, its not going to affect you in annnny way whatsoever.

Hell, I'd like to see the V-Wing from the N64 Rogue Squadron added to the game, the N1 Naboo Starfighter, General Grevious' Souless One, Sith Infiltrator, Starkiller's Rogue Shadow, the P38 Starfighter, hell, bring on ships from before the prequels movies. More the better.

People writing "No" as their entire reply to the thread should get banned from using the internet. You have a language to use it in constructive way for a reason.

As Jedi SFighter goes, the general hate towards the prequels makes it undoable, but if Rebels were to put one in season three then why not

As Jedi SFighter goes, the general hate towards the prequels makes it undoable

Of course, after the ARC-170 the ships I *really* want to see from the prequels are Padme's shuttles/yachts - all three were gorgeous. I don't know what role they'd have though, if I recall correctly the first two weren't even armed.

I'd be open to 2 new faction expansion to include some of the clone wars stuff. they had pretty cool vehicles.

if you take out the cruddy dialog and gungan stupidity you have a decent story and series of movies.

Of course, after the ARC-170 the ships I *really* want to see from the prequels are Padme's shuttles/yachts - all three were gorgeous. I don't know what role they'd have though, if I recall correctly the first two weren't even armed.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Vader's_J-type_327_Nubian

Edit Fixed rebelous link

much as im against new factions it probably makes more sense to introduce a Republic and Trade Federation instead of giving various ships of those era to the Rebels and Imperials. It also dodges the "scum are left out!" issue, since far as i know the only ships that existed then that would work for scum are outright huge or even more of a piece of junk than an unmodified YT1300 lol

i mean, technically anything flown by Clone Troopers would be Imperials because of Order 66, but then you got thinks like Jedi Starfighter....of the era theyre the same faction but theres no way Imperials get jedi starfighters lol.

Flipside, Trade Federation would be argued if theyre imperial or scum. They seem scummy to me but Palpatine had a major hand in what they were doing and then theres the Death Star plans bit so...imperial? dunno..

Of course, after the ARC-170 the ships I *really* want to see from the prequels are Padme's shuttles/yachts - all three were gorgeous. I don't know what role they'd have though, if I recall correctly the first two weren't even armed.

Episode 3 one is armed, the other two are not, at least in default configurations, but the "standard" Quadjumper is unarmed as well and HWK's only weapon is the turret. TPM Nubian has four "slits" which look like they Gould house cannos, but apparently those are for headlights. According to wookie, Darth Vader had a black painted Nubian armed with missiles.

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Is that some new kind of rickrolling?

No idea what happened there.

much as im against new factions it probably makes more sense to introduce a Republic and Trade Federation instead of giving various ships of those era to the Rebels and Imperials. It also dodges the "scum are left out!" issue, since far as i know the only ships that existed then that would work for scum are outright huge or even more of a piece of junk than an unmodified YT1300 lol

i mean, technically anything flown by Clone Troopers would be Imperials because of Order 66, but then you got thinks like Jedi Starfighter....of the era theyre the same faction but theres no way Imperials get jedi starfighters lol.

Flipside, Trade Federation would be argued if theyre imperial or scum. They seem scummy to me but Palpatine had a major hand in what they were doing and then theres the Death Star plans bit so...imperial? dunno..

Things flown by Clones:

V-19

BTL-B

ARC-170

Z-95

Alpha-3

Things flown by Jedi:

Delta-7

Eta-2

These ships can be fit anywhere within the factions with minimal fuss, except that the Imps currently have no access to astromchs and might not want them. V-wings could be scum easily since they were in Empire at War. Eta-2s were in SWG and might fit with scum as well, and of cours Vader could use one.

Anyway, this will continue to split the fans for a long time to come.

A beautiful ship that I would love to see explored in X-Wing. TCW introduced many young fans to the franchise, just as the prequels did, and it would be a shame if they couldn't pick up ships from their iconic childhood. Beyond that, I love both Jedi Starfighter designs, but I am partial to the Eta-2.

I'm not a big fan of the eta-2 to be honest. Design wise it strikes me as a bit cluttered. I can see what they were trying to do - pull in TIE design features, but the implementation just seems a bit clumsy to me. Almost reminds me of uglies.

The Eta-2 could fit in all three factions, rebels could fly leftovers, scum could fly leftovers, and apparently Vader flew one before he got his TIE Advanced. I think that could be cool.

I'd go for it, as long as it had 4 agility and was crazy maneuverable.

On 8/29/2016 at 9:11 AM, mazz0 said:

The greatest anti-anti-prequel trump card known to this forum.

On 29.8.2016 at 2:15 PM, Schyzo Kitty said:

People writing "No" as their entire reply to the thread should get banned from using the internet. You have a language to use it in constructive way for a reason.

As Jedi SFighter goes, the general hate towards the prequels makes it undoable, but if Rebels were to put one in season three then why not

No, no, no.

The general hate did not stop the ARC either. The general hate is dying anyway, the new hip is to like the prequels for original despite the **** script and lackluster execution. And usually those trends become mainstream, just like it took a while to become mainstream to hate the prequels. Revenge and Attack have even mediocre user and critique ratings, while TPM has the most iconic duel of fates of the whole franchise.

8 hours ago, gryffindorhouse said:

The Eta-2 could fit in all three factions, rebels could fly leftovers, scum could fly leftovers, and apparently Vader flew one before he got his TIE Advanced. I think that could be cool.

I'd go for it, as long as it had 4 agility and was crazy maneuverable.

Was going to suggest the ETA-2, however it has a chance of becoming the protectorate for imperials, a roll that the interceptor Should be filling.

But I agree it's totally doable, should throw it in rebels if anything, just to keep all the clone wars era ships in the same faction so you can still field "thematic" period lists ( arc's/ jedi starfighters/Y-wings together) if you wanted.

Or give the imperials an ARC-170, i'm good with it either way.

I think...

All factions should have the ETA-2. One pilot for each faction, no generics. Nym has shown us it's possible to release a ship for two factions. Why not the ETA-2 be the fist for all factions?

And Scum should exclusively get the V-Wing.

1 hour ago, Captain Lackwit said:

And Scum should exclusively get the V-Wing.

why exactly?

Arc-170 and V-wing for all !

Empire : Remove Astromech Slot and reduce the cost. (Early Day of the New Order)

Scum : Remplace Astromech Slot with Salvaged Astromect

Rebels : Have their own Astromech Slot

But it would be better if we have a Clone Wars Miniatures Games !

5 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:

why exactly?

Cause it doesn't really work for the Empire. Yeah sure, The Empire used V-Wings and ARC-170s, okay that's definitely true. But Rebels already got the ARCS, and only a few people ever got ETA-2s post-clone-wars.

V-Wings in The Empire axed the droid compartment, first off. Second off, in Legends, V-Wings were a rather hot item for pirate factions, as it turns out. See, the reason Scum should get it, is that it would be a high agility, high firepower ship with an astromech slot. Or well, salvaged astromech slot. With a stat-line like 3/3/2/2, a solid dial, and Salvaged Astromechs, you could really make something nasty that's unique to Scum.

Also, here's a fun idea for the Imperial ETA-2. While Imperials have yet to have Astromech enabled ships, with my concept each faction gets one unique pilot. Not sure who Scum would get, but they all share something in common.

So long as it doesn't say "Rebels Only", they could equip any current Astromech. Yes, that means putting friggin R2-D2 or BB-8 on Darth Vader's ETA-2. Thematic? No not entirely. Interesting avenues of approach for gameplay purposes, and augments the way the ETA-2 can be flown in a myriad of ways?

Oh yes. Absolutely.

9 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

V-Wings in The Empire axed the droid compartment, first off. Second off, in Legends, V-Wings were a rather hot item for pirate factions, as it turns out. See, the reason Scum should get it, is that it would be a high agility, high firepower ship with an astromech slot. Or well, salvaged astromech slot. With a stat-line like 3/3/2/2, a solid dial, and Salvaged Astromechs, you could really make something nasty that's unique to Scum.

Why would you want this? Why do you want Scum to have ANOTHER high agility, high attack ship... they don't need another nasty thing... especially since the V-wing was replaced by the TIE/ln which is worse than your proposed statline...

3 hours ago, RufusDaMan said:

Why would you want this? Why do you want Scum to have ANOTHER high agility, high attack ship... they don't need another nasty thing... especially since the V-wing was replaced by the TIE/ln which is worse than your proposed statline...

*siiiiiiiiggggghhhhhh*

I knew somebody would focus entirely on the V-Wing part, screw the cool ETA-2 stuff right? Well let me explain it for you: Just because the TIE Replaced it does not make it better. There are things the F-14 does that the F-18 can't, and we all know the F-35 isn't better than the F-22. So clearly, not all new ships are strictly better. Y'see, the "This replaced X, so X needs worse stats" mindset is mindnumbingly... Vacant. The V-Wing is noted to have some PRETTY powerful guns with a really solid gimbal mechanic, and it's definitely a fast fighter.

IT MAY SHOCK YOU but the Empire has a different doctrine than the Republic. Faster, more expendable fighters. Throw hordes, not high quality. I thought every single starship enthusiast that calls themself a Star Wars fan understood this. I suppose not.

I want this because I like Variety. The Empire does not need this ship either. The Rebellion may like it, but something like this would probably overshadow the A and X-Wing, as it's kind of between those two when you really get right down to it. V-Wings flying alongside TIE/FOs? It just doesn't make any sense. Alongside B-Wings or Fangs? Yeah, absolutely, it looks right and it makes tooooons of sense.