So Beefcake and I played out our first proxy war using all the cool new wave 4 info last night.

I took all the interdictor based stuff I could - Suppression refit, G8, target scrambler, and Konstantine in command on an ISD 2 with a tractor beam. I also had two gozanti cruiser flotillas and some expendable TIEs.

This faced off against Mon Karren, Yavaris, a decent rebel fighter force and three flotillas. We played fire lanes with me as first player...

Overall I was reasonably happy with the interdictor. Its definitely not a combat ship, doing basically nothing against Mon Kracken. Next game I will probably put Ion cannons or something on it to give it a bit better attack potential.

But the Konstantine/G8/Tractor combos I think had a good impact. Mon Karren could basically ignore them, but only by spamming Raymus boosted Nav commands. The flotillas basically had to spend the game naving to stay clear of my big ships and ended up with me clobbering two of them. I had something like 130 points in movement control "stuff". It wasn't decisive but then I don't think I used it to full potential - my ISD had to keep an eye on Yavaris and Mon Karren, all the while contesting the fire lanes tokens which restricted his ability to meet Mon karren head on. End result was a draw - I was ahead on tokens, flotillas and squadrons but lost the interdictor.

One thing I'd like some guidance on the G8

What is the order of application of G8 and Nav commands/tokens. We played it that I had to declare the G8 first. So if Mon Karren was going speed 3, I slowed it to 2, and then the rebels could then apply their nav command/token and plot their course at speed 2.

But should it be the other way around? Rebels apply all their commands, plot their course, and then I apply the G8? Would have made the interdictor far more of a threat.

One thing I'd like some guidance on the G8

What is the order of application of G8 and Nav commands/tokens. We played it that I had to declare the G8 first. So if Mon Karren was going speed 3, I slowed it to 2, and then the rebels could then apply their nav command/token and plot their course at speed 2.

But should it be the other way around? Rebels apply all their commands, plot their course, and then I apply the G8? Would have made the interdictor far more of a threat.

As per the Rules: If timing effects have the same timing, then first player must resolve all of their effects first.

IF the timing of these things are different... Then the timings are different and we just need to explore those timings... (I'll do so in a few minutes once I've paid for the pizza that I am told is on its way... Hooray Canada day!)

Done So!

G8s are First.

G8s are done "before the determine course step".

Navigate commands are resolved:

• M Navigate: Resolve during the “Determine Course” step of movement

Before is, of course, Before "During".

PIZZA First, then determine rules.

Done So!

G8s are First.

G8s are done "before the determine course step".

Navigate commands are resolved:

• M Navigate: Resolve during the “Determine Course” step of movement

Before is, of course, Before "During".

Ok. Thanks for the rules interpretation!

This is how we played it, but its definitely the weaker of the potential applications of the G8. I had my slicer tool gozanti but he was on the wrong side of the field to affect Mon Karren, and he had a couple of options to deal with the slicers anyway.

Still, I had a couple of turns with flotillas basically immobilised in my ISDs kill zone which was pretty satisfying.

G-8 says before a ship resolves determine course step, which means any point up until the tool gets locked in is a legal time to use it. Once the tool is locked in ship gets picked up, moved and DTC is resolved.

So I'd say it is back to shared timing. With player one having to resolve first.

But "Before" is defined in the rules, as before... Not, "Before it finishes". Its "right before it starts".