So you hear people everywhere complaining that Dwarves are to strong, Dwarves got too much support, etc.

Dwarves got 3 big boxes and part of a cycle. That's a lot.

But Noldor, oh that's fine. They are okay. No problem there. I want MORE Noldor! etc. etc.

Noldor was the primary trait in Dwarrowdelf, despite the fact that it was suppossed to be the dwarf cycle. Four heroes!

Noldor was the primary trait in Angmar, despite the fact that it was suppossed to be the Dunedain cycle.

Now they get a big box and a whole cycle to themselves.

And yet nobody complains? Let's see some support for Gondor, Rohan, and Silvan. Maybe some Hobbits?

Personally, I'm glad that they are developing the Noldor trait more. It seemed that Spirit Glorfindel was becoming a little underpowered and needed some new toys to boost his viability.

Personally, I'm glad that they are developing the Noldor trait more. It seemed that Spirit Glorfindel was becoming a little underpowered and needed some new toys to boost his viability.

I hope that is sarcasm.

Erm ... have you bought the APs of this cycle? (AP not deluxe box). They have nearly no Noldor and lots of Gondor, Dale and Rohan ... some Silvan also.

But even if things where as you write, why does it bother you so? Noldor is a major faction in story of middle earth and it was underdeveloped till recently. As a Tolkien fun this really makes me happy

Just to put some numbers around it. We're half-way through this cycle and there are four cards that focus on Noldor. Meanwhile, there have been 4 Gondor, 2 Dwarf, 3 Rohan, 2 Dale, 2 Hobbit, 6 warrior, and 6 scout cards. On top of that there are no Noldor heroes in this cycle and no spoiled card in the last three APs with the Noldor trait. That seems to me like an extremely balanced spread of trait development.

Now, the Grey Havens deluxe expansion, I'll absolutely agree that it has a dominating Noldor theme.

Noldor's only just now fleshed out as a distinct archetype. Noldor heroes and characters were available before, but the evolving focus on factions in this game lacked a coherent Noldor faction until late in the Angmar cycle.

Anyway, it's not like we need to solicit more complaints from people. We have plenty of that.

Noldor were not the main theme of Dwarrowdelf. Heroes do not an archetype make, not by themselves. The most consistent theme running through the Dwarrowdelf player cards was Secrecy.

Noldor got some nice things in 2/6 APs in Angmar Awakened. They were some very nice things admittedly, but not enough to outweigh the amount of Dunedain, and in general that cycle was just very well distributed between a lot of different things. Grey Havens was a Noldor box, but as I recall the news articles described it as being pretty much the capstone on the Noldor development from Angmar Awakened, and that lines up with what we've seen since - not much extra Noldor.

This cycle is giving boosts to all the other traits you mentioned. Also since you brought up the Dwarf comparison, while I don't have numbers on other card types, I'll mention that Dwarves still have the most heroes in the game - but by the end of the current cycle Gondor will have caught up with them. Will you then start calling "Down with Gondor!" ? Or will you accept it's a good thing that all the traits are getting some love?

Anyway, it's not like we need to solicit more complaints from people. We have plenty of that.

But they could have developed the Woodman trait more! There is only one Woodman card this cycle!

People like elves more than dwarves. I think it's fairly safe to say that, in general that is of course.

People like elves more than dwarves. I think it's fairly safe to say that, in general that is of course.

I like Silvan, but not Noldor more than dwarves.

Its just a fun post guys, not really meant to be serious. Just an over-the-top way of saying that I want some non-Noldor stuff.

Yeah and when will they be fleshing out their oft-promised "Beekeeper" sub theme?!?!

I personally don't see an unfair influx of Noldor, especially this cycle (first pack was Gondor-Noldor, but all the others are very mixed). This is supposed to be the diversity cycle I guess, if anything Gondor seems the most pushed by the announcements. And then we'll see a new silvan hero and silvan allies and attachments in the next pack (as a lover of the classic Celeborn Galadriel Haldir deck, I wonder if Aragalad might be cool to try instead of Haldir).

In any case, I do hope they veer a bit from these themes and get to artifacts lol.

Or Beornings.

Its just a fun post guys, not really meant to be serious. Just an over-the-top way of saying that I want some non-Noldor stuff.

You mean like what we're getting throughout this cycle?

Or Beornings.

I'm still waiting for more cards with the "Encounter" keyword. Obviously, we don't want too many, and end up flooding the encounter deck with beneficial cards, but seeing as how they made an entire keyword with rules, I figured there'd be at least a couple more follow-ups. Maybe have a counterpart to the Ranger of the North, where instead of wanting him to show up as soon as possible, you want him to stay in the deck and be a shadow card?

I'm thinking give him the same stats as RotN and the same "take control when he appears" function, except instead of doing damage or progress, he would have a shadow effect. Something along the lines of:

Shadow: Attacking enemy has either -2 {attack} or -2{defense} until the end of the round. Then, the first player chooses a player to take control of this card.

BTW, Kakita, love the mon! ...Even if it is for the Crane...

(Just kidding, we love our honorable, dueling brethren.)

As I always say when the Encounter keyword comes up, I think it'd be the perfect way to make Bombadil and Goldberry as player cards, if they wanted to.

As I always say when the Encounter keyword comes up, I think it'd be the perfect way to make Bombadil and Goldberry as player cards, if they wanted to.

Good point. The fact that the only Encounter keyword card is also Dunedain doesn't necessarily mean the two keywords have to be tied together! Why, we could even have an Encounter Nol- <glances at topic title>

...oh...nevermind.

Encounter Beornings. Get on it, FFG. =)

Personally, i think Rohan needs some more support, though theres probably gonna be more in the Flame of the West Saga though. I feel like Voice of Isengard is more based around Doomed and Saruman. idk maybe thats just me

Encounter Beornings. Get on it, FFG. =)

Considering Beorn pretty much acted independently from Bilbo's group (hunting wargs to verify their story and shadowing them to ensure the ponies were ok), I could actually see that working out, thematically.

Dale needs more support. Like actual support. A dale/Erebor cycle would be so awesome!

Cursed elves, every time a developer sneezes a new elven sub-race is born.

But I'm feeling a bit Noldor fatigue to be honest, but I'm not much that excited about the archetype gameplay-wise. I would gladly trade Noldor development for more support for the Encounter and Doomed keywords. Those are sorely lacking.

I say we get a cycle where every player card is Rohan. I want to hear people complaining about them being over-developed.

It's a co-op game, it's not like GoT where over-development of one House is bad for competition. Who cares? Don't want Noldor, don't buy Noldor.

Its just a fun post guys, not really meant to be serious. Just an over-the-top way of saying that I want some non-Noldor stuff.

We have gotten pretty much everything but Noldor stuff in the current cycle, I think the only new card was the healer.....

Also I disagree heartily with your statement to begin with and actually really want more Noldor cards. More that you can play from your graveyard and more that have nothing to do with the discard mechanic but have their own strong abilities.