Soontir Nerf?

By Firespray-32, in X-Wing

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And to token stacking in general.

No that's literally how it always was

Stacked focus is redundant on the same roll and Soontir can't stack evades anyway

Ok, then. Lando nerf.

If anything, it's a nerf to things like Lando crew, Jan Ors crew and the true meta threat of Laetin Ashera.

Ok, then. Lando nerf.

Oh hell no, nobody puts Billy Dee in the corner.

I wonder if this also means you can't spend two stress tokens on Rage Keyan... since you're spending a stress token during attacking. It doesn't specifically call that out.

Edit: is this the nerf to r4 aggromech and Overclocked R4 jumpmasters?

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Ok, then. Lando nerf.

Oh hell no, nobody puts Billy Dee in the corner.

Wasn't my idea. If you get 2 evade tokens from him, you can't use them both on the same attack anymore.

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I wonder if this also means you can't spend two stress tokens on Rage Keyan... since you're spending a stress token during attacking. It doesn't specifically call that out.

Edit: is this the nerf to r4 aggromech and Overclocked R4 jumpmasters?

You can't spend two stress anyway.

Ok, then. Lando nerf.

Oh hell no, nobody puts Billy Dee in the corner.

Wasn't my idea. If you get 2 evade tokens from him, you can't use them both on the same attack anymore.

don't worry, green dice would never cooperate anyway

Thats mainly clarifying the double evade token shenanigans. It doesnt do anything for focus since focus either has a unique effect or affects all dice anyway.

It doesnt stop him from using focus in the same way on multiple die rolls. I.e. if he Focus actions, stressed for another Focus assigned to him, he can and always could focus on both attack and defend or 2x defend.

Though...there is something to be thought of here. Attacks that attack twice are now considered 1 attack. If he double focused he could only focus 1 set of dice thrown at him and not the other. Oo.. that sucks lol

I wonder if this also means you can't spend two stress tokens on Rage Keyan... since you're spending a stress token during attacking. It doesn't specifically call that out.

Edit: is this the nerf to r4 aggromech and Overclocked R4 jumpmasters?

The R4 Agromech nerf is the change to "When Attacking." You can't pair it with Deadeye anymore. Overclocked R4s are unaffected.

Keyan's ability was clarified last faq that he cant do it more than once per attack. Afaik there isnt any double-hits he can take that isnt an utter waste of time but i think he can still do that.

I'd have to read this more closely when im not at work lol. The whole "two attacks count as one" impression i get also hurts token use offensively as well as defensively if it works the way i think it does.

This is an exciting FAQ because it means we are going to be stacking evades on otherwise-vulnerable ships at some future date. Gives them design space.

There was one time using 2 focus on an attack could be useful: soend focus to convert eyeballs, get tl from r4 agromech, reroll any blanks, spend another focus to change new eyeballs. Not common, but was possible before. Not anymore

This is an exciting FAQ because it means we are going to be stacking evades on otherwise-vulnerable ships at some future date. Gives them design space.

Already had em. Anything with lando could stack. Laetin incthe scyk, anything eith and evade action + jan effect and ptl (ptl jan ezra soecifically)

Oh yeah that makes Lando even less appealing lol. His only real draw was possible 2 evades on a ship that usually cant get'm at all and REALLY needs them.

Done it lol. And loved it. Cant anymore :(

Perhaps pre-emptively done for the Fangs. They jump into range 1 with all their shiny mods and epts and get 2-3 evades or something

****, now using Lando on the VCX with Experimental Interface and Kyle Katarn just became less appealing (not that I was planning on rolling 2 evade results anyway).

I haven't read the FAQ yet, but a couple of the changes, when combined, seem to indicate that you can only use focus once when using a TLT?

Oh yeah that makes Lando even less appealing lol. His only real draw was possible 2 evades on a ship that usually cant get'm at all and REALLY needs them.

Done it lol. And loved it. Cant anymore :(

Oh yeah that makes Lando even less appealing lol. His only real draw was possible 2 evades on a ship that usually cant get'm at all and REALLY needs them.

Done it lol. And loved it. Cant anymore :(

I roll blanks with him all the time.

He does tend to nap.

Perhaps pre-emptively done for the Fangs. They jump into range 1 with all their shiny mods and epts and get 2-3 evades or something

The fang has no evade action and the title doesnt give an evade token, just adds an evade result

There was one time using 2 focus on an attack could be useful: soend focus to convert eyeballs, get tl from r4 agromech, reroll any blanks, spend another focus to change new eyeballs. Not common, but was possible before. Not anymore

If you read the last sentence, this is still allowed. If you spend a focus to use an ability that converts a blank to a focus result, there's nothing stopping you from then using another focus for its inherent ability to change a focus result to a hit result. Besides, using a focus twice for its inherent function would be pointless since burning a focus converts all focus results to a hit.

Your example is very similar to the example they give using Calculation, which clears up their language about not being able to use a token twice to modify your dice results. I think the rule logic is that the focus token powers the ability, such as calculation, and then the ability modifies the dice, not the token. That leaves you free to use a token to change and focus rolls to hits/evades.

If you couldn't do that, what would be the point of an ability that changed blank results to focus results anyway?

I haven't read the FAQ yet, but a couple of the changes, when combined, seem to indicate that you can only use focus once when using a TLT?

You can still focus both attacks from TLT or Cluster Missiles. The change stops you from using more than one token for its normal effect in each "Modify Attack Dice" or "Modify Defense Dice" step. Since each of the two attacks has separate modify dice windows, you'll be able to use a focus in each of them.

So Ndru fires a cluster missile...... do they STILL both get an extra die, or does only ONE of them get an extra die?