TLT K-wing and tactician

By IG88E, in X-Wing

Why did the tactician k-wings give away two stress during worlds? I thought you can fire just at one enemy with both shots, so you declare your target once. Does it work differently than R3-A2?

R3-A2 says it triggers when you declare target. Tactician does not.

R3-A2 says it triggers when you declare target. Tactician does not.

Yes but then why the stresshog (Y-wing + TLT+ R3-A2) needs the droid with BTL-title to be able to make 2 stress in one round? Then you should get 3 stress in arc which is not the case here.

Tlt only declares target once. So you get one stress from the primary shot, one fromcthe tlt

R3-A2 says it triggers when you declare target. Tactician does not.

Yes but then why the stresshog (Y-wing + TLT+ R3-A2) needs the droid with BTL-title to be able to make 2 stress in one round? Then you should get 3 stress in arc which is not the case here.

R3-A2 only gives stress when a target is declared. Tactician assigns the stress after performing an attack.

TLT only declares a target once so R3-A2 will only assign one stress from a TLT attack. The BTL-A4 title lets you declare a target for that attack so TLT+BTL-A4 results in two stress.

Previous to yesterday, Tactician triggered after each of attack from a TLT giving two stress per round. As of yesterday, TLT only gets to apply after attacking effects once both of its attacks have completed. Now TLT+Tactician only gives one stress.

That triple K-Wing with TLT+Tactician list took a rather sizable nerf with the most recent FAQ. I don't think that it would have made it as far as it did if the current rules were in place at the time.

R3A2 gives stress when you declare a target. Stresshogs declare a target on the primary attack (1), then declare a target on the TLT attack (2). You don't declare a target twice during a TLT attack because it has to be the same target.

Tactician triggered after an attack, and a TLT says perform this attack twice.

Yes but then why the stresshog (Y-wing + TLT+ R3-A2) needs the droid with BTL-title to be able to make 2 stress in one round? Then you should get 3 stress in arc which is not the case here.

That build did not give 3 stress before this FAQ, and does not give 3 stress now.

You did not declare target twice for TLT before this FAQ, and you do not now.

You asked why Tactician behaved differently at Worlds. It did so because it is a different card with a different trigger.

Ok thanks!

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Edited by Quarrel

So Tactician still works with K-wing/TLT? Since Tactician says that for each attack you get a stress. You still attack twice with the TLT, just not target twice with it. So I guess you can still get two stress from a TLT and Tactician.

So Tactician still works with K-wing/TLT? Since Tactician says that for each attack you get a stress. You still attack twice with the TLT, just not target twice with it. So I guess you can still get two stress from a TLT and Tactician.

Nope. TLT and Cluster Missile now only have a single window for after attacking/defending effects and it is after both attacks have completed. TLT+Tactician is a single stress token.

Yeah I just re-read something talking about that. Since the Tactician is triggered as an "after attack" effect, and the is in a window outside the two attacks for TLT. That sucks, but I guess it on makes R3-A2/BTL combo on the Stress-hog better. 1 Stress can be limiting, but 2 stress would be some much better on you target. I guess Ghost-Tactician-TLT can be a thing now!

Flatchet torpedoes and tactician still work just fine.

Yeah I just re-read something talking about that. Since the Tactician is triggered as an "after attack" effect, and the is in a window outside the two attacks for TLT. That sucks, but I guess it on makes R3-A2/BTL combo on the Stress-hog better. 1 Stress can be limiting, but 2 stress would be some much better on you target. I guess Ghost-Tactician-TLT can be a thing now!

Ghost, Tactician, TLT was a thing before. It is a worse thing now.

Flechette Cannon and Tactician will still also double stress.

Edited by WWHSD

Yeah I just re-read something talking about that. Since the Tactician is triggered as an "after attack" effect, and the is in a window outside the two attacks for TLT. That sucks, but I guess it on makes R3-A2/BTL combo on the Stress-hog better. 1 Stress can be limiting, but 2 stress would be some much better on you target. I guess Ghost-Tactician-TLT can be a thing now!

Ghost, Tactician, TLT was a thing before. It is a worse thing now.

Worse for stress, better for damage.

Which is why there are better options than Tactician now

Maybe they will removed the Limited from Tactician so people will still play them *sarcasms*