Blaster Turret the biggest victim of the U boat nerf

By X Wing Nut, in X-Wing

Kavil (or any other Y Wing) with Blaster Turret + R4 was fun while it lasted.

the card was finally playable now it goes to the back of the folder again

R.I.P Blaster Turret

actually, blaster turret is the biggest victim of blaster turret

Eh, I still like my Jan/Kyle gunboat for fun.

and nothing of value was lost

actually, blaster turret is the biggest victim of blaster turret

At least you can shoot at Dark Curse with it now...

Has been that way since TFA.

Playable is stretching it a tad- He was still second string to the second string options, frankly. Also, it's been pointed out that this interaction was technically killed by the rules updates from the TFA core set, but it slipped past everyone because it was so insignificant prior to Wave VIII.

Edit: Also, R4 Agromech+Dorsal Turret was superior to it in many cases (Basically, it's the Expose vs. Predator comparison again)

Edited by Squark

who the hell used blaster turret. If it didnt have the Focus thing on there it would STILL be pretty ass for 4pts. Dorsal Turret is literally the same thing w/o the focus and needs range1 for the same dice for 3pts and you RARELY see that.

dorsal turret, it's like blaster only far less **** :D

not great, mind, but you won't find a cheaper 3 die turret than kavil and you get to pal around with a more flexible r4 aggro trigger in which you actually get to use the focus to modify the attack :o

Edited by ficklegreendice

Can a corpse be a victim?

who the hell used blaster turret. If it didnt have the Focus thing on there it would STILL be pretty ass for 4pts. Dorsal Turret is literally the same thing w/o the focus and needs range1 for the same dice for 3pts and you RARELY see that.

Blaster Turret wouldn't be bad for 4 points if it didn't have the requirement to spend a focus.

Kavil (or any other Y Wing) with Blaster Turret + R4 was fun while it lasted.

the card was finally playable now it goes to the back of the folder again

R.I.P Blaster Turret

Still playable (and made the cut in several regionals) on a hwk. Hasn't really been realistically playable on a y-wing since wave 6 before we had TLT. And even then we had BTL ion...

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Blaster turret? Oh yeah, I remember that card. I might still have one left somewhere that I didn't use to wipe with.

Blaster turret? Oh yeah, I remember that card. I might still have one left somewhere that I didn't use to wipe with.

Why would you ever wipe with blaster turrets?

You need to focus to do that

Edited by ficklegreendice

Can a corpse be a victim?

That's lifeist that is.

I find it funny that people thing the R4-Agromech nerf was a coincidence. R4-Agromech was intended for Blaster Turrets on Y-wings. I had to pull this picture from an Article. (and yes I know FFG articles tend to get rules wrong but this rule was correct at the time)

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Now this isn't illegal it just won't work like putting EU on an A-wing, or Luke/Gunner on an Outrider.

Edited by Marinealver

Does it really matter? The game is better for it with the new timing windows. Should they keep the game down because of design decisions of the past?

At this point, they should just design a new 4 point turret. When they're actively removing buffs directed at a dud, it's time to admit it's truly obsolete.

Does it really matter? The game is better for it with the new timing windows. Should they keep the game down because of design decisions of the past?

Indeed but at a mechanics perspective IMHO it was the Crackshot FAQ was what made timing charts necessary. However the timing charts of the FAQ was used to nerf nuke R4-Agromech because of U-boats. Funny they didn't do that with TLT,I mean Stresshog got a little down too but they were already shoved out of the way by U-boats.

Blaster turret squad that was fun in a casual setting:

Manaroo, title

Kavil, blaster turret, Agromech

Palob, blaster turret, Dengar

All with Attanni Mindlink, so Kavil got 2 or 3 focus tokens, plus the target lock, on 4 dice (most of the time).

Palob got 2 focus, plus Dengar, on 3 dice. Manaroo had just a single focus.

It still works, but not as effectively since Kavil would have to spend a focus to fire at all, then use a focus on the initial dice roll, then get a target lock, then be able to reroll any blanks. He then couldn't spend a 3rd focus on any eyes after the re-roll.

It's not a top-tier list, but it was a lot of fun. Now, Kavil is probably better off with a dorsal turret (as everyone has been saying) and a different astromech. Unhinged, to get more greens, perhaps. Getting rid of stress (Mindlink!) was quite hard with only 2 greens, both straight.

However, Manaroo might now be worth doing a Target Lock action, and passing that along with the focus on to Kavil. Hmm.

Edited by Gilarius

Meh, Blaster Turret still works in it's favourite place.

i.e. a Moldy Crow HWK-290 with Recon Specialist. Like Palob.

Season liberally with Predator, or if you're rocking Cloaking Device/Stygium, maybe even Lone Wolf, for a hilariously expensive 5 health ship.

Does it really matter? The game is better for it with the new timing windows. Should they keep the game down because of design decisions of the past?

Indeed but at a mechanics perspective IMHO it was the Crackshot FAQ was what made timing charts necessary. However the timing charts of the FAQ was used to nerf nuke R4-Agromech because of U-boats. Funny they didn't do that with TLT,I mean Stresshog got a little down too but they were already shoved out of the way by U-boats.

The timing flow chart is unrelated to the R4 Agromech change. The Rules Reference Guide has had that same sequence for acquiring a target since December.

RRG, pg. 4:

" 1. Declare Target: The attacker may measure

range to any number of enemy ships and check
which enemy ships are inside his firing arc. Then
the attacker chooses one of his weapons to
attack with. Then he chooses one enemy ship to
be the target and pays any costs required for the
attack.
...
• After a valid weapon and target are chosen
and any indicated costs are paid, the target is
considered to be the defender."
By those rules R4 Agromech doesn't work with Deadeye. The only reason that it has worked for the last half year is because there was a FAQ entry for R4 Agromech that was contrary to the rules.

Blaster turret...

Now that's a word I haven't heard in a looong time