In my newbieness I was worried his place in history would mean they would restrict his character a lot for usage. While I respect and am glad of the time period ideas, I also like the idea of being able to play more with the pieces I buy, so glad he wasnt restricted Looks so good.

Don't get your hopes up. They just photoshopped the time period part out. Its not the first time.

Next week, 14th Jul.

I am disappoint. Oh well, on the plus side the next one is another run of Bespin (*puke*), which is short, so he'll be here for the next week when we start the next campaign.

In my newbieness I was worried his place in history would mean they would restrict his character a lot for usage. While I respect and am glad of the time period ideas, I also like the idea of being able to play more with the pieces I buy, so glad he wasnt restricted Looks so good.

Don't get your hopes up. They just photoshopped the time period part out. Its not the first time.

Next week, 14th Jul.

I am disappoint. Oh well, on the plus side the next one is another run of Bespin (*puke*), which is short, so he'll be here for the next week when we start the next campaign.

Sounds like his side mission takes place on Tattooine. Trying to insert it into the Bespin mini-campaign might be a bit too jarring anyway.

In my newbieness I was worried his place in history would mean they would restrict his character a lot for usage. While I respect and am glad of the time period ideas, I also like the idea of being able to play more with the pieces I buy, so glad he wasnt restricted Looks so good.

Don't get your hopes up. They just photoshopped the time period part out. Its not the first time.

Thanks for the heads up, didn't know they'd done that before

You can likely get your hopes up actually. Someone has Greedo in hand and there's a note that his mission has no time period so it can be used in any campaign. It's pretty safe to assume that all three will be that way.

If you really wanted to play with a figure, would you really let the fact that it says "Time period: X" stop you from doing that?

It's not like it's game breaking or anything.

In my newbieness I was worried his place in history would mean they would restrict his character a lot for usage. While I respect and am glad of the time period ideas, I also like the idea of being able to play more with the pieces I buy, so glad he wasnt restricted Looks so good.

Don't get your hopes up. They just photoshopped the time period part out. Its not the first time.

From a skirmish point of view I'm a bit on the fence with this guy.

There's no doubt some of the command cards are great (though I don't really like Obiwan's) and his cost of 7 is pretty amazing for 12 health, solid defense and a great attack. I guess "I must go alone" is good for getting enemies within lightsaber range.

I also like the affect that the Alter Mind and Powerful Influence rules introduce, but it's hard to gauge their in game impact.

However, I'm not too sure what sort of role he's supposed to fill. He really wants/needs to be in the thick of it, but his command card card implies the opposite.

He's another slow melee character so probably needs lots of force user cards.

He makes a great tank I guess, and for 7 points I think he'll see a lot of use, but he just doesn't seem to fit well with a lot of the other rebels.
He's great with Luke obviously because they are both hard to kill, but is he any better than 2 wookies? Or 2 eEBT? He doesn't seem to have much synergy with other Rebels, which is what Rebels are all about.

It will be interesting to see how Alter Mind plays out.

From a skirmish point of view I'm a bit on the fence with this guy.

There's no doubt some of the command cards are great (though I don't really like Obiwan's) and his cost of 7 is pretty amazing for 12 health, solid defense and a great attack. I guess "I must go alone" is good for getting enemies within lightsaber range.

I also like the affect that the Alter Mind and Powerful Influence rules introduce, but it's hard to gauge their in game impact.

However, I'm not too sure what sort of role he's supposed to fill. He really wants/needs to be in the thick of it, but his command card card implies the opposite.

He's another slow melee character so probably needs lots of force user cards.

He makes a great tank I guess, and for 7 points I think he'll see a lot of use, but he just doesn't seem to fit well with a lot of the other rebels.

He's great with Luke obviously because they are both hard to kill, but is he any better than 2 wookies? Or 2 eEBT? He doesn't seem to have much synergy with other Rebels, which is what Rebels are all about.

It will be interesting to see how Alter Mind plays out.

Obi-Wan is going to be used for solely contested points on the map. Esp terminals. You can send him off and he can easily defend against a deployment card with a couple of units. And while contesting, your opponent isnt getting "credit" due to Obi's text. So your opponent has to go the slow route of chipping away at him and they cant do it from afar due to his range text on I Must Go Alone. So they have to over commit resources now to get rid of him, letting you focus on the main objective, or hopefully take him down quickly and then regroup after that.

~D

Absolutely. He brings something new which is a utility piece to hinder the opponent's attempts to win points through objectives. R2 did it a bit too with his command card but this is a much stronger presence.

I don't really like the no time period thing on the mission card. I hope it is just the preview, and the final product will have a restriction. Both him and Greedo (don't really care about the Rebels dude).

So what if they dont have a timeperiod not everyone want to reanact star wars but play their on story.

You can leave them out yourself they wont show up in the campaign only in their sidemissions so np.

So what if they dont have a timeperiod not everyone want to reanact star wars but play their on story.

You can leave them out yourself they wont show up in the campaign only in their sidemissions so np.

The same is true if they had a time period. You could just ignore it. And they can appear on campaign missions since you bring them there... its the whole point of completing their side missions.

Regardless, we'll see if FFG really cares about the Star Wars lore or not. My money is on 'not' by this point.

So what if they dont have a timeperiod not everyone want to reanact star wars but play their on story.

You can leave them out yourself they wont show up in the campaign only in their sidemissions so np.

The same is true if they had a time period. You could just ignore it. And they can appear on campaign missions since you bring them there... its the whole point of completing their side missions.

Regardless, we'll see if FFG really cares about the Star Wars lore or not. My money is on 'not' by this point.

Exactly what I was thinking! How much work could it be for FFG to place time periods on the cards? Actually I know; I've been working on it! I have time periods and modifications to the flavor text to allow them to be used in time periods 1-4. I can post them if anyone's interested.

So what if they dont have a timeperiod not everyone want to reanact star wars but play their on story.

You can leave them out yourself they wont show up in the campaign only in their sidemissions so np.

The same is true if they had a time period. You could just ignore it. And they can appear on campaign missions since you bring them there... its the whole point of completing their side missions.

Regardless, we'll see if FFG really cares about the Star Wars lore or not. My money is on 'not' by this point.

YEAH. FFG absolutely hates star wars lore and will ignore it every opportunity they get! Those dirty money grubbers don't care about us true fans. /s

This is very elegant. Usually, in the campaign, expensive Figures like Chewbacca are worth bringing in if the mission doesn't have a timer or a very generous one. In the example of Chewbacca, 15 Points worth of things won't kill him in one round and the armor Bonus quickly adds up – but since a lot of missions have a rather strict timer, more Imperial figures means more possibilities to block the Rebels. In longer games, the value of expensive figures grows, especially if they have good defense.

Now Obi Wan can move two units without costing an action. That means he offsets the blocking problem, for the same point cost the Imperial can afford f.e. Elite Trandoshan Hunters who are not able to block the path since Obi Wan can move them away from doors. He does hit hard himself and gives surges to other heroes in crucial tests. That still means it might be a bad decision in a specific mission to field an expensive Miniature, but Obi Wan is more of an option than some other heroes.

I like that they give an option beyond "someone to do shooty things". I like having options and it is cool to think that you might one day be seriously considering *which* ally to bring rather than deciding if the cool outweighs the hassle to bring one at all.

It's always tough to justify threat cost in a campaign to bring in allies, most especially just an ally. I can't see justifying handing ten threat over to the Imperial player for Obi Wan. He'd have to fill a real specific role.

With that being said, I bet the side mission to recruit him is going to be sweet.

Wonder why his subtitle is Jedi Knight rather than Jedi Master.

I would guess because in the movie he said- "I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your father."

This is a case of one name being used for the whole of a group, while a smaller group within that is less commonly used.

All the Jedi Masters are Jedi Knights, but not all Jedi Knights are Jedi Masters...

Obi-Wan was both a Jedi Master and a Jedi Knight, but the term Jedi Knight would be the most commonly used and understood by almost anyone...

This is a case of one name being used for the whole of a group, while a smaller group within that is less commonly used.

All the Jedi Masters are Jedi Knights, but not all Jedi Knights are Jedi Masters...

Obi-Wan was both a Jedi Master and a Jedi Knight, but the term Jedi Knight would be the most commonly used and understood by almost anyone...

The same Obi-Wan referred to Yoda as a Jedi Master in Empire Strikes Back. I think it is more likely that GL only used the phrase Jedi Master to show that Yoda was more powerful/higher ranked than Obi-Wan, then determined the concept of the Jedi Council for the prequels.

This is a case of one name being used for the whole of a group, while a smaller group within that is less commonly used.

All the Jedi Masters are Jedi Knights, but not all Jedi Knights are Jedi Masters...

Obi-Wan was both a Jedi Master and a Jedi Knight, but the term Jedi Knight would be the most commonly used and understood by almost anyone...

The same Obi-Wan referred to Yoda as a Jedi Master in Empire Strikes Back. I think it is more likely that GL only used the phrase Jedi Master to show that Yoda was more powerful/higher ranked than Obi-Wan, then determined the concept of the Jedi Council for the prequels.

I agree with this. So much that has been fleshed out by West End Games and some of the novels, after the OT, and later appropriated by Lucas, are now considered something Lucas considered at the time of writing Star Wars, which anyone who knows the history of Star Wars, knows is not true.

This is a case of one name being used for the whole of a group, while a smaller group within that is less commonly used.

All the Jedi Masters are Jedi Knights, but not all Jedi Knights are Jedi Masters...

Obi-Wan was both a Jedi Master and a Jedi Knight, but the term Jedi Knight would be the most commonly used and understood by almost anyone...

The same Obi-Wan referred to Yoda as a Jedi Master in Empire Strikes Back. I think it is more likely that GL only used the phrase Jedi Master to show that Yoda was more powerful/higher ranked than Obi-Wan, then determined the concept of the Jedi Council for the prequels.

Obi-Wan also would've referred to Yoda as a Jedi Master because Yoda had been a Master as long as Obi-Wan could remember. Obi-Wan would perceive Yoda as a Master forever, while referring to himself as a Knight makes much more sense to his internal logic.

But yes, GL's creation and expansion of have evolved over the years, for good or for bad, and many things weren't even his ideas.