First off: Why can't we users create polls as in most other forums?

Simple question:

Do you mark/write down your damage deck choice on your tournament list?

I ask because its rather senseless but still written in the rules. However i wasn't aware of that fact until recently. So i wondered how many players are aware of this and what you think should be the consequences when you fail to do that and a player notices the "faulty list" when starting a game.

Since you can pick which deck you'll use, I think yes you should mark which deck you're using. Same way you mark which set of obstacles you use.

If someone swaps out decks for some reason, I'd consider that grounds for a warning from the TO.

For the Systems Open series you had to preregister with your list of pilots/upgrades, choice of obstacles, and choice of damage-deck.

Yes if the tournament requires it, but some smaller ones I've been to don't bother. It's not like I'd want to change which deck I'm using between games anyway, so meh.

It's not like I'd want to change which deck I'm using between games anyway, so meh.

Honestly why would you? I mean if you pick a deck that works better for your list, why would you want to change it? It's not like you'd look at the other guys list and think 'oh this damage deck is bad against that type of list'...

Yes. Why wouldn't I?

I actually entered a regional where I was not asked to mark which damage deck I was using. After the 4th round, I counted my damage deck, and I was short a card. My opponent and I looked everywhere for the card and I couldn't locate it. I ended up borrowing a deck from another player I was friends with, but he noted to me it was a different deck than what I had been using. Initially, I was fine with it, but when it came down to it, I felt a bit scummy about it, and before the next round started, I bought a new core set so I could use the same damage deck throughout the event. Not fun to pay $40 for a damage deck, but hey, I guess I don't mind another copy of wired and weapons guidance.

Yes. Why wouldn't I?

if you would read you wouldn've already found two reasons in my OP.

Another is that not even FFGs official lists have a spot for doing that, another that the most popular squad builders remind you on obstacles but don't do the same for the damage deck, another is that the rule got changed at a point and it wasn't required before that...

If my opponent forgets or just doesn't care to mark it. I'll call the to over and say his list is incomplete and should forfeit. Oh well. I win.

If my opponent forgets or just doesn't care to mark it. I'll call the to over and say his list is incomplete and should forfeit. Oh well. I win.

I don't know if thats a joke, but someones behaviour similar to this played a big role for me poste this question (i was not involved directly).

I hadn't thought about doing that. I only run the new damage deck so it's never been an issue.

If my opponent forgets or just doesn't care to mark it. I'll call the to over and say his list is incomplete and should forfeit. Oh well. I win.

I don't know if thats a joke, but someones behaviour similar to this played a big role for me poste this question (i was not involved directly).

If my opponent forgets or just doesn't care to mark it. I'll call the to over and say his list is incomplete and should forfeit. Oh well. I win.

I don't know if thats a joke, but someones behaviour similar to this played a big role for me poste this question (i was not involved directly).

of course it's a joke. Sorry you went through something like that with some dillhole.

As i said i wasn't personally affected by it. However it concerned me that apperently ppl try to use every rule just for the sake of it to get some advantage in a tournament...

In the interest of complying with tournament rules and etiquette, I'd say yes, you should provide a complete list of all optional materials you'll be using. Will most people care? Probably not. I've only been to one tournament, but I didn't see a single person try to verify if their opponents obstacles or damage decks matched their lists. For that matter, I didn't see anyone trying to confirm anything matched the lists... I saw people playing good games, enjoying themselves. There's sure to be the occasional Sith stirrer who'll make a big deal out of these details, so it's best to be prepared, but generally I don't think it's something you should run into often.

At Lothal a friend of mine was forced to forfeit a game, because she had not marked her asteroids. Sure, the opponent was technically absolute right and the Open being a premiere tourney warrants special care and discipline. Yet, I am extremely disgusted by this player's behaviour and WAAC-mentality. Actually he has called the TO over the previous three rounds as well as players had not listed their damage decks.

Technically he is completely right, yet I would refuse handshake, greeting and post-match "GG" if I had to play this person.

At Lothal a friend of mine was forced to forfeit a game, because she had not marked her asteroids. Sure, the opponent was technically absolute right and the Open being a premiere tourney warrants special care and discipline. Yet, I am extremely disgusted by this player's behaviour and WAAC-mentality. Actually he has called the TO over the previous three rounds as well as players had not listed their damage decks.

Technically he is completely right, yet I would refuse handshake, greeting and post-match "GG" if I had to play this person.

I basically I agree to your feelings, and I would probably also think the same, although not really act on it.

But seriously? We are saying that people who follow the rules, written to be followed, are in the wrong when they point it out? I agree if it is the way they do it, we can dislike their attitude but I defenitely cannot say that despite multiple times the TO said this, and the information before the tournament said the same (as well as when registering), how can people not follow this?

Talking about the Lothal I was there, so I know roughly how the tournament was held.

Archie

At the regionals I went to they had a sheet of paper we had to write our list on and circle quick asteroids/debris and what deck. Not hard to do.

In what circumstances would you prefer to use the old deck over the new deck?

At Lothal a friend of mine was forced to forfeit a game, because she had not marked her asteroids. Sure, the opponent was technically absolute right and the Open being a premiere tourney warrants special care and discipline. Yet, I am extremely disgusted by this player's behaviour and WAAC-mentality. Actually he has called the TO over the previous three rounds as well as players had not listed their damage decks.

Technically he is completely right, yet I would refuse handshake, greeting and post-match "GG" if I had to play this person.

I basically I agree to your feelings, and I would probably also think the same, although not really act on it.

But seriously? We are saying that people who follow the rules, written to be followed, are in the wrong when they point it out? I agree if it is the way they do it, we can dislike their attitude but I defenitely cannot say that despite multiple times the TO said this, and the information before the tournament said the same (as well as when registering), how can people not follow this?

Talking about the Lothal I was there, so I know roughly how the tournament was held.

Archie

Pointing it out? Sure! Ill say thanks to him! Winning a game over it? Destroys about everything most ppl come to play for and invest their time and money. We are all human, mistakes happen, some rules are not as commonly known as others. Some rules are cleary more important than other.

Is it important to force important rules? Of course it is. How ever it is at least as important to have a nice playing culture at the tables, after all it should be fun.

What is more fun? Playing vs a nice player that forgot to write down a mostly useless information on a sheet of paper, or NOT playing vs someone at all because of him trying to use rules to his advantage out of game?

Unsporting Conduct

Players are expected to behave in a mature and considerate manner, and to

play within the rules and not abuse them .

In what circumstances would you prefer to use the old deck over the new deck?

Yes of course. It's on the squad list forms I use.

I follow all the rules and use the official sheets for squadron lists.

Formal events that I organize, I require all components to be listed that can be selected (ships, upgrades, damage deck, obstacles). Then I check the top tables (if you're cheating and still losing, I don't care, you're not worth my hassle).

In what circumstances would you prefer to use the old deck over the new deck?

If you are using generic pilots without a lot of upgrades or ordnance the old deck is better, minor explosion instead of Major explosion and munitions failsafe and the discard pilot abilities/EPT text cards are pretty good in that case

Do you mark/write down your damage deck choice on your tournament list?