Interdictor Title and Phylon Tractor Beams

By Madaghmire, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

Phylon Tractor Beams state that when you activate, you may exhaust this card to enable its effect.

Interdictor states then when a ship activates, it may exhaust interdictor to ready one other upgrade attached to this ship.

Since both occur when you activate a ship, the timing is left to the player. But could that player exhaust phylons, exhaust interdictor to ready phylons again, and then exhaust phylons a second time in that activation, or is it precluded from doing so by some nuance I'm overlooking?

Help me Drasgnighta-wan Kenobi.

No. Because "When" allows you to do it once, and not again for that same application of the trigger...

So, at best . You could Activate - Trigger Phylon. Trigger Interdictor, Reset Phylon.... But you can't re-Trigger Phylon as you can only do it once during that Activation.

Obligatory Rules Quote Addition Edit:

RRG, Page 5, "Effect Use and Timing."

• A “when” effect occurs at the moment that the specified event occurs and cannot occur again for that instance of the event.

Edited by Drasnighta

Plus I'm pretty sure the Interdictor title triggers on ENEMY ship activation.

Plus I'm pretty sure the Interdictor title triggers on ENEMY ship activation.

Unfortunately, it doesn't :D

The wording is "When a Ship......"

Not an Enemy Ship.

Not a friendly Ship.

Just a ship.

Edited by Drasnighta

Huh, my bad then. I could've sworn it was enemy ship. You've already given the correct answer, sorry for cluttering up the response.

Huh, my bad then. I could've sworn it was enemy ship.

I thought the same thing right off the bat, too... :D But it makes it stupidly flexible that way... Not a surprise it was the one and only title.

Ah thanks Dras. I thought that only applied to "while" but then I was also pretty sure that something was wrong with what I was thinking of trying. Seemed a little too dirty for people to not have already been calling it out.

It applies to all of them.. Its just the definition of when exactly it happens...

While is anytime

When is right at the start

Before is right before when

After is, of course after...

But they all have the same clause of "And not again..." to stop those Non-tapping Cards from just being used over and over until you're happy...

@Dras: Man, I have to say you are going to be very busy for a while, there are so many new cards that work into very strange and hard to recall rules.

Keep up the good work.

It applies to all of them.. Its just the definition of when exactly it happens...

While is anytime

When is right at the start

Before is right before when

After is, of course after...

But they all have the same clause of "And not again..." to stop those Non-tapping Cards from just being used over and over until you're happy...

That Sunshine Avatar has Nothing to do with the Real Dras :P

It applies to all of them.. Its just the definition of when exactly it happens...

While is anytime

When is right at the start

Before is right before when

After is, of course after...

But they all have the same clause of "And not again..." to stop those Non-tapping Cards from just being used over and over until you're happy...

wow a hold your Horses this is an Imposter!!!

That Sunshine Avatar has Nothing to do with the Real Dras :P

It doesn't?

A giant goddamn Nuclear Deathball ...

Slowly, inevitably, stripping you of everything that maintains you. Slowly sapping your very essence from your very flesh and soul... There is no escape, for as much as you despise it, you and everything you love requires it, and thus, is killed by it...

Sounds like me to me, anyway.

It doesn't?

A giant goddamn Nuclear Deathball ...

Slowly, inevitably, stripping you of everything that maintains you. Slowly sapping your very essence from your very flesh and soul... There is no escape, for as much as you despise it, you and everything you love requires it, and thus, is killed by it...

Sounds like me to me, anyway.

It doesn't?

A giant goddamn Nuclear Deathball ...

Slowly, inevitably, stripping you of everything that maintains you. Slowly sapping your very essence from your very flesh and soul... There is no escape, for as much as you despise it, you and everything you love requires it, and thus, is killed by it...

Sounds like me to me, anyway.

Except that a nuclear deathball is the reason life exists so...

Plus I'm pretty sure the Interdictor title triggers on ENEMY ship activation.

Unfortunately, it doesn't :D

The wording is "When a Ship......"

Not an Enemy Ship.

Not a friendly Ship.

Just a ship.

So just so I am understanding this right, the card says "when a ship activates." surely that means any ship? not just friendly? don't all other cards state friendly some place in the wording?

Plus I'm pretty sure the Interdictor title triggers on ENEMY ship activation.

Unfortunately, it doesn't :D

The wording is "When a Ship......"

Not an Enemy Ship.

Not a friendly Ship.

Just a ship.

So just so I am understanding this right, the card says "when a ship activates." surely that means any ship? not just friendly? don't all other cards state friendly some place in the wording?

That's what I'm saying.

It can trigger when a Friendly Ship activates

It can trigger when an Enemy Ship activates.

The only requirement is that it is a Ship ...

And it has to do it the moment that a Ship activates. it cannot wait until that ship is shooting at it... The moment the ship activates, then it can trigger it... So you could potentially be psyched out into doing it...

Plus I'm pretty sure the Interdictor title triggers on ENEMY ship activation.

Unfortunately, it doesn't :D

The wording is "When a Ship......"

Not an Enemy Ship.

Not a friendly Ship.

Just a ship.

So just so I am understanding this right, the card says "when a ship activates." surely that means any ship? not just friendly? don't all other cards state friendly some place in the wording?

That's what I'm saying.

It can trigger when a Friendly Ship activates

It can trigger when an Enemy Ship activates.

The only requirement is that it is a Ship ...

And it has to do it the moment that a Ship activates. it cannot wait until that ship is shooting at it... The moment the ship activates, then it can trigger it... So you could potentially be psyched out into doing it...

Ah, I am with you, could make the temp reduce speed upgrade hit 2 ships a turn with this title then.

But , looking for correction or not, you can only "ready 1 other upgrade card equipped to this ship" so you can only ready other upgrade cards on the Interdictor ship, THIS SHIP, correct? you can't ready an upgrade card on another of your ships.

But , looking for correction or not, you can only "ready 1 other upgrade card equipped to this ship" so you can only ready other upgrade cards on the Interdictor ship, THIS SHIP, correct? you can't ready an upgrade card on another of your ships.

Correct.

Any Ship May Activate. That ship may be a Friendly Ship, An Enemy Ship, or even the Interdictor itself... The requirement is, it must be a Ship, and you must choose to do it when the ship starts its activation - You can't wait to see if its going to shoot at you before doing so.

When you do decide to trigger Interdictor, then one of Interdictors upgrade Cards can go from Exhausted to Ready.

This is going to - at least start - with the Targeting Scrambler doubling its use - and thus, usefulness in a single turn... However, I am sure there is about a zillion combinations that this will start to enable as well....

Also note, that in doing so, you Exhaust the Interdictor title, and of course, as it is Exhausted, you cannot Exhaust it a second time to refresh the title when another ship activates.

And that Enemy MS-1 Ion Cannons will be your bane.

Thread retitled "Ask a Dras"