FAQ questions-blinded pilot and timings and focus

By Amos100288, in X-Wing

Hi,

I have two questions concerning the new FAQ.

1) Force awakens blinded pilot crit. The wording on my card is different from the one in the FAQ have they just made a mistake or has the wording changed? Mine says 'you can not perform attacks. After your next opportunity to attack (even if there was no target for an attack) flip this card facedown.' The one in the FAQ says not to roll any dice on your next attack.

The FAQ says: If a ship gets an opportunity to attack from a card effect (such as Dengar or Corran Horn), that ship can resolve one of those abilities and flips Blinded Pilot facedown. I interpret the wording has meaning Dengar can perform his attack and then resolve the card but I feel it should mean 'Dengar has an opportunity to attack and so he flips the card facedown without attacking.'

As I'm writing this I'm starting to feel a little clear on the principal.

Surely if ' 'Dengar has an opportunity to attack and so he flips the card facedown without attacking.' he technically hasn't used his ability and can use it next time he defends but if 'Dengar has an opportunity to attack, he activates his ability but rolls 0 die then he flips the card facedown he has resolved the attack but he has spent his ability for the round.

2) Part 9 on the timing chart says:

9. Abilities trigger that occur “after attacking” or “after defending” that perform an attack (such as BTL-A4 Y-wing, Dengar [ship], Gunner, etc.)

i. Resolve 1 ability of player with initiative

ii. If you did not resolve an ability in step (i) resolve 1 ability of other player

So...If Han in the falcon with Luke as crew attacks Dengar and misses...

Would Luke only activate if Han has initiative?

If Han did have initiative and used Luke to trigger a second attack can Dengar not use his ability after the Luke attack?

3) Focus, evade, and target lock tokens cannot be spent for their normal effect more than once during the "Modify Attack Dice" and "Modify Defense Dice" steps.

How could you have the opportunity spend 2 focus tokens more than once in at attack/defence anyway?

Blinded Pilot is the the FAQ twice. Once for the original version and once for the TFA version. The TFA Blinded Pilot is in the right hand column of page 7.

Blinded Pilot is the the FAQ twice. Once for the original version and once for the TFA version. The TFA Blinded Pilot is in the right hand column of page 7.

Yes but they use the same image in both entries, so I wonder have they made a mistake and printed the original version twice. Or are they changing the wording of the force awakens version back to the original version.

1) What that means is that Corran or Dengar can opt to trigger their ability and then instead of using that attack, they may clear Blinded Pilot instead. It still counts as using their ability, they just don't get to actually attack with it or trigger anything from attacking.

2) Luke and Dengar's ability will both trigger and be resolved . Whoever has initiative resolves their attack first.

3) Previously, the wording of the rules permitted using the default Target Lock, Evade, and Focus multiple times during the modify dice steps. You could use Target Locks and Focus tokens to modify 0 dice as well. This FAQ stops that. However if you have a ship with Recon Specialist and Calculation, you can still spend one Focus to change an eyeball into a crit and a second token to change all the rest of your eyeballs into hits.

Blinded Pilot is the the FAQ twice. Once for the original version and once for the TFA version. The TFA Blinded Pilot is in the right hand column of page 7.

Yes but they use the same image in both entries, so I wonder have they made a mistake and printed the original version twice. Or are they changing the wording of the force awakens version back to the original version.

I'm sure it is just the wrong image, as the FAQ descriptions still describe the text on the TFA card.

So...If Han in the falcon with Luke as crew attacks Dengar and misses...

Would Luke only activate if Han has initiative?

If Han did have initiative and used Luke to trigger a second attack can Dengar not use his ability after the Luke attack?

This is a good question, my assumption is it would work like this:

If Han has initiative:

Gunner triggers, then after second attack, Dengar triggers.

If Dengar has initiative:

Dengar triggers, then after Dengards attack, Gunner resolves.

If Dengar having initiative suddenly interrupts the gunner attack, I would wager this goes against what they were trying to do with the update. But I could be wrong.

3) Focus, evade, and target lock tokens cannot be spent for their normal effect more than once during the "Modify Attack Dice" and "Modify Defense Dice" steps.

How could you have the opportunity spend 2 focus tokens more than once in at attack/defence anyway?

Recon Spec + R4 Agromech makes this possible. If I roll focus blank hit, I can't focus to get TL, reroll the blank to a focus, then focus again.

Blinded Pilot is the the FAQ twice. Once for the original version and once for the TFA version. The TFA Blinded Pilot is in the right hand column of page 7.

Yes but they use the same image in both entries, so I wonder have they made a mistake and printed the original version twice. Or are they changing the wording of the force awakens version back to the original version.

Somebody screwed up and used the wrong image. If they were making a change to the card it would be in the errata section instead.

Blinded Pilot is the the FAQ twice. Once for the original version and once for the TFA version. The TFA Blinded Pilot is in the right hand column of page 7.

Yes but they use the same image in both entries, so I wonder have they made a mistake and printed the original version twice. Or are they changing the wording of the force awakens version back to the original version.

I'm sure it is just the wrong image, as the FAQ descriptions still describe the text on the TFA card.

So...If Han in the falcon with Luke as crew attacks Dengar and misses...

Would Luke only activate if Han has initiative?

If Han did have initiative and used Luke to trigger a second attack can Dengar not use his ability after the Luke attack?

This is a good question, my assumption is it would work like this:

If Han has initiative:

Gunner triggers, then after second attack, Dengar triggers.

If Dengar has initiative:

Dengar triggers, then after Dengards attack, Gunner resolves.

If Dengar having initiative suddenly interrupts the gunner attack, I would wager this goes against what they were trying to do with the update. But I could be wrong.

3) Focus, evade, and target lock tokens cannot be spent for their normal effect more than once during the "Modify Attack Dice" and "Modify Defense Dice" steps.

How could you have the opportunity spend 2 focus tokens more than once in at attack/defence anyway?

Recon Spec + R4 Agromech makes this possible. If I roll focus blank hit, I can't focus to get TL, reroll the blank to a focus, then focus again.

Re reading it I think the Luke Dengar interaction is starting to make sense

When you get to step 9 i) Han with initative acivates Luke and goes back to step 1 when Han reaches step 9 again he have no abilities left to trigger and so goes to ii) and Dengar activates.

Although I agree it can't be the intention that Luke is negated by Dengar when he has initiative I can't see how this works in practice. Luke says after you perform an attack you may immediately perform a second attack. Surely if Dengar is allowed to use his ability first the opportunity to use Luke will be lost.

Also what if Han attacks Dengar and misses then chooses to use Luke to attack Bossk? Does Dengar still get a chance to use his ability?

Blinded Pilot is the the FAQ twice. Once for the original version and once for the TFA version. The TFA Blinded Pilot is in the right hand column of page 7.

Yes but they use the same image in both entries, so I wonder have they made a mistake and printed the original version twice. Or are they changing the wording of the force awakens version back to the original version.

I'm sure it is just the wrong image, as the FAQ descriptions still describe the text on the TFA card.

So...If Han in the falcon with Luke as crew attacks Dengar and misses...

Would Luke only activate if Han has initiative?

If Han did have initiative and used Luke to trigger a second attack can Dengar not use his ability after the Luke attack?

This is a good question, my assumption is it would work like this:

If Han has initiative:

Gunner triggers, then after second attack, Dengar triggers.

If Dengar has initiative:

Dengar triggers, then after Dengards attack, Gunner resolves.

If Dengar having initiative suddenly interrupts the gunner attack, I would wager this goes against what they were trying to do with the update. But I could be wrong.

3) Focus, evade, and target lock tokens cannot be spent for their normal effect more than once during the "Modify Attack Dice" and "Modify Defense Dice" steps.

How could you have the opportunity spend 2 focus tokens more than once in at attack/defence anyway?

Recon Spec + R4 Agromech makes this possible. If I roll focus blank hit, I can't focus to get TL, reroll the blank to a focus, then focus again.

Re reading it I think the Luke Dengar interaction is starting to make sense

When you get to step 9 i) Han with initative acivates Luke and goes back to step 1 when Han reaches step 9 again he have no abilities left to trigger and so goes to ii) and Dengar activates.

Although I agree it can't be the intention that Luke is negated by Dengar when he has initiative I can't see how this works in practice. Luke says after you perform an attack you may immediately perform a second attack. Surely if Dengar is allowed to use his ability first the opportunity to use Luke will be lost.

Also what if Han attacks Dengar and misses then chooses to use Luke to attack Bossk? Does Dengar still get a chance to use his ability?

Forget that the word immediately is there. It has no real meaning in X-Wing and only tends to confuse things. X-Wing has nested effects. Once you start resolving something, you resolve all of the resulting triggers before you go back to another effect that shared the same timing.

It doesn't matter what Han decides to do with Luke, Dengar still gets to counter attack.

Edited by WWHSD